Goldcucks getting rekt

>physical holders
Have fun being liquid when you need third party to assay it and convert it into fiat

>fiat
>ever

>Converting to fiat
We just gonna act like I won't be bringing gold/silver to the closing table for real estate?

So what, you expect to buy loafs of bread with your gold bars or something?
Why even have gold/silver instead of actually owning the real estate?

They were warned in 2013, and told they would no longer be able to take delivery. Anyone who kept their 'Gold' at this bank after that deserves this.

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You don't lose in gold unless 1. you have gold in paper and not physical 2. You have serial numbers on your gold/the gov knows that you as the exact person, have gold in your home

Golden dawn incoming. Fiat cucks get raped.

you can buy on credit then, saying give me this amount of bread loaves in the future and take this gold/silver

Would apmex be good for investing in some physical gold? Does it come with serial numbers?

No you fucking retard, you use silver for groceries of course

Only PAPER goldcucks getting rekt, which they should. Goldcucks that actually hold the metal are comfy af

Explain?

With a custodian there is a risk that the gold does not even exist.
With physical gold, there is a risk that it is a fake, painted iron bar.

For the record, you can't falsify cryptocurrency.

If the dollar is still valuable, I have those to buy food, necessities, whatever

If the dollar goes to shit, then I'd imagine trading silver necessities. I'd use my gold to settle large transactions, like if I was buying property.

owning a piece of paper guaranteeing you gold is not owning gold, always remember if you dont hold it you dont own it

The Dutch are some of the biggest cucks on Earth. They trust authority figures to an absurd degree. It's no surprise that they're dumb enough to leave their gold in a bank. They deserve a complete ass-ravaging.

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tungsten bar

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Why would I convert it into fiat?

That makes sense, thanks user. But what's effectively happening here? Are people losing their ownership on paper?

or you could just check it by weighing it and checking its volume

(((they))) have printed a lot of papers promising gold they dont have guaranteeing that they have it in stock while they do not have enough for everyone, they have been scamming people into thinking they are secure but once again, if you dont hold it you do not own it.
TL;DR dont trust (((banks)))

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tungsten is very close to the density of gold

ik you're talking about gold, but as for PMs in general..

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very close does not cut it if the person selling/buying know what they are doing while checking the mass to volume ratio

How the fuck is that legal?

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You think you own the gold/silver in your house?
You think the place where you bought their gold/silver don't have your name on a list?
You think you and your handgun/rifle have a chance?

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You do realize that was voluntary? People willingly went to the bank to give up their gold for paper because they were ignorant of government intentions. The only time force was used to steal gold and silver was in fascist regimes like with Hitler, Mussolini and Castro.

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i dont live in burgerland buddy
they make the rules buddy

>huge fine in 1933 dollars or a decade in prison
what brain gymnastics do you need to perform to think it was voluntary?

post your self portraits on other boards

>implying it's not exactly the same everywhere

i live in a small country that have a much more unified people than amerimuttistan so the governmental bodies would probably get btfo for seizing the universal freedoms of our people

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I'm Dutch and I can confirm this. GEEN CENT MEER NAAR DE GRIEKEN XD LOL!!! Do you know Arno Wellens?

Gold is owned and manipulated by the very people the goldbugs hate. It's scary how peoplw will consent to yheir own slavery

If it's fake, can't I sue the shit out of the dealer?

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>hold to infinity
>time is of no issue
>exchangeability isn't too
One ounce of gold is one ounce of gold is one ounce of gold for all infinity while other people refuse to exchange it into the prevalent (and enforced) mode of transaction in the future.
All your gold dreams built upon the idea of a total collapse of society and the hopes and wishes that people somehow magically will accept it as a mode of transaction for necessities instead of barter.
As long as we're in a state discussing wether "gold is going up or gold is going down" it's all for naught since at that time gold is still being valued in something apart from itself, ie dollars of fiat currency. As long as gold isn't valued in grams of ounces of itself, goldbugs have won nothing and are holding nothing more than an fiat based investment vehicle.
Not that this is a bad thing since it's everything about gains in the fiat world.
But enact a reality check from time to time.
>inb4 time proves any of your rebuttals wrong
>inb4 faggot

Buy gold.

