Deflation comming

Any debt, mortgage you have will land you on a street.

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Still following helicopter Ben policies. Any deflation wil be met with brrrrrrrr. That is the point.

What if I have a shit load of cash to service my debt for like 2 years without working?
I should be good until hyperinflation right?
Or do I literally need to buy more CKB like NOW.

this is great news, kick the printers into overdrive.

What’s ckb

People will still not spend ot quick enought. Some will try to save up. Tourist towns are collapsing due to virus, you can print all you want when no one is sitting home.

I've been thinking about this a lot recently. I've cash on hand to entirely pay off my mortgage, but I don't want to do so because it represents the entirety of my savings + money set aside for some home improvements and purchases for a baby which is on the way. I currently owe tracking at 0.22% + base rate which is 0.1% so the interest is very low, like £60 a month.

In these uncertain times I feel like it is better to hold the cash and continue to make almost minimum payments (I have no penalty for overpayments or early completion and 25 years on the mortgage still). Obv will adjust as needed should we see interest rates shoot up to control inflation, but I think deflation for a while yet with unemployment.

why would you wait if you know that the dollar is going to deflate?

bull. fucking. shit. we are printing 2.5x the money supply this month retard.

it is hard to quantify inflation number when money in circulation is difficult to be tracked where it is going.

general rule is, nobody buys shit = deflation. everybody has money = inflation.

Basically, the inflation numbers you usually hear about is what is calculated by the government - historical-looking. But if you are buying a financial asset, you want to estimate what inflation "will be" in the future. That's hard to calculate obviously

So like all things wall street, people let the market decide. One part of the market sells instruments that predicts inflation a certain number, the other another number. Let them trade with one another and see what consensus emerges

I think what will happen is stagflation.

Surely if deflation happened it would be like a 2% dip for quarter of a year

We’re probably still in a deflationary cycle, even with the printers going brrr. The money the Fed has printed hasn’t worked it’s way into the systems yet. Some people are fixing margin calls, some are deleveraging, the mortgage bond market is completely fucked still, and forex markets largely still have no availability of dollars. From what I gather it’s getting better than it was, but it’s still not there yet. Many people are still trying to get dollars also.

Keep in mind people are going to get even more scared in the coming weeks, some US hospitals already need to triage patients. Also weekly employment data comes out tomorrow and the monthly next week. This stimulus is going to come out and calm things for 1 second before shit hits the fan even more.

It's called inflationary depression. While all the debt that people had collapses, the government prints money and distributes evenly or to the poor, making things even worse.

Fiat would be BTFO if it went into stagflation. It would justify the gold standard in an instant and would serve as an argument for a monetary system overhaul.

If the currency deflates despite being printed wouldn't there be a point at which it balances out?

Fiat is already btfo user , buy bitcoin or gold asap i am not trolling.

The post 1971 fiat system does not use reserves like gold , it's reserves are taxes like income tax that go up the more they print but with the economies stopping the deficit will go to retarded levels for most countries , like 40% budget deficits from 2% in 2019.

Worse most central banks only have reserves in usd and the lunatics in the us gov have voted for 2 trillion in gibs + 800b QE from the fed , while the current monetary base is 3.2 trillion after 107 years of printing.

So the reserves in other central banks will lose half their fucking value at a time they will get 0 taxes.

Shit's over it's almost as if god was pushing us to evolve from that shit system or as if it was a controlled demolition.
Everything aligned to stop that crap.

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How many month until hiperinflation? I doubt most people can survive 5 years of deflation.

>Any debt, mortgage you have will be de valuated together with lower value of money today, that you have bin in debt 10 years ago.
so when you took a loan size of year income , in the future it will be like few month income money, isn't?

Why is deflation bad if everything is cheaper?

Your wage gets even cheaper and due to low volume trading margins are getting bigger, so you pay more for shopping with your smaller money. It also gets harder to get a job or not loose one you have.

Does the price of physical gold also fall during deflation?

It can be dificult to sell anything during deflation, so even if gold holds its price you can spend weeks looking for someone with cash.

