How do make it?

Ok you seem like an alright person. I would recommend python to start off with.

All systems. Society is a system that can be leveraged. Stock markets, job markets. There are systems abound with rules and expectations, smart people find weaknesses in those systems and exploit them for gain.

You're a millennial not a boomer

>30
>no work experience
its over. might as well have a felony on your criminal record

> what code should i learn?
Ohh shit. Okay. I always tell people trying to learn the same advice: Think of something you want to build and work towards that goal. Instead of starting with the tool, plan the idea and pick the best tool for the job. I mostly use Node.js / JavaScript, but it's pretty gay and mostly for faggots. I don't mind because JavaScript faggot talk pays six figures right now and is good to know anyway when using Chrome or websites and shit.

> what code should i learn?
Ohh shit. Okay. I always tell people trying to learn the same advice: Think of something you want to build and work towards that goal. Instead of starting with the tool, plan the idea and pick the best tool for the job. I mostly use Node.js / JavaScript, but it's pretty gay and mostly for faggots. I don't mind because JavaScript faggot talk pays six figures right now and is good to know anyway when using Chrome or websites and shit.

ooops double post

thanks
i did once start on a coding education but i dropped out because i hated school and i'm a b person.

Yes.

It is very possible.

I trade options and micro cap stocks and am up around 150k profit this last 6 months.

Takes a while to learn though.

>i did once start on a coding education but i dropped out because i hated school and i'm a b person.

fuck computer school it sucks anyway

github.com
khanacademy.org
w3schools.com/js/

Then you can probably ask some faggots over at /g/ or reddit.com/r/programming

>very high IQ

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I had ideas for websites in the past.
But also i'm intrigued with people who say they have a program that has models of stuff. fx stockmarket etc.
When you don't know code it all sounds like magic.

>How do make it?
You get surgery.

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Just give yourself a goal to work towards, it makes it way easier to learn when you're trying to accomplish something than just opening a book and learning things in a vacuum. For example make it a goal to connect to an exchange's API and store the price feed data on a local PSQL database.

you sound quite low iq fren

ok thanks.

How did u get started?

Do you make a profit buying options or do you primarily use sell strategies?

Do you trade of technical analysis or do you trade of more practical information?
I mean do you say "this product looks good, this business has a good plan" or do you trade on the financial numbers?

>tfw 32 about to be 33 and in the same spot

I want to die every fucking day

that's a man

>When you don't know code it all sounds like magic.
Yeah. 25 years into it and I still get the magic feeling every time I run the code. It's a huge and vast field. That's why I recommend people start with an attainable goal and work towards that so they can start in a more narrow part of the field.
You got this user. I can tell you have the right mentality for this and you seem sincere in your motivation. Good luck.

thanks. I will try coding.

get a gf

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dont bother learning to code its a waste of time. you run into problems and bumps which will take hours, days even weeks to resolve. For every 5 mins of actual progress you make you spend countless hours on stackoverflow trying to find out why commands arent working. The whole coding industry is a complete clusterfuck, absolutely full of bugs and errors which mutate with time. As soon as youve fixed one problem you run into another and its just the most timewasting shitty activity you can do.

the only people who make it with coding are the literal aspies who started learning iit n the womb. At 30 its too fuckin late.

You gotta think about why it happened but then also forgive yourself and move on. Part of my problem is i would be angry and bitter about things.

How did the first coders code then?

Counterpoint. I tried it 4 times to learn it. I even faked my way through a MSc in Comp Sci. Life feels such a waste when you spend half a day figuring out where you misplaced a ; over an ,

I am now work in consulting. Making up pointless powerpoints out of nothing and calling it strategic is much more fun.

> Counterpoint. I tried it 4 times to learn it.
Yeah, probably because you are a retard. It's totally cool though because there are plenty of retards out there living kick ass lives.

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You say trading its a losing game without even trying to figure that out. Yeah high IQ sure bud.

It's really fucking hard if you don't have a mentor cause you have to learn it all for you self.

But i'll give you the basic rundown. Basically you need to think what gives you a competitive advantage over others in different markets.

I primarily focus on two strategies. Micro cap swing trading (hold for between a week and a few months usually) or options trading bigger moves (hold for a few months).

For micro caps, they are very under researched and swing hard because of low liquidity (think if a big fund wants to buy/sell shares in a small company worth only 100mil) it will move big up / down. So you can get ahead of them if you do research and see movement. You can get in and out quickly, and don't have all the big bullshit overhead of a big fund. So micro caps are profitable.

