>mfw I am one of less than 500 people on earth who actually understand bitcoin and its true potential >mfw you've all been deceived by one of the most elaborate smear campaigns of our time >mfw I understand that big blocks are going to completely change the fabric of society and make the world hyper efficient and abundant >mfw you're all still trying to coax "institutional money" and banks into buying your bags not knowing that bitcoin at scale makes them obsolete
Have fun with your tokens, I'll just be chilling here in the future of everything
BTC dropping like a fly. BSV/BTC actually holding up pretty good. Are we seeing the start of the flippening.
Zachary Barnes
No, most of them are barking up the wrong tree completely
Could be! We've got like 2 months until halvening so a lot could happen
Brayden Robinson
are we living in alternate reality? BSV is getting more rekt than BTC
Austin Green
Bsv is bitcoin full stop! Read the wp and understand how bitcoin should work. STIFF!
Caleb Barnes
BSV is still green on the 7 days. I think this is a good sign that the market my slowly be pulling its head out of the sand. Bottom is likely in against BTC pair and there is no much selling going on, just bots following BTC. Keeping above 25-24k sats would mean reversal for the coming week/months.
Trust me you don't want to miss this once this goes bull.
2months is a short time. We should see decent action within a month.
John Lewis
imagine not buying the real bitcoin under $200
Camden King
Still accumulating
Benjamin Price
>dat tripcode
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Levi Anderson
lol
Leo Murphy
>only I have the secret knowledge to comprehend how BSV isn't a scam This but unironically
>mfw you've all been deceived by one of the most elaborate smear campaigns of our time
Michael Torres
no you are stupid and your shitcoin sucks you are not a secret genius or anything just a retard that got dumped on.
Blake Barnes
if you actually read the whitepaper you wouldn't spout such ridiculous bullshit.
Juan Baker
Keep supporting segwit shit
Noah Hernandez
lmao, great projection BSV is exactly what is described in the whitepaper, whereas BTC has been rendered a dysfunctional shitcoin
Andrew Williams
This
Benjamin Rodriguez
congrats. those of us who got into crypto because the tech was new and interesting converted to BSV first. it's the better bitcoin and there really isn't any denying it. people just don't like creg and regurgitate what other people have said to them >it's a scam!!!! reeee it's a better bitcoin, but if we're being honest with ourselves, that might not matter. depends on whether or not blockchain ends up being useful before the hype around it dies. so far, BTC is just a commodity that is fun to trade. not sure I like the idea of a microtransaction future desu...if its done right it might make sense, but the history of tech has me cynical.
Lucas Rogers
its too bad we can't discuss this shit as nerds like we used to on the old bitcoin talk forums. there's not enough nerds in the crowd anymore that are able to offer interesting opinions. biz is all newfag retards these days who don't know anything about how any of it actually works.
Xavier Price
Discussing it as nerds is what got us into this mess to begin with... now we are in extreme populist mode. And 2020 is an election year. We're about to see the most bizarre information war in human history play out as this thing really takes off...
Nobody is seriously preparing themselves for the possibility that BSV is going to fuck their shit up and make a lot of "experts" look like complete fools.
Dev here. BSV has some interesting work being done by Andresen sorry I meant unwriter but big blocks ultimately means locating it in a single data center. Doing that means CSW/Ayre can mine your coins into their wallets - so that’s a hard yikes from me
Luis Robinson
>BSV is exactly what is described in the whitepaper no it's most definitely not. the whitepaper is pretty clear about how bitcoin is defined it's the longest chain with the most accumulated proof of work. this sentence makes zero sense if you allow changes to the difficulty algo from that point on you don't have bitcoin you made an other shitcoin..
Isaiah Phillips
it's not better unless you consider ad1d0s better than adidas. and it's not bitcoin either objectively can't be. sorry. time to toss away childish dreams and grow the fuck up and face reality!
Noah Rogers
gavin and the unwriter are on two different scale of autism.
Carter Roberts
Shut it bumder
Jaxon Cooper
Except there will more likely be hundreds of thousands of large scale data centers... like Satoshi said. Big blocks will be lucrative as fuck
>Andresen sorry I meant unwriter
No
>the whitepaper is pretty clear about how bitcoin is defined it's the longest chain with the most accumulated proof of work.
Bitcoin is a chain of signatures (Segwit is not), accumulated PoW only matters when miners are on the same network mining the same blocks
but since it's not bitcoins ruleset it's not bitcoin. exactly.
