Maybe some of you'll remember me from a few posts over the last couple of years. I've been promoting affiliate offers through paid traffic for some time now and am fairly successful.
I've upped my game since the last time I posted here. I've been working hard coding an automated ad-optimisation platform which identifies unprofitable placements to blacklist and profitable placements to increase bids 24/7. I've also implemented sneaky code in my landing pages because I noticed so many other affiliate marketers have been ripping my pages and using them for their own ads. Long story short, if my landing page realises its not being hosted on my domains, it will replace their links with mine 5-10% of the time. Serves 'em right.
I'm still focusing primarily on push notification ads and offers with around $25-$50 payout per conversion. This COVID drama has actually increased my ROI and I've noticed that ad prices are generally cheaper due to a lot of big companies pulling their advertising budgets to cut costs. There's been a big increase in popularity for offers involving streaming, online games, antivirus, make-money-online, etc.
Anyone else here do paid ads for affiliate marketing? I don't know many people who do it and those who do try it, give up when they are down $500. It's not easy and it's not a guaranteed money maker. You have to be prepared to lose money so you look at the data and identify profitable placements. I think of it as buying data.
Currently it's 10am here and I'm sitting at ~$1530 AUD (~$1000 USD) profit with 120% ROI on the day so far. Pic related.
Were you in the thread with that german guy who scammed a bunch of people in january? Fuckin legend. Is this the business where you send calls to local businesses?
Jason Harris
You mean to tell me there are people that are >a) not running adblock >b) actually click ads, and >c) not bots designed to inflate your revenue with fake clicks all at the same time?
Jaxon Watson
yes user. Old people exist
Jacob Gray
Nah I don't think so. I'm not a huge fan of scammers desu. I think the last time I made a thread about affiliate marketing was September last year?
>Is this the business where you send calls to local businesses? Nah I don't do that. I promote offers which pay me when someone clicks through to the offer and enters their email, makes a purchase, subscribes, downloads, etc. I find good offers and then make landing pages. I tend to focus on offers that pay $25+ which are generally purchases/credit-card submits.
>of course there are however push notification ads are not blocked by any ad-blockers. To a lesser extent Native ads/FB/IG as well. >you'd be surprised how many people not just click ads, but regularly purchase products/services from ads. >this is a big problem. I have various scripts and algorithms running on my landing pages to identify placements full of bots. For example, I put hidden href tags on my sites which are invisible to people but automated ad-clickers will click them. If I see a placement with 20%+ bot visits, I'll blacklist it.
For c) I forgot to ad that push notification traffic is almost entirely free from bots.
Asher Phillips
Good stuff user. Also doing push traffic, also using that script as well, but hide it in the js. my states from yesterday. doing cpl, crypto, cc sub and nutra
forgot to ask, I hope you're collect subs as well to do your own send outs ;)
Daniel Collins
Nice one mate. Crypto and nutra work on push for you? I've only had success in those verticals through native. Guessing you promote those offers in LATAM geos/geos with low CPC? Yeah I hide it and obfuscate it along with an essential function so if they remove it, the LP won't work.
Of course my man! Got a database of about 500k at the moment. Good going bro.
Zachary Morales
haha you guessed right. With crypto on push its a volume game. but paying such low cpc makes it worth it. Last year Nordics did well on push and native.
Nutra works well on the subs we collect through sweeps. (I haven't added that data to thr tracker or the upsells - so right now addtional $300-380ish). Obv trials run better on push.
So many ways to monetize push traffic and also kinda nice to see a lot of newbs leave after losing a tiny bit of $$ making cpcs even lower
Jace Morgan
how do i get started on something like this? I've been able to generate traffic before I just don't know what to do with it.
My main GEOs are FR, BE, CA, UK, AU and NZ. Occasionally run in LATAM and a few other GEOs too. Nordics were a goldmine for crypto in 2017. I used to run crypto there through FB and native. >kinda nice to see a lot of newbs leave after losing a tiny bit of $$ making cpcs even lower Haha agreed. I'd say it takes a certain type of person to push through the inevitable losses and turn analyze the data logically to turn it green. I started with mobile pops some years ago and was lucky enough to secure some direct advertiser deals along with paying on a CPA basis through some traffic source partnerships. I transitioned to push when they were first introduced a couple weeks after Chrome implemented push. At that time you could promote literally anything and see 500, 800, even 1000% ROI. Of course it's harder now but this corona virus pushing down costs is very helpful. After spending over $700k on push ads last year and now having most of my optimisation fully automated I have a good system in place.
Do you have a team of media buyers or just solo? I'm flying solo but have considered hiring people a few times and always decided against it because I find it hard to let myself trust anyone and feel it would be a hassle to get them up to speed with my operations.
btw: have you ever dealt with the advertiser "Winlotsofthings"? They used to be one of my go-to advertisers for cc-submits but the last couple months I have noticed blatant shaving from them at a ridiculous level and have now boycott them.
Isaac Ortiz
You can join STM or there are a couple of slack and Telegram groups as well and you can learn from. But starting it isn't too hard, but making 1-5k a day is a steeper learning curve.