Buy silver.

SchiffGold.com

no, ABN Amro and their clients getting REKT

Gold could be owned and manipulated by you too if you had the means. :^)
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Found your passwords yet, Peter?

its just a hedge against hyper inflation, if the current fiat become worthless then atleast my rock has value until a new fiat comes along

>i live in a small country that have a much more unified people than amerimuttistan so the governmental bodies would probably get btfo for seizing the universal freedoms of our people
Nuh-uh. When all hell breaks loose "your government" has to do nothing more than to flip the switch on the electricity grid for only a few hours and you and your fellow countrymen will beg for mercy.
LIKE WE ALL WOULD
Get real. Everyting's fugd.

You will give it up voluntary as well ;)

have you never lived in a rural area? electricity is not essential to live and there are ways to connect with your locals, its called social interaction

You trust humans too much . Very naive

judging by the blurry sign in the background the image of him wasn't flipped horizontally. wouldn't it have made more sense to design that jacket so the stars were on the left when someone looks at the one wearing it?

So? You don't drop your gun if you're in a gunfight. Fiat is the real cuckbuck.

i dont know what to tell you man, but not all governments are super powermad, especially ones were the population is as small as in mine

>its just a hedge against hyper inflation
So gold is not gold but a transitory medium exchanged, valued against and again exchanged into some sort of fiat again. Basically a bet on fiat. Not that it's bad thing but far away from what goldbugs usually (falsly) claim they are doing.
>if the current fiat become worthless then atleast my rock has value until a new fiat comes along
That are many big IFs. What guarantees you that a hypothetical new fiat system - most likely all digital and highly monitored - will allow transaction and exchange as you desire. The point of a future fiat system is to enact more restriction and assess more control through it.
You might have to find someone who exchanges your gold into valuables under the table. Then gold will be valued by your trading partner and not by some fiat based market and there's a good chance it will be "buy you" way less than it would currently do in our fiat valued system since your trading partner is subject to the restrictions as well.
Goldbugs rarely think about these possibillities.

>have you never lived in a rural area?
No I have not, have you?
>electricity is not essential
I say it is 100%, I also say that you have never lived in a forced state without electricity over a prolonged period and you basically pull this "not essential" nonsense straight outta your arse as you type it on your electricity powered devices.
>and there are ways to connect with your locals
Sure. Too bad 95% of them would be dead 48+ hours into a blackout either from suicide or total ineptness to live without electricity.

>buying gold to convert it to fiat
ISHYGDDT

>There is no evidence, historical or contemporary, of a society in which barter is the main mode of exchange;[21] instead, non-monetary societies operated largely along the principles of gift economy and debt.[22][23]

if someone offered me service in a post-fiat collapse i would probably accept it as a payment same with silver and i think alot of other people would too
have you seriously never taken a break from electricity and just lived in like a rural area? i have a hard time believing this, but i still think all necessary things just for survival could withstand a prolonged duration without electricity and if you think otherwise why dont u give me some examples

>have you seriously never taken a break from electricity and just lived in like a rural area?
No, no one has. Not even you.
You didn't go camping innawoods without a flashlight or an electric lighter.
You didn't go surviving innawoods without any of your clothes basically butt naked with just a stick since anything you wear and carry has been manufactured with the aid of electricity.
M8, don't kid yourself. Without electricity we're all fucked.
Although it would be cool if it weren't so.

If the Jews try this again they’d get their heads on a pike

you do realize electricity is never gonna go away completely unless there is a nuclear war right? and maybe not even then. and the conversation was if we could survive without electricity for prolonged periods of time and of course you can do that

Hitler and Mussolini didn’t steal gold and silver and were not fascist. Back to plebbit you retard. I know people that lived through the war and all of them had large amounts of silver/gold. Some of it got melted because of fire bombing by the allied forces though. Evil Jew puppets they were