What if I'm salary?

short market buy puts alter its that simple

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B-b-but muh 6 trillion hyperinflation!!!’n

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people wont spend if their cash just goes up in value over time

What the fuck are you smoking chief

If you're salary isn't cut (unlikely) or you work for commission you'll be winning easy.

But deflation won't happen because the fed has a license to print as much money as it wants - so hyperinflation is basically a given.

>the dollar is loosing strength against all currencies over the past week
>Trump bucks incoming - people still not working.
>fewer goods available as factories are shut down and supply chains break down.
how can you get deflation from this? how can the free money you get from the government buy more goods and services (which are obviously decreasing)..

dude they just printed 2 trillion directly into the pockets of people. they'll find the right pockets to fill with money to stop deflation, at least in areas they want it to stop.

hello fellow ozfag

Check global GDP last 2 days. It dropped 5% and markets dropped 10%...

numbers are numbers, they dont change.

hey brosef hows you?
Are you an eagles fan or more a maroons/blues guy?

In law is an eagles supporter. I'm a tigers supporter but recently been watching more bunnies games cause my mate made the first grade team as a prop. We tell him yeah good on ya but you play for a shit cunt team

im just learning this shit dude, ive been at it a week

what do I have to learn?

on the topic of economics though. Aus should be relatively ok. We got more of a social welfare scheme than the yank. Our economies tied to the chinks as well and they'll be booming this ride. So long as we contain the virus we'd be sweet. Still hate our scrotum of a PM

I think I understand. Will it work? Like I said, a week.

>Or are they hoarding it, killing all the volume and use cases?
That will make it's price go up tho, cause it's a scarse resource, and hoarding and it's scarce property it ll become even more rare for those who wants to buy, thus the price for it will go up.

You are not wrong

fellas, we're ahead of the curve, look at the cahrt in my picture- where it says short term is where buys are placed and we're exactly where I said we were. the difference is levereaged profit find me on australian investment network undder short global bubble and invest as fast as possible/ / . It has everything backed by numbers and graphs so everyone can properly understand it. It all checks out.
I just really really like
Money.

Thanks guys.

Good book to read is reminiscences of a stock operator. Its a good first read and once you're more knowledgeable in finance its a treasure trove. It's based on the first ever day trader.

Our stimulus package involves the 2 payments of $750. With the boosted cenno payments this should be able to bolster demand for a bit considering if you're out of work you're getting $1100 a fortnight.

You can definitely short the market cause it's only gonna get worse before it gets any better but you gotta know when to pull out. BBOZ is a good ETF that you can buy that shorts the ASX. If you wanna pull a big dick move and if you aint got a job, pull out the 10K from your super, profit and then re-contribute 10K back into your super cause you can claim it back on tax.

If you own property, hold on to it because of negative gearing you can claim back depreciation onto your tax return again.

Aus's tax system is such a cluster fuck that you can jump around heaps of loop holes

Hahaha this is as fun as I thought it'd be

anyone got questions?

this.
i dont know why, but Markus Krall said we would enter the rare case of stagflation and i trust Markus Krall, he is usually right (and much smarter than i am)

so its either deflation or hyper-inflation?
like we might be screwed by not having cash saved, or completely screwed by saving cash?
And no way to tell which one will happen?

retard

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>stagflatio
first mover advantage then bail nigga

Whos most likely to panic? Investors, retirees, bankers, brokers, fund managers, big money big dick shit etc, right? The people most affected by a virus that kills the elderly. Money- even stupid money- talks if we're talking about cash flow.

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if you think trump will let the chinks get away with that you are mistaken. He will blockade their ports before that happens

Holy fucking retard alert

the first firesale of indexed wall street banks was after trump killed old mate in the middle east. everything everybrations from that. graphs publically availible. trump also didnt pay $1 Trillion to the UN which means they cant get ahold of cash flow to lend to countries in economic trouble.

nigga wtf are u 12?

There's no lack of demand you fucking retard, just less supply. Stores are literally sold out. We're going to see prices go UP.

Yea so youre late, get in before shit goes down with shorts. Thats the answer.

Fuck, I love winner.