Why are commies against paying rent? It seems pretty simple to me

Why are commies against paying rent? It seems pretty simple to me.

>Landlord owns a house
>Landlord rents it out to people in exchange for money
>Landlord pays to fix lighting, floors, anything that breaks

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Because of the labor theory of value, the landlord puts in no labor (doesn't build the house) so he produces no value. So the entire arrangement is theft.

But he worked his ass off to afford the house in the first place.

Laziness is a lifestyle choice with consequences.
You have to be accountable for your decisions in life.

You should not be able to own property you dont live in

many are just upset that so many midwits got into the RE market with massive leverage and drove up the cost of housing to the point where even people earning relatively high wages are priced out or have to buy an tremendously overvalued, illiquid asset in order to avoid paying the boomer tax.

the landlord is third party capitalism leech. making money and oppressing the poor. there is no such thing as a christian landlord, they are all spawns of satan worse than the tax collector themselves, because they are goyim trying to imitate the jew. bottom feeding niggers

According to the labor theory of value, your post has no value because you didn't put a lot of effort in it.

>he worked his ass off to afford the house in the first place.
chances are more likely he inherited it

I didnt make my smartphone. Therefore I dont own it.

ITT Lazy people who want free shit

The time to save up for the home and buy it is labor, the time to maintain the home, pay for its upkeep, handle tenant turnover duties, is labor, paying taxes on it is labor. It exists. Stop acting like these things don't exist. And the profit the landlord makes is usually marginal given these factors. Landlords don't start making big bank until they're up to 30+ doors.

what if I spend 10 years of time and lots of money building a house and then I can rent that out?

It's not Just the Commies you dumb ape, ADAM SMITH HIMSELF called out Landlords in his magnum opus.

>Landlords who own multiple properties across the country and live near none of them

The ultimate leech

Being a landlord takes more work than you might think. They're responsible for things like maintenance too. The renter can benefit from choosing to rent over owning.

>its not easy being a landlord, sometimes i have to spend your money on electricians

And?
Thats just life, life is unfair at times.
Why should you own it over someone else who has a blood rite to it?

oh look another landlord thread.... you commies really are 1 trick ponies with the same tired shit day in day out

They still pay property managers to take care of them, presumably.

An effort is subjective, but talking to pseudo-intellectual commies takes a lot of effort.

You don't. Ownership doesn't exist.
You didn't physically make the house so no value was created.
Then you can do it.

It's more than that.

>You didn't physically make the house so no value was created.

Do you know the logistics involved in planning a house and organising brain dead brick layers to do something?

>pay property managers to take care of them
>Do absolutely nothing else

Like I said, the ultimate leech

Effort is not subjective. Energy and effort is easily defined. See: Thermodynamics and fluid mechanics

I've never seen that physically happen so according to the labor theory of value that doesn't happen.

>the landlord puts in no labor
Actually landlords fix up the house and have to make sure after he's bought it everything works and it's safe to live in. Even if he did build the house you'd still have a problem.
Also, that's like saying people that own shops that sell lights can't sell said lights because they import them in bulk from Italy at a lower price. They didn't make the lights, they buy them, they sell them for some money and in exchange the person buying the lights is happy.

>So the entire arrangement is theft.
That's not the definition of theft. You living rent free in someone's house is technically theft, you paying to live in a house the landlord paid for isn't theft.

Some landlords live in their own houses. They buy a 4 bedroom and rent out 3 rooms. Also, this makes no sense. If a man gets married to a woman and they get divorced and want to split, you're saying the man can't buy her a house for her and their kids? He wouldn't live there but he'd own two houses.

>people earning relatively high wages are priced out
I can agree with some of what you're saying, but it depends on location too. LA and NY have very high housing prices while Alabama have low prices.

They created the demand which begot the construction you retard. If there weren't a steady supply of landlords looking to purchase properties, properties wouldn't get built. And we're usually talking about multiplexes, an entirely separate market from single family homes, so no this has hardly any bearing on the housing market for homeowners. You're a moron.

> And?
and in that case that isn’t a response to > Why should you own it
who are you quoting

>landlord owns a house

>Why are commies against paying rent?
Low income = Low IQ

Bottom line, commies are lazy people who want free shit.

Prove me wrong.

I can't

because in a free market, if there is one asset that you can work for that will generate abnormal returns, then everyone would simply do so

the system is completely fair, you can argue all you want that being a landlord and generating an income from charging people to use an asset that you worked for is parasitism, but anyone can do so, so people are therefore choosing to not be a landlord, why is that? a simple cost benefit analysis, either they don't want to work for it, they don't want to risk their capital, or they want things in the here and now

Do you see this hole capitalist? This hole took a lot of effort to make so a lot of value was created by making it. This is what landlords should be doing.

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>greatest buying opportunity of all time for those with small amounts of available capital right now
>literally the time when future millionaires get made and launchpad their ascent
>this board is full of fags that want to talk about their landlord all day

Wallstreetbets is unironically 3x better than this

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>chances are more likely he inherited it
Actually statistics prove you wrong. Also, statistically people that inherit wealth are in the 10-15 percentile.

Did you even read the thread?

>Ownership doesn't exist.
Ofcourse it does to you unless you're saying you're a hypocrite. You can't say landlords steal while ownership doesn't exist. That's a complete oxymoron.

