Possible real number of coronavirus deaths in China calculated

Due to the nature of Chinese telecoms, your national ID is bound to your mobile number account, which is in turn bound to your Alipay account, the one-stop mobile app that manages all monetary transactions, including banking.

If you lose it you lose access to Alipay, which is basically how the Chinese pay for everything from chewing gum to haircuts to groceries.

People don't just cancel their phone numbers because of that. Even if you change your mobile phone number it's a hassle in Mainland China because of that.

When phone number accounts are not paid for a certain period, or if some other actor (relatives? gov?) shut down your personal account related to the country's database, the mobile phone accounts are automatically cancelled.

Here we see a drastic drop in mobile accounts in all major Chinese telecoms. China Mobile alone reports a disappearance of 7 million and 254 thousand. The actual number of coronavirus deaths may be up to 14,472,000 if we take the three major telecoms in China.

Anons from the previous thread raised the issue of multiple SIMs owned by a single person. Whilst that may be the case for business or other reasons, it still doesn't explain the anomaly here.

All sources, including all previous years' data for comparison (2020 is the only time we see this massive drop):
chinamobileltd.com/en/ir/operation_m.php
chinaunicom.com.hk/en/ir/operating.php?type=monthly
chinatelecom-h.com/en/ir/kpi.php

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Other urls found in this thread:

chinamobileltd.com/en/ir/operation_m.php?year=2019&scroll2title=1
chinaunicom.com.hk/en/ir/operating.php?type=monthly
chinatelecom-h.com/en/ir/kpi.php
tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic-index/wuhan-traffic
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Here's China Unicom, reporting a disappearance of 1,186,000 accounts in January 2020.

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And here's China Telecom, reporting a disappearance of 5,600,000 in Feb 2020.

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Here's 2019 for China Mobile. As you can see, no dips at all.

All previous data can be found here:
chinamobileltd.com/en/ir/operation_m.php?year=2019&scroll2title=1

chinaunicom.com.hk/en/ir/operating.php?type=monthly

chinatelecom-h.com/en/ir/kpi.php

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This isn't conclusive, but it's certainly an anomaly. Could other data support this population drop hypothesis? (Electricity usage? Water? Etc.?)

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Have a (You) for your efforts user, seems you’ve done more work looking into this than anyone in the media. These slanty eyed bat eating insectoids ate definitely bullshitting the world with their numbers.

You don't need phone 4g if you're stuck at home with wifi and this will last from 6 months to a year. Why not cut the cost and drop the phone service. I already cancel my phone plans, netflix, amazon prime, etc to cut back costs. China numbers are definitely fake but no way 15 million died.

Can you focus your autism on determining if I should sell my Link or not?

Supposedly everything is back to normal in China though.

Maybe in certain regions but no way it's back to normal in regions that got hit hard. They have to worry about wave 2 of the virus if there's any.

Wouldn't make sense if all your banking is tied to your phone number like op claims. We need a gook to confirm.

Trying to determine "factual data" about China is next to impossible. It's mostly a waste of time.

People's phones could have been turned off to stop the spread of info, there could just be an issue with their data, etc etc etc

>kick out all western journos, including globalhomos like nyt
we're totally fine dudes

although, couldn't cancelled cell phone account just be brokeass chinks downsizing?

So I didn't feel like it was worth making my own thread for, but I've tried to do some snooping online & can't get a shred of info out of China. I don't want to pretend like I'm some 1337 hacker, but I do know how to find extremly privledged info via irc & tor. Obviously the validity of any info that I get from those sources is suspect, but what really concerns me is that I can't find anything. Not even disinfo. Nothing is leaking out of China, even pro China propaganda.

I went further & went on Chinese only onion based forums, some invite only. I'd scour the entire site with Google translate & there is not a peep. I then asked someone I know who is Chinese to help me set up a fake tinder profile to hopefully trick some simps into spilling the beans. Absolutely nothing.

I don't know what to conclude from this other than it is really bad there--really bad, and people are scared.

/thread

communist shut down everyones phone in most infected areas to stop spreading western panic

and we on the other hand have 24/7 news pumped out by every news vultures all around the world to get clicks with clickbaity titles

>meanwhile some chink is sewing my Nike ID's , got confirmation this week

in late feb some user posted a link that showed real-time traffic analysis from Garmin for Wuhan.
Can someone find this?
While not really related to 'deaths' it would show how shutdown is society still? When the user posted it, there was like a 98% reduction in traffic according to Garmin.

Can you look at December 2018 and January 2019 to see if they do an annual purge of numbers? Great work here

Bump, good research user

Based consoomer with the manufacturing data

Racist frog/anime website doing better investigative journalism than the mainstream media

bump, I hear some anons talk last month about massive # of bodies being burned in wuhan from weather/sat data

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as it should be user, as it should be

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guys this thread is spooking me, what about the cure they've been talking about using the drug that kills malaria?

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Wouldn't surprise me at all if they just killed all the infected. 14 million dead Chinese is like a drop in the ocean. Nobody would ever find out.

that's a last resort drug, it might cure it but it also might kill you in the process because the shit is so toxic

>thinking the deaths are from some virus
>not knowing they were cleansed like every other fucking dictatorship does

why do people not know anything about simple history

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It's a meme, Trump just let it slip that it's a complete Hail Mary.

Without doubt the dumbest fucking thread on Yas Forums right now and that's saying something

Ah yes, China must have thousands of times more deaths than all other affected countries and this is adequately evidenced by mobile phone contracts.

