Its just me and you now sport. I'm going to find you god damnit!

why would a man wear shorts that tiny

Dolarhyde's wardrobe was pretty interesting

The glowing eyes of the mother victim and then glowing faces of the blind chick and guy 'kissing' her are pretty cool.

Is that concept of light coming from the victims from the books?

You get a pass if you're on the beach/boating

He has good taste in fashion, it matches his mental complex character wise

I feel like the big weakness of Red Dragon was Norton. Not that he's a bad actor by any means, he just wasn't right for the role.

why would a man feel insecure wearing short shorts?

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>when this song hits

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Also Hopkins doing his over the top Lecter in some monster dungeon also the colour scheme looking like turd also the film just being really ugly in general. Red Dragon is just a piece of shit.

watched thief and manhunter last week good shit

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Brian Cox gets no credit for his take on Lecter. His performance was subdued compared to Hopkins, but far scarier. He came across more unhinged than outright crazy.

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>I'm not smarter than you doctor, you had a disadvantage. You're insane.
Drop that bassssssed

Yeah his Lecter came across as a genuinely intelligent psychopath.

Loved Cox. Indeed gets no credit.

I think it was more how Lecter was written in RD than Hopkins performance. And yes, that movie was ugly. Manhunter has it's faults, but it's very pretty

Here i.... am.

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Is it me, or did they really not really bother with the idea of how Graham gets into the guys heads? There was way more of a focus on that in Manhunter

vrabo fuller

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I hate how everything is so dark in dramas these days. Like I get what you're going for, but I can't see shit.

Frank was the man

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It's like they don't teach film students about colour theory or some shit everything looks like ASS

I'm not interested in the actor. The question should be who did it better, Mann, Demme, Scott, Ratner (lol), or Fuller? I think we could agree, more or less, that the answer would be Mann>Demme>Fuller>Scott>Ratner and who even gives a shit about the prequel. Part of the appeal of Cox's more subdued performance is that it's also counter-balanced by the aesthetic choices surrounding him, from small to big: his t-shirt's white, his shirt's white, the prison bars are white, the chair, the bed sheets, even his pillow, even his socks, the walls are white, and outside the whole fucking building with its huge spiraling stairs, the doors, and even the alley outside as he's running away, everything's white, with Will dressed in black, framed as a small silhouette who can't escape some kind of nightmare. So even when he's outside and he's trying to breathe, he's still in the realm of the cell, Lektor is still in his head. You can watch the scene with the sound turned off, not listening to the dialogues, but you'll still understand the visual storytelling, the heavy atmosphere, the relationship between these two and the duality within Will. The aesthetic symbolism is extremely blatant yet when you watch the scene, it comes off as subtle. It's not Cox himself but the whole unnatural atmosphere surrounding him that has a strong effect. Demme does the opposite, gives the jail a gothic vibe with its darker color palette and the decrepit brick walls, but most of the effect comes from having Hopkins playing an over-the-top horror monster and casting expressionistic lighting and shadow over his face to highlight his evil and disturbing nature. It's more physical than psychological, it's efficient on the moment but leaves nothing. The thing is when he's not on screen, Clarice is completely boring because Demme does nothing interesting with her visually. Whereas Mann keeps crafting his atmosphere meticulously to depict the character psychology, Lektor's aura remains.

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these 10 minutes are key and explicit the duality between the two, Hannibal's the bridge between Will and Dollarhyde, in a far more interesting way thematically than he is between Clarice and Buffalo Bill, since Silence is just a procedural thriller whereas Manhunter is a character study about the contamination and compartmentalization of evil, the ambiguous duality between good and evil, law and crime. Clarice just follows Lecter's clues, Will lives with that evil within him. The blank white wall motif that defines Hannibal recurs throughout the film to also include Dollarhyde in the parallel. And there are unique parallels (or opposite differences) between Will and Dollarhyde as well, the emptiness, the romantic longing, told through visual motifs, framing, colors, whereas there are no visual or thematic links between Clarice and Buffalo Bill (and Hannibal), it's all empty cartoonish scenery-chewing horror with no psychological depth or cinematic vision. Another obvious touch is how Mann frames Will as if he is himself behind prison bars, himself a jailed criminal.

Again, more blatant symbolism, but it's also very effective at saying things about the characters without exposition, in a way that you feel, perhaps unconsciously and not fully realizing it, rather than you're told about.

It's a screenshot, yes, that can fuck things up, but I had to set my shit to max brightness and only then can I make out Dolarhyde. And the jacket just washes into the blood. Maybe that's what they were going for, but it's still an ugly, cluttered shot.

Whoever studios get to do the colour grading definitely don't know what their doing but fault also lies with cinematographers/lighting/outfits. Hollywood has gone to shit man. It's like there's barley any skilled tradesmen left