The Dark knight > Joker

The Dark knight > Joker

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>evaluating evil
it's almost like this Joker isn't evil at all

Completely agree, the movie was MISERABLE, drab and pathetic.

it's kinda funny he says that cause Hiroaki Hirata who dubbed over Joaquin Phoenix's Joker was in one of his GITS movies.

>he thinks Joker was meant to be evil in Joker
Yeah no wonder Japanese people need mountains of exposition in anime. Maybe if there was a scene where a character goes "whoa... maybe Joker wasn't so evil after all" then he'd get it.

>he thinks Joker isn't meant to be evil

>systemic failure of society to care about its citizens' mental wellbeing
>unlucky

oof now that's a bad take

I'm just imagining a Japanese person trying to pronounce Joaquin Phoenix

He's not in the Joker movie.

Chinks lack any sense of compassion, they just think of each other as animals.

Not in Joker, no.

As if a jap knows anything anyways

How a jap scene works

>something happens that is rather obvious but hey maybe you missed it
>side character explains what happens for 1 minute for every 5 seconds of “happening”

joker was fucking shit

even suicide squad is better than that jewish crap

They should have had Joker's real dad be a ghost explaining everything happening in the movie for the Japanese release.

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Joe King Feenus

Oshii has based tastes in /lit/ so I trust his opinion on this.

JO AH KAWINU FO EH NIKUSU

That's only the anime though, right? I've not seen a lot of Japanese movies but the ones I have* weren't like this.

*Shoplifters, Tokyo Story, Rashomon, Woman of the Dunes, Visitor Q, Suicide Club, Ichi the Killer, Gozu, maybe some others.

Good thing Mamoru Oshii is clearly not a Chinese name.

The Joker never was supposed to be a Stan Lee type tragic villain, you stupid fuck
He's a happy sadist, not fuelled by sorrow or hate
The Phoenix movie as ruined the character forever

Yeah but this is the guy who did Angel’s Egg and Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence.

Chinks = asian

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Inherently wrong take then, most of Japanese media is about frinedship, compassion, growth and pain. Good Chinese movies as well, their society is fucked tho I agree.

god you're dumb

>I don't have an actual argument or personality
>Quick, I'll project that these people consume a type of plant based beverage
This is getting pathetic.

>out of intelligence comes evil

he's obviously never browsed 4chins

but in all honestly what a dumb way to evaluate a subjective concept, i bet he probably says this because in his mind he's truly intelligent and therefore truly evil like some retard who wastes his time rigging boats to explode

*tips fedora in your direction* fuck japan

Even looking through Oshii’s filmography pretty much proves that wrong. He’s arguably a creative descendant from Japanese New Wave.

Basado desu ne

What is this idiot babbling about?

Nobody asked some sushi chef's opinion though

Basado en que?

He's not a Sushi chef, he's a movie director. On that wave, nobody asked for your opinion on this thread either.

>asian man
Why don't you stick to your hentai and kung fu movies, guy.

Kung Fu is Chinese

Based. Did you translate Princess mononoke?

Based. Wushu is cooler anyways.

And Karate trumps both.

The Japanese can't admit it when their society has problems, they have to sweep it under the rug and pretend it's just the failings of an individual even if it is widespread with many cases. It's a shame thing or something, idk.

Im not talking about media or whatever. As a race they are fucking subhumans with no relation to ordinary people and their opinions should thus not be taken seriously

If I have to sit through more than half of the movie watching the protagonist fuck up, then sure. Fine. As long as it's entertaining and leads to a decent payoff in the end. I'd rather have a bumbling hero rather than a clumsy villain for most of the film.

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then he isn't Joker

Same shit and you know it idiot

COVID Summer never ends.

Shut up, limp-dicked asian manlet

The movie was miserable and drab, but only the character was pathetic.

Nolan's Joker is almost like a character in Dr Mabuse the Gambler or something... he's like a "Knower" rather than a Jokester
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Ad hominem attacks are Yas Forums's bread and butter unfortunately.

>then he isn't joker

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Wah Keen Fee Nex Ew

Japanese were criticising their society in film since the 40s. Watch Kawashima.

itt; ledger's ghost, seething

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The fact that you think you can bait me shows me who the real idiot is.

>onions Joker is the new status quo cause the Joaquin Phoenix movie told me so
>argument

>citizens brainwashed into importing immigrants to boost corporate profits
>muh system is failing, fuck white people
Dumb, irresponsible citizens are the problem

Yes, and upon this great epiphany, you will now be able to enjoy the film

Posted by the fag who prefers "relatable" soi Joker over the original, how fucking ironic

If they portray those things in media as good it means they have good morals. If you portray sadness, friendship and respect it means you understand it's good. The Japanese in this case. I'm sure the Chinese, despite the cherry picked webms in rekt threads, also have plenty of good people. Humans aren't inherently evil, you just spend too much time on Yas Forums so you've become too cynical and jaded. I recommend a girlfriend and friends. Stay safe user, life gets better.

That was my first reply to you, I never even mentioned the Joker, it just saddens me that the level of discourse by most people here is copycatting soiboi and wojaks. Be better.