>90% of battles happen offscreen
why.
90% of battles happen offscreen
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they don't even have the budget to do the boring scenes accurately, let alone battles. For instance, you know those S2 scenes of bronn and tyrion walking the city streets talking to each other and blackmailing lancel? In the books, tyrion is always on horseback with a retinue of 50 knights following him all around the city. They'd all be in full plate armor with banners and everything. A Lord's retinue, full of pomp and circumstance, like it's own parade wherever the lord goes.
Instead we have two peasants walking the streets on foot in rags, even though a noble would never be caught dead with his feet in the street and would pretty much be on his horse 24/7
They didn't want to spend money on horses an
*and armor and extras
it's very common in Hollywood to cut corners on retinues and travel scenes
It was actually better that way, look what happened when they actually showed the battles.
that's completely reasonable though
like they're expensive, you can only expect so much
the biggest disappointment for me (other than the story and show itself obviously) for season 1 episode 9, where tyrion gets knocked out and they skip the battle. That one pissed me off.
Other than that I thought they more or less delivered
Hollywood has proven to be unable to accurately depict medieval battles anyway.
That one show about the Viking invasions (The Last Kingdom I think?) had an accurate battle in it though, probably the most accurate portrayal of medieval warfare ever made.
youtu.be
I'd rather they skip the battles and focus on the sets and costumes rather than doing both poorly.
>Other than that I thought they more or less delivered
I feel bad for zoomers like you because you've never experienced a time when television and film wasn't awful so your expectations are subterranean
God that looks terrible
>youtu.be
Is this meant to be Stanford Bridge?
imagine just shoveling literal shit into your mouth and telling everyone it tastes good. You're subhuman.
The wilding battle was well done. Battle of the bastards while visually impressive was too retarded for me to enjoy. Battle of winterfell was retarded too and you couldn’t see shit
Based "clicked too early on post" phoneposter
you can nitpick all you want but this battle features
>battle lines that are respected and don't devolve into a big 1v1 moshpit
>shield walls
>minimal casualties, armies break off and rest for a bit before going back at it
all of this is great and they clearly took the advice of the historical adviser for once
>No bows, javelins or skirmishers of any kind.
>Almost nobody carries a spear.
>Battles are a shield pushing match.
They didn't want to make it too repetitive. Medieval fantasy battles in movies are always pretty much the same thing: the protagonists are losing and everything seems lost until an army or whatever comes out of nowhere and saves the day, or the battle is inconclusive just to show how strong the other side is. You can't keep showing the same stuff over and over.
Yeah user was retarded, that sucked donkey balls
I didn't say it was perfect but it's the best I've ever seen and that's sad if anything which is the point
literally name one battle that does it better. I've never seen battle lines respected that much before. some shows or movies do it at first but quickly fall prey to the moshpit mentality.
shitheads
This is one of the worst things I've ever seen
The problem is battles in real life very rarely ever have a clear reason why one side ends up winning and the other loses without people having to analyze everything that went into it. That and tactics that have no meaning to the average viewer.
Its difficult to make work when you're trying to tell a story without reverting to the most retarded elements like "More people arrived"
People were retarded during this period.
Europeans forgot how to fight wars properly from the entire period of the collapse of rome until they started professionalizing warfare again with mercenaries in the late middle ages which is hundreds of years after this.
>literally name one battle that does it better
Unironically, Braveheart is the GOAT in Western Cinema. It's retarded but the battles are actually good.
go fuck yourself
god you people are the fucking worst, so fucking negative about everything. the fact that none of you can post anything better is my fucking point, not that I'm abandoning my position either because that was more accurate than anything you can post and I guarantee it.
If this is the best they can do, and it's still not good enough for you, then why do you even want battles? THAT is my fucking point you FUCKING RETARDS
fuck everyone here, assholes for no reason
braveheart has an ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RETARDED battle scene you fucking retard
fucking hell you're all stupid as fuck
>Leather armors and wicker shields
>People were retarded during this period.
Retard cop out
Those historia civilis and kings & generals and so on various youtube channels seem to manage it just fine.
You just need some narrative excuse for someone to be explaining details to the viewer, like the commander standing at his table receiving dispatches or whatever.
>braveheart has an ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RETARDED battle scene you fucking retard
>fucking hell you're all stupid as fuck
Nah its good
>You just need some narrative excuse for someone to be explaining details to the viewer, like the commander standing at his table receiving dispatches or whatever
This would work but the average viewer has an IQ of 100 and its still hard to make it have any actual story value
I still think that Alexander's first battle scene was the best even though the rest of the movie was trash
Yeah, shit like that and all of Rob Staks battles made me think there were going to be no actual fighting scenes. Then came battle of Blackwater. It was pretty good. That revived my hope in this show. Just to be let down in the end..
