Is this series any good?
Is this series any good?
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First season is
Yes.
Yes. It's one of those rare shows that actually gets better season to season. Also, it has meaningfully and sometimes legitimately disturbing main character deaths.
yeah it's great, at the beginning it sucks dick tho, so just push through it
When does it get good? Are just the first few episodes rough or the entire first season?
The gay subplot and the prostitute chatter ruined it for me but after watching it all the way through, I've begun to appreciate what they were trying to do here. For a 4 season show, it was pretty ambitious in terms of its set pieces.
Season 2 was when I started to get interested in the actual episodes themselves. The first season was just set up with a couple of ship battles, one in the middle and one in the end. When they do happen, it's really fantastic but the rest of the time you're just dragging on to see where the plot leads. It actually gets good in season 2 and I started binging it in season 3 right to the end. It's worth it. I give the show an 8/10 overall. Great set pieces and good character arcs, but lots of filler in the early episodes.
It's a legitimate masterpiece, but give it a pass if the existence of a gay character makes you seethe
I liked it quite a bit. Seasons 1 and 2 seem to have one foot in cheesy soap opera level drama and the other in actually good writing/story.
The show really steps up in season 3 and the last few eps of 4 are some really great tv imho.
Flint and Silver (and Rackham and Blackbeard to a lesser extent) sell the show.
I loved it, gave it 10/10 on imdb, it's good, really good, all 3 seasons.
Must rewatch it, it's on ViaPlay and maybe on Netflix.
I’ve heard that the show is just straight up for gay people and it’s the central charachter or charachters not like supporting charchters like Renly and Loras or Theon’s dyke sister in GoT.
Pass then. Gays deserve death.
Watching it again, it's really a bit too much
>gurl powah
I mean come on, it's a pirate society and women apparently are awesome fighters who run everything? No, they were prostitutes and rape bait.
>Flint and Silver
These two guys made the show. And Vane and his crew too. Every other brothel character brings the whole show down with the meandering scenes of them talking about whores and shit. And don't get me started on Max. I hate her monotonous voice.
It's not that bad really the main dude is gay but it's not constantly thrown in your face I think him and another dude kissed maybe twice and that's it, but the gay dude is bi anyway and is banging a women most of the show, the way people over react on here you get the impression it's wall to wall dick sucking
I thought it had a pretty ugly cheapo look to it similar to many other modern period dramas that was a huge turn off for me
it's a C+ show. you want it to be good and it has occasional moments of brilliance and you might like some of the characters but it's mostly a missed opportunity. only watch if you're super into pirates and can slog through a lot of bullshit.
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By the time you can forgive it for it's cheesy *preeeeeemiiiiuummmm channnnel* edgy bullshit and it starts to really hit it's stride, it's rushed to an ending.
Worth a watch, but effectively cancelling it two seasons in was a programming mistake that robbed it of anything it had going.
The costumes get better as the series progresses.
i watched it but i dont really remember most of it, pretty unremarkable 2bh
Yes and no. The set pieces are amazing and the acting is on point. The show actually comes within a cunt's hair of being perfect. But as perfect a show as Robert Levine has created here, he still has a partner (((Jonathan Steinberg))) and he makes sure that his creative control is felt too.
One subplot which feels wildly out of character is enough to ruin the otherwise perfect show.
The main character is gay as part of his backstory, there isnt even a gay sex scene, just one kiss. People have been begging for gay characters that aren't overtly faggy for years, then one comes along and you all bitch.
Flint is among the best characters in television, if you're too deep into politics to see that you shouldn't be watching shows to begin with.
this is the biggest "COULD'VE BEEN GOOOOOOD" in the history of all series ever.
First season is ok, but Eleanor, Max, the governor & ultimately the nigs & john silver in the end totally bin it, Last 2 seasons are worthless shits. Also they fuck up the best character (Billy Bones) turning him into a traitor,
By the end it's just an SJW clusterfuck, with the forced agenda of placing a black lesbian woman (most annoying character in the show) as the head of everything at the end.
Don't watch it.
The inclusion of him being a fag was blatant pandering to a specific demographic. It was forced, unnecessary, and affected the quality of the show.
>just one kiss
Wrong. You didn't watch the show.
Ignore this retard, it's Spartacus levels of woke which is not even close to modern standards
It wasn't forced or uneccessary. It made perfect narrative sense within the themes of the show and is an integral part of Flint's backstory. The show completely falls apart without it.
>Wrong. You didn't watch the show.
There is quite literally one single male-on-male kiss in the entire show and it takes part in a flashback
I was going to give the show a try with the claims that it isn’t overly faggoty but you claim it isn’t while saying the entire series hinges on a homosexual relationship. Sounds pretty fucking gay to me.
It's one of the few series that sucked me in and I started binging it. And I was watching Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire at the time, too. Maybe it helped because it was the Summer and it was all very sunny, dunno. It's unironically a great show in general, not just a good pirate show. Even if you dislike a character or two, there are tons of them to like. Rackham and Anne, Vane, Flint, Silver's journey, Blackbeard; they're all great. The ships are real ships, not just sets, so it adds to the immersion. It's got a theatrical sort of vibes with the speeches and writing, so that's another plus. The mutt whore is a bit of a Mary Sue, but it's got no real 'stronk womyn' moments. Eleanor gets punched in the face by Vane in the first episode, and Anne barely survives a fight with some U N I T by using trickery.
TL;DR Yes.
The main guy is a bifag that used to top a Lord and also fuck his wife on the side.
i don't think that he's right; that the entire plot would fall apart without the singular overt homosexual love interest. i'm not very partial to seeing men kiss on camera, and i thought it was a little bit contrived, but it certainly didn't ruin the series.
it might depend on how much you enjoy nautical/pirate/time period material. i fukken love the period and setting. little too egregious on the sex scenes, but a good show
I liked the first season but it gets boring and cringy very quickly. I only stayed for the hot pirate girls
>SJW clusterfuck
The politics of the show are literally no more SJW than thinking slavery was bad and gay people shouldn't be killed on sight. If you're so fragile that this is offensive you need to get your head checked.
It's hard to explain without spoiling everything. There is literally nothing faggy about Flint though, the dude is as masculine as it gets.
Basically Flint being gay makes him completely incompatible with English civilization. It's something inherent to his being that means he can NEVER be accepted, which is why his vendetta against them is so strong. If it were anything else (like the regular pirates around him simply being criminals) he could be forgiven or pardoned, but this is something that will never be corrected. And if Flint can't change himself, he has to change the whole world around him - which is what he tries to do.
If anyone could give me a single alternate backstory that would have the same effect I'd love to hear it, but I'm not seeing any way to make Flint a compelling character without that.
I heard it was cancelled a few years back and have been avoiding it for that reason.
Does it end in a satisfying way or will it just piss me off that Starz cancels everything decent?
It had some limits - they had to end roughly where treasure island begins, with certain people still alive. It's also historically pretty innacurate. As for the gay thing, look up what "matey" is short for, and also cabin boys.
It wasn't cancelled, it ends at the intended ending.