The logics of being profitable in options trading are more complex and I would suggest reading books by Nassim Taleb to see if you would be interested in that.

A third possible strategy is day trading, I don't do this much but I know people make 200k+ a year from it. This is basically just focusing on larger stocks that are moving over a day or two due to a certain news catalyst or updated earnings. So you need to learn accounting and how market perceives updates etc. And just see how the market reacts. Have an opinion of a stock is a good or bad one. Control your emotions. Limit your losses. Takes a while to learn.

The key in all of these is LIMIT YOUR LOSSES TO A FRACTION OF YOUR GAINS. For example, if you are day trading and looking for a 3% move in the stock, you should limit your loss to get out at say -0.6% if your trade goes against you in the other direction. If you are trading an option strategy, make sure no matter the worst case outcome you can't lose more than 10% of your trading account etc.

Usually buying / net debit but I do a small amount of selling with limited loss strategies if IV is high.

>her
you failed the IQ test

You can do this my fren.

If you're smart and disciplined, start (day-)trading. The next months learning it will be an emotional hell, but as soon as you've found your edge, you're a free man with full bags.

I said i thought that because that's what i heard when i looked into it. Also when i was younger the people who would tell you to get into trading was almost all flim flam people trying to sell some investment strategy etc.

Personally i like the idea of researching companies etc and finding strenght weaknesses. Or fx trading news stories.
I heard of traders who made shorts before corona and i guess i would have done something simular if i was a trader.
but when i saw traders it seemed that they were all just bogged down in all kind of technical numbers and graphs and such.
Maybe it's a bit of both?

There are many ways to trade. I also know a very successful news-trader. But desu, all you really need is TA and money-management. I usually ignore news completely.

not a very high IQ if you have to ask those questions.
Very high IQ would have figured them out already.

>If you're smart and disciplined, start (day-)trading. The next months learning it will be an emotional hell, but as soon as you've found your edge, you're a free man with full bags.

Pretty much this advice is saying if you are good at gambling, start day-trading. Attaining long-term gambling success requires a very specific mentally. I don't have it at all. I do work on software for finance trading systems. Pretty much we only make trades that are guaranteed to have a profit immediately, or have a risk capped at a minimal amount of basis points. I'm most likely eating bad day traders tendies all day long.

Daytrading is indeed very hard, that's why I put it into brackets - but not impossible. I mostly trade the 15min chart and am doing fine. Trading of the daily though is very easy. I think I could teach that even my grandma in a few weeks or months.

You play poker at all?

Could explain a normal trade you might make and what goes into it?

No, I have never touched anything related to gambling in my life yet and also don't think it would make me as happy as trading does.

Coding ability doesn't depend on one's intellect. Its practice like drawing ,music ,instruments and new languages. Good coders make better code and better money. This 30 yr old could get coding skills quickly on the off chance that he is a prodigy.

>very high IQ
>he needs an advice from an anime board
I love you.

yooo why is (s)he taller than the fucking door frame what the fuckkkk

bitcoin go up and hopefully this is a man

It's not possible to go into details in a post here, but basicially all that I do is the following:
1. In the morning I look through my 12 handpicked markets, which are some majors, minors, futures and btc. in each asset I look going down from 1d-4h-1h-15min.
2. I draw some Trendlines, S/R when I see it, but not in the 15min chart.
3. As soon as there is a Setup evolving, like a breakout, trend-continuation, etc. in the higher timeframes, I look for a good entry in the 15min chart with a quite tight stop. This is hard to do and requires a proper amount of experience/screentime.
4. I ride the whole movement through, either in the 1h or sometimes also 4h chart, depending on the technicals. This results in some very good Profit ranging from 3:1 to 10:1 if I'm lucky.

Hope that summs it up somehow.

>Coding ability doesn't depend on one's intellect. Its practice like drawing ,music ,instruments and new languages.
Yes and no. Craftsmanship will get you a long way as a developer, but to reach the higher echelons of software engineers you do need significant computing power in your brain. I do agree with you about the practice part and prodigy part.

So you might trade a market going up without necessarily knowing why it goes up?

Work shit jobs, make yourself useful and carefully invest. I was like you at 29, completely broke too. Now I'm doing better than most. Just don't waste your money on crap and you're ahead of most debt cucks.

TA isn't magic, it just raises your chance of winning to 55-80%, so the word "know" is a bit wrong here. But if you mean by that, that I just look into the charts and completely ignore the news - yes that's correct.

THIS