Why is he so annoying?

Tolkien did mention trade route tariffs disputes between Mirkwood elves and Lake-town people in the Hobbit, and how elves imported agricultural produce to sustain themselves. I don't think Martin elaborated on his trade policies more than "Dorne exported wine".

The moment i discovered he's another kike it all made sense.

It's funny that you say that in a way that implies Martin's writing is simplistic in comparison, when all of these examples are on the same level of vague and superficial. "They trade and buy food" is not exactly great worldbuilding either bro.

>Martin can say that Starks ruled the North for 9,000 years
this is beyond retarded, I hope he has some explanation in the next books.

Tolkien is to creative literary genius what Martin is to hack pulp idiocy. They both far surpass anyone in their field that they will be remembered 1,000 years from now as a kind of yin yang of fantasy, a Manichean duality of speculative letters. For every sublime, luminous beauty that Tolkien has gifted the world, Martin has cursed us with a tedious, banal, sterile, parasitical and inferior, but so much so that he becomes a monument in his own right, and counterbalances Tolkien. Could one exist without the other? Tolkien obviously could. But it is only by the contrast that Martin offers could we truly appreciate the full depths and heights of Tolkien. Our understanding of Tolkien would be incomplete if Martin had never set pen to page. It is only through the abject failure and futility of Martin that we can approach an apprehension of the true scope and scale of Tolkien's hitherto inconceivable greatness. Perhaps this is what Tolkien had in mind when he wrote about the Music of the Ainur. If Tolkien is a subcreator in the image of Eru, truly is unlike unto Melkor. It is only reflected in the awfulness of the one that we can fully see the greatness of the other.

>"They trade and buy food"
In Tolkien, this particular narrative element comes organically out of the circumstances laid out in the book - 1. Elves live in an environment not suitable for growing food; 2. Lake-men are dependant on the water course through Mirkwood controlled by Thranduil; 3. Lake-town Master is in a delicate position since he needs to protect his town's economic interests and not to anger Thranduil, while indulging towsfolk's surge of enthusiasm for Thranduil's escaped captives.

>all this and its still an inferior genre about some fantasy world

>Planetos
please tell me that isn't the actual name of the planet

It is.

Geeks on the whole get more annoying the older they get. It's a thing.

Excuse me while I vomit in the Toiletos.

>His only good work was his first two books of ASOIAF
A few of his early short stories are good. Sandkings for example, which was made into a TV movie (that nobody here except me has ever seen).

He has no right to talk shit about worldbuilding then. That fat fuck can just keel over and die for all I care, I've been tired of hearing about GoT for years, and it's all his fault. He gave rise to lotr tax posting though, so a tleast there was some positive

I've never met an a skilled writer that disagrees with what he said. I feel like people who take umbrage with his attack on Tolkein are hobbyist consumers at best that have established pseudo canonical boundaries around Tolkein as if he is impervious to criticism. The truth is LOTR aren't anywhere close to the best Fantasy books enough to be considered the greatest. People argue impact but how many people do you see arguing Citizen Kane is the greatest film of all time? It's a dumb ass argument. LOTR was part of his language dissertation and he even admitted story telling was never a priority for him.

youve never read a book

calling the western land westeros and the planet planetos is lazy and sounds really stupid

The newer generations have to shit on the older generations to justify to themselves why they're subverting all the old tropes

He doesn't 'ask' that question because Tolkien wasn't obsessed with false political and social philosophy like most 'artists', authors and 'fim makers' are today.

It isn't you autist.

What was Ned Starks tax policy? I cant remeber any tax policys in GOT

>only in about 10 seconds and he's already redpilling the audience on shitty sparkle vampires

Hating on Twilight is the most pleb bland reddit thing you can do

>arguing if Citizen Kane
all the time.
In fact who even makes this claim? Ive heard it made about vertigo for example or one of kurosawas films..

No one asked

Gurm isn't half as annoying as Moorcock.

>Live through trench warfare of WW1
>Lose a lot of friends at war
>Write a novel about hardships and injustice of war
>Years later a pampered neckbeard slob writing a pulp trash and riding your coattails by "subverting" your work with sex and violence, slaps you for escapism

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that is kind of the point isn't it, on the one hand he complains about 'aragorn was a good king' and that is that, when he does exactly the same thing. In his world complex economics are replaced by the idea that all you have to do is put someone semi competent in charge and the kingdom prospers. Not to mention that a lot of his ideas are stolen from history without any regard as to how they came to be, the primary example being the iron bank of bravos, which is tryingt to be a napoleon era bank in a medival world, it makes no fucking sense and just goes to show as to how clueless GRRM really is when it comes to the time period he has selected for his work.

it's not you shitposting faggot

>NOOO YOU CANNOT DISLIKE MY TOLKIERINO YOU MUST BEND OVER AND TAKE HIS WRINKLY ANGLO COCK

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There was none.
GoT could have taught us something about freedom, economic systems or something else that might shed light on some topic but it did none of that.
It was just a soap opera with dragons.
it created mentally ill villains and propagated the idea of the benevolent king/leader. A complex all of society still suffers from, even in the west.
In short his books were just low quality fantasy soap opera.

Moorcock is shit. I don’t think anything he’s ever written is even remotely close to the quality of LOTR.

>"I did begin a story placed about 100 years after the Downfall, but it proved both sinister and depressing. Since we are dealing with Men, it is inevitable that we should be concerned with the most regrettable feature of their nature: their quick satiety with good. So that the people of Gondor in times of peace, justice and prosperity, would become discontented and restless — while the dynasts descended from Aragorn would become just kings and governors — like Denethor or worse. I found that even so early there was an outcrop of revolutionary plots, about a centre of secret Satanistic religion; while Gondorian boys were playing at being Orcs and going around doing damage. I could have written a 'thriller' about the plot and its discovery and overthrow — but it would have been just that. Not worth doing."

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to be honest i'm kind of jealous he's rich and recognized for trashing other people's work whilst writing garbage

can i get rich by criticizing classic literature from a "post-modernist" direction too?

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>>NOOO YOU CANNOT DISLIKE MY TOLKIERINO YOU MUST BEND OVER AND TAKE HIS WRINKLY ANGLO COCK

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>moorcock

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>this particular narrative element comes organically out of the circumstances laid out in the book
stop trying so hard redditor

No one argues that Citizen Kane is the greatest film of all time. They argue that it is the most influential. And even IF you hear people arguing the former, compare it to faggots who argue LOTR is the greatest fantasy series for similar reasons. The LOTR numbers would dwarf the CK numbers. Don't be obtuse.

youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhGqWcJGY

>no one argues that citizen kane is the greatest film of all time
they do, just fucking google it if you don't believe me.