You can't steal something if no one owns it.

>Ofcourse it does to you unless you're saying you're a hypocrite. You can't say landlords steal while ownership doesn't exist. That's a complete oxymoron.
>You can't steal something if no one owns it.

Labor exists. I own my labor but I don't own the things I make. it's very different. Can you explain why America oppresses africa? You can't. Landlords need to be lined up and shot.

Yes, that's where we stick the bodies of all of the commie/socialist bug people. In you go!

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Stats do say higher IQ correlates to higher income in the US

>Wallstreetbets is unironically 3x better than this
Then go back to r--eddit

>I can agree with some of what you're saying, but it depends on location too. LA and NY have very high housing prices while Alabama have low prices.

This was always the case. It's a bubble everywhere. Proximity to jobs always gets priced in.

Damn being a landlord has to be the comfiest job ever. Just sitting around being a modern feudal lord collecting your shillings all day

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>I own my labor
You just said ownership doesn't exist therefore by your logic you don't own your labour.

>Can you explain why America oppresses africa?
Money, Oil, Power, Natural Resources, Contracts that benefit both sides but probably mostly america, cheap labour, guns, etc

> You can't.
I can and just did.

>Landlords need to be lined up and shot.
You say this as if all landlords are billionaires or millionaires when there are middle class people that work 9-5s that own reasonably sized properties.

Listen, I am going to explain this only once. The only thing which exists is labor. Everything is labor. All atoms and molecules are tiny labors. We are all made of the same effort and value, this being labor. Capitalists have fabricated a false system where money and goods are produced to meet demand. this is WRONG. When we rise up the communist party will kill all capitalists. 100 million? 1 billion? We will kill them all until only people who agree with me remain. Ahahah It's going to be great. Capitalism was invented by jews (Judaism being the most capitalist religion) so All jews will be killed (This time it won't be wrong to do so because we are communists killing millions not fascists)

>Labor exists.

This is why people get paid so they can buy things they want. Its basic economics and the most efficient why to give people what they want.

>Landlord owns a house
That's funny. Why are they afraid of not making mortgage payments then? Surely there's nothing to fear... unless they were playing pretend with someone else's money.

>We will kill them all until only people who agree with me remain.

Typical lefty resorting to violence when they have been proven wrong intellectually since after all they are just dumb low iq grunts

It doesn't matter if it's efficient or meets people demands or lifts people out of poverty. What matters is if a single black woman can have 6 children and expand to 600 lbs

Pathetic wagecuck

does belle delphine produces any labor you fucking retarded faggot?
the labor theory of value is shit, it has been proven to be false and no serious economist uses it.

She produces erections which is labor since it causes the heart to work harder. This is value.

>likely he inherited it
so? what's the problem with inheritance?
I can't transfer the roots of my effort to my sons?
Why am I allowed to use my money on hookers and drugs but not on giving my offspring a better future?

Why are landlords so upset when they don't get their rent payments? It seems pretty simple to me
>Landlord gets a significant cut of worker's paycheck for owning the house the worker lives in
>If the worker gets laid off, the landlord gets no cut.
Why don't landlords understand risk?

then the landlord produces value by giving you the possibility to rent a place instead of buying it.
or by fixing and repairing the property.

>Why don't landlords understand risk?
they do, that's how they managed to get the property in the first place

>>If the worker gets laid off, the landlord gets no cut.
>Why don't landlords understand risk?
You're right, except landlords aren't allowed to evict people due to the virus, or are you purposefully ignoring the current situation.

I don't want to work.

Why don't tenants understand the contractual obligations of a lease?

landlords cannot evict tenants who adhere to their lease agreement

They believe that the government should own all property and that it is the government's responsibility to house all citizens in an equal manner.

>Actually statistics prove you wrong. Also, statistically people that inherit wealth are in the 10-15 percentile.
And what? You gonna pretend landlords aren’t in the top 10%? +50% of wealth in the US in inherited, so the stats prove you wrong. Actually.

Until they overspeculate on retail, create a bubble, and sign up for ridiculous mortgages that price out potential homebuyers and create insane floors on rent because they want to break even on a shrek shack that they took out $400,000 of the bank's money for.
The invisible hand doesn't work when parasites enter the game.

>You're correlating two different statistics. Some landlords are people that work 9-5 jobs and own reasonably sized properties.
You can work a 9-5 and be in the top 10% What are you talking about?
> Source
Has no relation to anything I said. My claim is about wealth and how it moves, every argument you stated so far is about wealthy people. Not the same thing.

they dont understand (or pretend not to understand) supply and demand.

Im working on it but someones ddosing it so I cant get you fellas a link.

But the bear market is a certainty as we've all come to the conclusion together on.

These top buyers will never understand this
'number go up, tenant pay' is the only thing they understand until the whole charade gets exposed

This btw, ignores the fact that the Kardashian sisters are considered “self made” because even though her parent are millionaires. They only borrowed a couple hundred thousand (and all of their parent’s connections) to make their money

the only sectors that are in a bubble are healthcare and education, primarily due to the governmental monopolies

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>Landlord pays to fix lighting, floors, anything that breaks
this doesnt happen

that might make markets unrecoverable .... fr. You cant make money in a dead market.