Jace Thomas
Awesome bro! My main geos are: US, FR, DE, AU, BE, LU and now LATAM (CL, MX and CO). I have a business partner, a guy I've known for a while and start push traffic with. Prior to that we both did native, pop when things were good and easy. But I only have employees for our ecom side of things. With paid push traffic I do the media buying myself and my business partner does some but mostly does biz dev and tech related things.
winlotsofthings is Static, they used to be amazing last year with AT, CH and AU cc subs. Gone down hill since. I know them personally, they are working to get new processors for credit cards so new mids, due to the pandemic might take a bit. If you want to run high converting CC's I suggest Adcenter, Total Access and also Credit Support which is in-house cc offers from gotzha. We can connect after and i can intro you to the people to talk to.
Brody Smith
You can buy my "super special one-time-offer 100% guaranteed profit masterclass webinar dropshipping affiliate marketing bitcoin digital-nomad financial independence make a million dollars while in an induced coma" course for only 1600 hourly payments of $5! I'll be giving away all my secrets but hurry because this offer will be gone in 10 years.
Jokes aside check out affiliatefix forum (free) or STM (paid). Plenty of free resources out there. I recently got an email from my ad-tracker, Voluum, saying they have free webinars for noobs. Idk if it's any good, it will probably gloss over the basics briefly and then try to sell you on their tracker (which is a good product, but still). voluum(.)com/webinars. Never ever buy any of those fucking courses. If any of those guys were successful in affiliate marketing or dropshipping then there is absolutely no reason they would be selling a course, that's what I don't understand about that shit. There's pretty much no amount of money that I would sell a tell-all course/personal coaching for. I don't like dealing with people which is one of the reasons I chose an internet-based solo pursuit in the first place.
Easton Morris
where are you getting these $0.02 clicks from that is converting that well for $25 payouts?
Brayden Jones
what do i do with a 500k email subscribe list of people interested in cryptocurrency?
Elijah Moore
WTF 500k?!?! If you dont care for them, hit up media500 tell them you have 500k subs and make bank. They will do the funnels for you and all. Unless your subs are Americans, then ignore everything I just said.
Gabriel Cooper
send them to me
Caleb Hughes
You can easily once you start optimizing. I pay about .025 for US traffic and the main offers I run pay $38 + upsell. Takes time but you can def do it. Hell you can do on zeropark right now, bid .01 and you will get traffic, Maybe not the best quailty but you can get traffic.
Nicholas White
That's good you have a partner you can trust. It would be handy to spread the load a bit I'd imagine.
Oh cool, so you run with Gotzha too? I've run a lot of Credit Support and Total Access offers through them, they're pretty solid. Another favourite is G33k. And yeah I heard winlots were having issues with their MIDs but it just sounded like excuses to me, I wasn't happy.
Were you at AWA in December? I went to the Gotzha party at that bar with the secret entrance through the photo-booth lol. They're a nice group of Dutch guys.
Anyway, you got a skype or email or something? Happy to connect and chat.
I'll take em off your hands if you want, we can do a revshare? I have a complete bulletproof SMTP email server setup capable of sending 80k+ emails/day. Happy to discuss.
Asher Gutierrez
so do you have like a website where you run ads and get money or
Levi Thompson
>I'll take em off your hands if you want, we can do a revshare? I have a complete bulletproof SMTP email server setup capable of sending 80k+ emails/day. Happy to discuss. Additionally I have a number of high-payout crypto offers and custom landers on hand so your only responsibility would be providing the emails and I'll do the rest.
Kinda. I have many landing pages (usually a good looking, simple HTML site) which "warms" up the incoming traffic from ad-clicks and then sends them on to the actual offer through an affiliate link.
Luis Brown
me no understand anything in this thread. explain to grug in cavespeak
Yup run with them. One of the owners of the company (fabi) I have been good friends with for a while. I used to live in the netherlands myself so we kind of all know each other from different networks/advertisers. Yea G33k offers aren't too bad. But do check out adcenter offers I wasn't at the Gotzha party since i had other plans but was there for a most of the other ones. Yea shoot me an email: pushtraffic@ protonmail.com then ill add you to skype .
Cameron Green
Ah yes I know Fabi, nice guy - had a good chat with him during the conference. Stijn is my AM and I was originally introduced by Sasa my AM from United Gap.
Sent you an email through proton. Sender: d*v***s**x @ protonmail(.)com
Parker Bell
Keep in mind that my stats include some revenue/clicks redirected to me from people who ripped my landers and other $0 cost revenue & clicks from my personal push subscribers.
Justin Brooks
How to replicate your success?
Logan Gomez
Would push traffic to e-commerce do well? How much time do you put into this? Could I do it on the side?
Alexander Turner
I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around this. People don't run adblock. People actually see and then click ads? Ads on websites? People actually click them? And moreover, a push notification with a fucking ad pops up on your screen, and instead of deleting the program responsible, you click the fucking ad? People really do this?
