Anyone here legit worried what will happen with stock market and economy ? no bull or bear shit...

anyone here legit worried what will happen with stock market and economy ? no bull or bear shit, this things either hits ATH or the economy collapses

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it will fall apart, give it a few months

the markets are playing out EXACTLY as during any of the downturns since the beginning of time - steep panic drop, government action, dead cat bounce, complacency stage and finally an unstoppable drop to unfathomable lows that will make the initital drop look like a fart in a hurricane

what i do know for sure that after this, poor will get poorer and rich get richer,

Trump and the fed are not letting that happen. There is no financial crisis here. We are dealing with a flu and its temporary. When the vaccine is announced get ready for DOW 40,000 with all that free money being pumped in and zero rates. SHit will boom like never before. All bears and shorties will get fucked HARD.

No not really, did everyone completely forget what a stock even is? It's shares in a company the value of which is reflected yes by earnings and dividends but mostly these days it's measures by public opinion on how well they will do in the future. This being said does anyone on this board legitimately believe that these companies like microsoft and amazon won't recover from this corona virus shit? If anything many companies are actually doing BETTER because it's just a change in how we do things.

Stocks will keep going up from here, the "crash" was just a collective of retarded boomers panic selling because they thought we were headed for another recession. It's literally and unironically priced in now for the simple fact that everyone's expecting it.

they are powerless - what are they going to do, print more money? Lower interest rates? Declare a war on the recession?

All their ammo has been spent over the last 10 years, now they are left with shooting blanks - lots of noise, but no effect

of course
the truly wealthy WANT crashes, it's just an opportunity to secure more capital for cheap and loosen worker regulations even more

YAY! More shares in companies that don't make money! It's an empire of dirt.

You mean to tell me that the wealthy want market crashes so they can buy more stocks on sale? If the market crashes, don't the wealthy also get hurt since their portfolios drop by a huge percentage?

they don't only buy shares, they buy land, real estate, shares and merge companies and industries, and yes the markets bounce back and they have an even bigger piece of the cake than before

Do wealthy people buy bonds?

>bounce back

lmfao

Inflation will inflate asset prices while the value of stocks decline. Only way to short the market is own bullion and crypto.

Did you forget what a market sentiment is? You would be correct if everyone was a perfectly rational robot, but no, everyone wants to cash in their profits, so even if you're not selling, a bunch of people do and the price drops, the early birds cash out while you are left with a half-priced stock. So how do you avoid that? You sell as well when you see the price fall, you buy puts to hedge your losses. Look at all the previous crashes, you think all those investors don't know what a stock is? Some don't but most know that market sentiment plays a huge role in the stock market is as well. Hell we wouldn't even have this covid crash either since "big companies like microsoft and amazon will recover and companies are doing BETTER"

>this things either hits ATH or the economy collapses
Checked. First one, then the other.

The moment Goldman and JP Morgan revised their forecasts to no longer say we would retest the lows, I knew we will have to at some point.

The Fed can't keep this up forever, you can build the biggest bucket in the world to bail out a sinking ship but if you don't actually fix the leaks, you're living on borrowed time.

understand the difference between riches and wealth at least /biz

We're knocking on the door of negative intrest rates lads.

just short the market.

not really

>Declare a war on the recession?
Please, don't give them any ideas

>print more money
They don’t even bother to do that, they just poof it into existence as numbers in an electronic ledger.

>legit worried what will happen with stock market and economy ?

Lol. I might sound edgy - but why the fuck would I worry about it? there are people paid insane money to worry about stuff like that

>you're living on borrowed time.
I’ve been hearing and reading about this for probably 15 years, and it was going on well before that. I watched a movie this weekend that was made in the early 70s and one of the characters was a survivalist who said stuff like “it’s all going down”.

So when?

The pro-collapse team got pretty lippy during the 2008 housing recession. Sun felt everyone in the web was a follower of Mises. But beyond some localized unemployment no serious harm was done and we QE’d our way out of that. Fast forward today and even in the middle of a pandemic, daily life is pretty damn great for most people.

I don't think literally everything is going to collapse, I just don't think that the Fed can indefinitely keep us from retesting the lows we saw in March before things begin to recover. Too much damage has been done by the shutdown for us to not go through a rough patch before Q3/Q4.

Also
1929
Nineteen-twenty-fuckin-nine.
As if modern economy is a copypaste of economy of a century ago.
I guess Hitler will soon come to power after this recession, cause thats what fuckin happened after the 1929 crash.

>he thought the market would move?
>Crab it.

>doomers and larpfags insist on comparing the United States in 2020 to 1929 Germany
>The US Dollar is just like the Reichsmark and the Zimbabwe Dollar!!!
Those people understand nothing. They're obsessed with the twink vegetarian warlord. The future isn't an exact repetition of the past, it merely rhymes with it. The world as it is now doesn't do conventional warfare. Why bother in the time of weaponized central banks, drone warfare, and "oops we accidentally let this viral outbreak spread to every corner of the globe!" ?

YES.

Preach it brother

The problem with this idea is that there isn't a real crisis. In a week or two, everything will be opened up again. People will start going back to work, and the economy will start to boom again. Everyone has been predicting a V shaped recovery from this. The only companies to go under, will be companies that were going under already, like gamestop. This whole event is like ripping off a bandaid. The powers that be have just immanentize the eschaton. We are already on the other side.

You're not gonna believe me, but we're going to war with China soon, or at the very least some sort of cold war. Normies will think that a big war will happen and this will further crash the markets.

You can see the programming happening right now. Anti-Chinese memes and news articles everywhere. Staged videos of chinks trying to spread corona and videos about them torturing animals (which is true to an extent, but overblown).

You're gonna think this is all bullshit, but just wait ;P

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Since Snowden leaked prism in 2013, China has ramped up corporate espionage 1000%. So much so that entire industries that are foreign to the Chinese are anticipating on them entering the market because with how much shit they've hacked they basically have everything