Ryder Baker
also consider this, if the definition of bitcoin allowed minority forks to be bitcoins we would have a billion bitcoins by now... everyone would just make their own fork and insist on it being bitcoin. the nakamoto consensus takes care of it so long it's unbroken. that's our only objective definition of bitcoin. everything else is subjective. you break the nakamoto consensus and fork off with a minority chain you are an alt end of story.
Jason Mitchell
BTC is broken or at least very fucking limited. it's incredibly inefficient. blockchain in general has some hard limits and for a long time has been a solution in search of a problem. it's getting better, but it won't unless you break out of your retarded thinking that iterations aren't necessary to improve. this is software ffs, we have take an iterative approach and continue to refine the codebase as it scales to adapt to new challenges. BTC core isn't capable of doing that anymore.
Lucas James
it was always going to end up in large data centers user. you thought a blockchain was going to be able to take up space on a mac forever? this was one of the reasons I wrote off BTC in 2009. it had obvious scaling issues. the argument was always that we'd figure it out as we needed to. cross that bridge when we get to it.... well?
Benjamin Jackson
actually btc with ln has literally no real hard limit on tx/s. with just 2 onchain tx you can literally make billions of translations.
think outside your box sometimes! also understand the primary purpose of the bitcoin blockchain better! maybe you will understand why it doesn't have to do fucking everything just the one thing only it can do.
Dylan Ortiz
Yep bitcoin forked into segwitshitcoin. Bsv is still bitcoin
Ayden Diaz
BTC handles like 3-4 transactions a second....that's all it's capable of. bigger blocks are needed to scale that up.
Connor Campbell
Then put your money where your mouth is
Needs to be the top market cap
Carter Carter
>Andresen sorry I meant unwriter two personalities literally couldn't be more different >ultimately means locating it in a single data center wrong, it means that all large mining operations will operate from large data centers, just like Satoshi always intended bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532#msg6306 >The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be. Those few nodes will be big server farms. The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate. >—Satoshi there will likely be hundreds of such operations worldwide, at least one for every developed economy
Dylan Bailey
So simple to understand once you dig in to those posts of satoshi. I don't understand people don't see btc is totally fucked up. Bsv is just doing what has to be done to scale up and lower the tx fees.
Ayden Peterson
of course BSV is doing that, since it's actually Bitcoin and spearheaded by Satoshi himself
Anthony Bailey
Scaling up is all well and good, but there's more to the tech than money transfer.
Robert Jackson
Yeah well i am not busy with who Satoshi is. I do see that bitcoin is a protocol like tcp/ip is a protocol and it should not change it into a shitty crap protocol. The protocol should be set in stone like Satoshi said. Like you don't change a car into one with 2 wheels.
Michael Peterson
yes, bigger blocks are needed for that too, especially now that Bitcoin (BSV) has fully functional smart contracts and all manners of computational capabilities which scale
Thomas Ward
You mongloids forget the most important part. No one cares which is the actual bitcoin. People buy bitcoin, they dont care what it does or how slow it is or what is written in a stupid 10 year old paper (where some retards probably ejaculate every day on) Normies buy btc, not something which gets delisted everywhere. You nerds can suck a big dick now
Cooper Martinez
no it's fucking not since it's a fork of bch and that forked off of bitcoin a long time ago it couldn't even be if it tried real hard.
also segwit is absolutely brilliant and the building block of many future developments on bitcoin. taproot is an other interesting possibly revolutionary change.
Daniel Campbell
that's two bullshit in one sentence. congrats.
Zachary Peterson
What it can do is micropayments without any intermediary. That's what the whitepaper is all about, that's what bitcoin is. BTC cant do that.
>no it's fucking not since it's a fork of bch
No, it's a fork from Segwit.
>taproot is an other interesting possibly revolutionary change.
Ok, so why isnt anyone building on it or talking about it? BTC has no network effects or innovation, this is a fact. Nobody cares about LN or Taproot or any of that shit.
Juan Martin
Normies are going to play e-sport games build on bitcoin. Enterprise will build on bitcoin. Real normies don't want all that techy stuff like the lightning network (which will never work). Normies want to use like they don't even know they use bitcoin.
Jace Myers
Everything he said is true. Do you know how I know you are a brainlet?
Parker Myers
Normies wont even have a choice, nobody will. Big blocks will consume the entire world, it will be inescapable. Nobody will care about BTC because they have a choice, same with any other crypto.
Zachary Allen
Yep. And even if bitcoin (bsv) will fail in the future all coins will die including btc because up until now bitcoin is superior against btc or any coin out there. It literally has no competition.