Just fuck off you stupid fucking retard, it obviously doesn't make any fucking sense but because you think you have a shred of evidence to support a completely illogical argument, you thought "hey, better not let this go to waste as I can get some attention from other idiots on the internet".

It's like wandering into some backstreet and witnessing some retarded bum pissing into the mouths of a dozen other retarded bums.

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Most cases of covid are mild. The side effects of these anti malaria drugs include shit like blindness, deafness, & seizures. Mild cases have a low death rate, so 95% of covid cases would be better off not taking it even if it does cure it 100% which is still only tentative based on studies with small samples.

One thing I dont understand is if they are still in a bad situation, why are they sending supplies to Europe?

You have to go back

You are doing absolutely based truthful journalism user, keep it up

The original number of people who fled Wuhan was 9 million. They were then labelled as enemies of the state, with bounties, numberplate tracking and phone tracking used to reel them in.

That's the only thing I can think of at the moment.

>Total customers 1 million

What? Our top mobile carrier has 5 million or so.

Millions have died in China, but that doesn't mean their government is in a bad situation.

oh hi China!

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Is fake news trying to hype the stupids so they stop crashing the markets

>China must have thousands of times more deaths than all other affected countries
It's probably fake but why can't it be real? It's the biggest country, it started there, they had been covering it up for weeks and eventually there was an unexplained decline in cases

>why are they sending supplies to Europe?
they don't need them if they just let their own people die. its part of their propaganda to show europe how great china is compared to the us as an ally

It's not very far fetched at all considering it's China we're talking about. You know the same China that slaughters thousands of student protesters and then pretends it didn't happen at all and you'll go to prison if you talk about it. Is it not even slightly suspicious that the reported cases in China just came to nearly a complete halt as soon as it started exploding in other countries so people weren't paying as close attention to them anymore?

It works, but it has a good chance to make you blind, deaf and cause a heart attack. It's a drug you take when you know you will die anyway.

Oh i get it, it's in thousands lol, i'm too drunk for this.

You're a fucking nutcase. No country would be able to hide 100k dead bodies let alone 14.5m, especially when the entire world was watching it.

Here's a far simpler explanation - phone bills are one of the first expenses people would cut in these types of crises when their workplaces shut down and they lose almost all their income.

Verizon stocks are down right now because Americans are doing the same. This will only intensify as millions of Americans file for unemployment next week.

fucking retarded. if 15 million died, someone would have noticed. there are hundreds of thousands of expats living there. thousands of foreign journalists.

Except the Chinese use their phones for everything. You can't just not use your phone over there

fucking hapooning disinfo agent. chloroquine is so benign its used as a prophylactic by tourists against malaria.

That and the most obvious explanation - chink government started shutting of services to individuals who were leaking out info, messages etc that shouldn't be.

Feeling nervous moonboi?

The CCP is pretty good at keeping shit under wraps. 15 million dead chinks is a drop in the ocean.

>bullshit numbers
What about the Diamond Princess?

>muh diamond pwincess
Most of those cases are still ongoing

Bump

15 million is only 1 in 100 chinks, and even if it's 1.5 million or a few hundred thousand that's way way higher than what they're reporting

American settlers gave smallpox infected blankets to Native Americans. Who has the means to screen literally millions of paper products from China right now?

don't know about garmin but here's tomtom
tomtom.com/en_gb/traffic-index/wuhan-traffic

Wait until this whole thing passes and see what % of those numbers goes back up.

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>poor workers sent home for a month
>have money to pay all the bills

necc, first thing they drop are cell phones for children stuck at the house and later their wives phones as they have to move to a family phone.

Fear mongering faggots can't think through anything like a human because they are sub-human.

>900m line to the mass graves

>muh inhuman bugpeople
There's no reason to blame the poor sods living in a totalitarian hellhole for their weird antisocial behavior. Human beings aren't designed to develop into functional adults when they know that they're being surveyed, judged, measured at all times by an entity they aren't allowed to question and that has absolute power over their lives.

Screencapping a ton of this thread, I want to see you do the same and reposting it so we can see if it's true in a month or so

Chinks are insects though, death numbers are meaningless compared to one white person

Sure, if China wanted to get a purge going this would be the time to do it.

Absolutely the best thread on Yas Forums right now, peak internet detective.

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lmao. it always cracks me up when I see moronic anons post shit from jennifer zeng or china uncensored and think its some underground fringe info. both outfits are glowie as fuck; not saying that the chinese can always be believed either but if you take what people like jennifer zeng say without a grain of salt then youre just unwittingly whoring yourself out to glowie psyops

Good bread, makes me wonder why on /pol you can't find a thread like this.

It's Pol

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It's posted on Yas Forums first
At the very least this didn't come from that twitter whore specifically, pretty sure it started on some HK forum first. Besides that, you can check the info yourself for this one. No trusting anyone necessary, just that the reasoning/interpretation behind the data may be different

Sharing extra information some HK user posted

"From what I read in HK forum, the chink mobile subscription work like this:
Every subscriber has a stored-value card which they need to transfer money in it, the telecom company will deduct the subscription fee every month, if you didn't have enough money they'll cut your subscription and chinks usually wouldn't store a lot of money in their cards, but rather transfer money on a monthly basis.
It is possible for a single to have multiple subscriptions, but since your number is bound your real identity it is not common for your average guy to have multiple numbers, also it is important to have a subscription since china has pushed the electronic wallet (alipay) very hard, you basically must have an number in order to use alipay"