Been pondering business cycle theory lately, could somebody give me input on this
Seems to me that in order to press interest rates below their natural rate, only a constant percent increase in credit is necessary, which means that a moderate manipulation of stock prices should potentially be permanent and not lead to either hyperinflation or a recession (e.g. a permanent 1% per year increase in total moneys, suppressing interest rates by 0.5%)
Other than Fed incompetence, then, what systematic forces are at play actually causing booms and busts instead of simply a continuous, slow theft of our assets?
Is it the Fed reacting to any small downturn with a sharp and temporary cut of rates? Or is it simply that Fed monetary policy funnels itself primarily into meme fad stocks and is used politically rather than economically (which would lower the general expected rate of profit in the economy vis-a-vis the interest rate)?
Couldn't the Fed just orchestrate things so that stable businesses could operate at lower levels of interest permanently, funded by our liquidated labours?
>Seems to me that in order to press interest rates below their natural rate Your promise is off. The Fed moved on rates because the markets told them to; it's the tail that wags the dog.
Aaron Barnes
I want to buy more puts on open but I don't want to get fucked by some bullshit pump I'm so conflicted.
On the plus side, when the economy collapses and worldwide economic output craters, Greta and the environmental gang will finally get what they want. AND you'll have cheap fuel to keep you warm in the cold winters.
Same thought process im going through. Not sure if we get a first bit of pump then continue to dump. Might just try a few deep in the money puts on spy or something at 11am.
Tyler Collins
identifying where rock bottom will be more important than what you buy. good luck timing it.
Gavin Richardson
How fucked am I? I bought the TQQQ hoping for a monday pump like last week. I've also go 30K in cash
Everytime index futures have gone limit down I have bought and I have never lost money in many years. Buying puts on open would be a mistake
Asher Young
So basically fascism? I guess you would be giving a small group of people the ability to pick losers and winners, which in the long term leads to monopolies. It goes against everything free-market capitalism stands for.
Preppers were right in the end, literally the only way to survive this if you stacked up on food and medcine for years
Levi Sullivan
>AMD 12% down Holy fuck. Thank FED for letting me dump my bags on Friday
Xavier Fisher
Interest rates on all loans would have to be mandated for this to turn out to have some sort of easement. Meaning banks may fail left and right.
There is no good outcome to this realistically as the Fed clearly does not seem to see or understand the implications of it's short term decisions. They only make the long term harder for themselves. I think realistically the world govs may just trash the old currency and make a world currency under the guise of "it will work this time, trust me haha". There is no good end to this unless thousands of people die, justice is restored, and governments shrink.
I've been up all night watching the Euro and Asian markets. Top kek. Something fucking awful is going to happen to society this week.
Dominic Campbell
they're called "hard assets" things that will have value if money itself disappeared.
Nolan Parker
It's nothing. Don't care, not prepping, not selling.
Easton Smith
>How fucked am I? I bought the TQQQ hoping for a monday pump like last week. I've also go 30K in cash As of the drop last night TQQQ is about -7% cash balance. The ETF stands a good chance of getting liquidated today. You are fucked
Noah Brooks
I'm expiring today 300 SPY and 3/16 280 gang senpai
Caleb Kelly
dont worry guys the fed got this, by amplifying more female black leaders
bros it's going to crash but anyone with cash after today will be able to buy up the top companies for fire sale prices I'm going to wait until after the massacre, buy some of the normal stuff then start looking at houses lol
Index futures have only gone limit down 3 times since 2015. I started trading futures quite a few years before then and I have always bought when the indexes went limit down and have never lost money. Do not short today.
Levi Torres
>Bloomberg's feed is on a holding pattern because everyone in the studio killed themselves.
how bad guys? i don't really understand financial stuff
Luis Barnes
Bought the dip for dividends. Planned on some shorts following weeks. Find out I dont have margin account.
Bros we're all gonna make it but I'm gonna be a little late to the party.
Jose Johnson
it's very good. BUY THE FUCKING DIP
Jaxon Adams
this is good.
Samuel Nelson
>rules have been laid out for trading before market open >trading will be halted for the rest of the day if people even think about selling and causing a 20% drop Jesus christ they just locked us in for a bloodbath and its not even 9AM yet
Eli Miller
9 bads out of 10
Caleb Harris
Russians and Saudis are crashing global market with no survivors.
That shit on it self would do -1000 dow, but now we have it and Corona
basically money will cease to exist, the world is turning into a mad max tier shithole
Jason Nelson
Bitcoin in November 2018 bad
Jackson Perez
Just make sure to sell before the bounce back ends
Robert Green
The fed pump will make a -20% drop impossible
Daniel Butler
SELL EVERYTHING
Connor Miller
POST YOUR LOSSES TRIPDEVIL. WE KNOW YOU WENT LONG ON OIL
Kayden Carter
Can’t decide whether to buy more DAL and JBLU airline dip today or in a week. As soon as we hit bottom I want everything. Already bought 30 shares last week.
Expecting a crash today, cat bounce tomorrow, and a further fall on Wednesday.
Do you guys actually see this as a dip? Do you not see that this market is overdue for a correction? The Fed REPO pump, banks dry of liquidity, overvalued P/E ratios and non-existent earnings growth in future projected due to virus shutting down the whole fucking China for a month? The buybacks madness, mass ETF investing through robinhood? How do you see this as sustainable in short term is beyond me, this whole thing is ripe for a collapse. Don't forget about overleveraged as fuck hedge funds that are about to get margin called this very week if this continues.
Aiden Peterson
The bulls were really arrogant last monday, they deserve this
Isaac Peterson
The FED will save it aren't they?
Bentley Richardson
Also >15 minute halts on 7% drops and 13% drops as well We're all gonna die. It's just become a race to sell before the circuit breakers go.
Adrian Reyes
I'm scared anons
Are my puts going to be worthless? Will I be able to sell them now?
>Imagine thinking you can predict the bottom >Imagine not knowing how to average down and just being an all around retard Have fun missing the eventual recovery.
This is the kind of thing that happens in decadent society. Things have been so good for so long, that other things take up the “important” role that used to be occupied by things such as wars and recessions. Can’t wait for there to be some actual real world issues to drown out these pathetic “muh slight disenfranchisement ;(“ cucks
>bad student debt >bad auto debt >bad credit card debt >bad corporate debt You niggas really think there won't be a recession? Just wait until these debtors start defaulting.