>All battles happened, across the whole world, across 1500 years, the same exact way!
>what are cavalry, archers, javelins, greek fire, formations besides shieldwall...?
Nah, you're autistic and need to let go of youtube as a historical source.
because they realized they could put absolutely 0 effort into the show and the dibbling mongoloid masses like this absolute fucknut would lap it up anyway
Not medieval
only children and brainlets want to see choreographed fighting
fucking kill yourself you absolute fucking retard I never implied that you absolutely fucking retarded piece of fucking shit asshole cocksucker
the thing I hate most about Yas Forums is that I can't even have the conversation I want because all you people want to do is nitpick irrelevant bullshit, I hate every single one of you and am twice as smart as any of you and you're all wrong about everything you've posted and I'm completely right and did absolutely nothing wrong but the world isn't fair and people like me never get the respect they deserve for being better than everyone else.
so fuck all of you
Everyone's talking shit but this is probably pretty accurate save for the use of swords as main arm
I think this post legit gave me cancer.
Based mountain is attempting to lift 501kg deadlift btw, aiming for world record. Happening real soon like within a week or so but i can\t remember when
Now you know
everyone is talking shit because this is the worst board on Yas Forums and all these people want to do is be "the smartest nerd" even though none of them know anything and just watch lindybeige and other hacks. The only reason they're here is because they want to prove they're better "medieval experts" than I am, not even here to discuss the topic at all.
I think I posted the best battle tactics ever put on screen and got nothing but nitpicking from retards who don't realize the point I was making
Maybe stop acting like an authority on the subject and ripping on everything else. You'll attract the eye of Sauron and you apparently can't handle the little heat it gives off.
Yep. If a show wants to make good battle scenes they need to plan them way ahead, and make the characters deliver the rules of the game through dialogue before it actually happens. I, Claudius had a cool scene where Augustus is teaching some kids military strategy through some type of board game, I don't remember how accurate it was but if a show could use things like that to set up for the viewer notions of logistics, supply lines, harassment, formations, how archers and cavalry are use, how terrain influences battle, military deception and so on you'd be able to deliver good battles eventually.
>I think...
Doubtful.
Fucking. Kill. Yourself. You saw my post and thought
>hur dur dur let me argue with this guy and posture myself as the most knowledable history buff! oh i'm sorry what was this thread about? I don't know I just came here out of sheer ego
user you need to calm down bro what's going on with you?
you cannot post a single movie battle in cinematic history that portrays infantry tactics as accurately as what I just posted. In fact, the scene is literally reactionary realism in response to the fact that nobody ever does tactics right.
300
I'm still blown away that you claimed that people were too retarded to use pointed sticks to keep things away.
That was another user (me). And they were.
Imagine trying to make a point about movie budgets and battle tactics and the thread devolves into shitflinging about how the costumes and weapons aren't right? When my whole point was that they can't have both and you either choose accuracy or budget since producers will only fund moshpit battles?
You idiots saw an opportunity to live out your vicarious lindybeige fantasy by lecturing me and so the thread itself is irrelevant. That's why I hate every single one of you. you're only here to prove you're better than me. this thread would be dead without you guys trying to prove you're the alpha nerds
they literally break off the shield wall in 300, 2 minutes after forming it. they proceed to never use it again the whole movie. retard
why didn't they use pincer movement, both flanks were pretty wide open
How horrifying.
at this point in history, cavalry is very rare. it doesn't gain prominence until William the Conquerer in 1066, this takes place before that. England barely had any horses, battles were almost entirely infantry. I know this because I actually know my history and wasn't actually defending 100% of the clip I showed you FUCKING ASSHOLES
I don't buy it. Have you ever been to a standing-room, general admission concert? The men in front would be crushed between the surges of men on both sides. The clip shows the guys in front keeping their feet, the strength of the line being them and them alone with a bunch of guys politely following behind. As soon as the shields touched, you'd get a rush of assholes climbing over your back screeching "let me get closer! I want to hit it with my sword!" Which would strengthen the line, but makes the very front guys basically useless. The guy on the more ordered, better-behaved line would be pitting the strength of his shoulder against the weight and aggression of 6 screaming retards trying to bury him.
What actually happened was the production budget ran out of money before he could finish writing his post. So he had to cut it off mid sentence and wrap for the day.
Its SAG policy actually.
Cringiest video I've seen all week. Imagine making this post
Except the second half is a literal mosh pit.
And shield pushing matches are memes. You would dig your shield into the ground and form a NONEMOVING wall. Usually several rings of shield walls, Not a rugby pushing match.
Yeah, pretty much why Rome was able to take over everything north and west of them so ways was they were fighting against retards (ignorant bastards is more accurate, but retards is more fun) with no way to pass down knowledge or tactics besides some basic memes. It was really only the east that took effort.