I unironically love the Anakin and Obi Wan duel on mustafar
It’s exactly what I imagine a fight to the death between two superpowered swordsmen with a shared deep history would be
Do people really think it’s too long and badly choreographed?
I unironically love the Anakin and Obi Wan duel on mustafar
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Jayden Sanders
>when anakin smashes the controls for the shield and obi wan doesnt kill him even though his saber is on the other side of Anakin’s
>Obi wan doesnt force push Anakin when he jumps onto the hovercraft
Charles Nguyen
no it's pure kino
battle of the heroes is the greatest track in the franchise and the last part of revenge of the sith is some of the best cinema ever recorded
Josiah Morris
Yeah, it looks like the goal of each character is to hit the other person's lightsaber, not the other person. All swordfights on tv do this to an extent because of how fight scenes are choreographed, but some are better at hiding it than others. Both the Prequels and the ST do a poor job.
Samuel Cox
There is an autist on YouTube who did a frame by frame analysis of the fight.
The entire fight was on point with only like two-three moments where they were clearly only aiming for their swords
Benjamin Ortiz
N-NO WTF CINEMA SINS SAID THE FIGHT SUCKED
Hudson Gray
>Slow as Obi-Wan spin stands in your way
>Luke repeatedly hitting Vaders sword while he barerly do anything and falls over stand in your way
Because the OT fights were peak choreography right?
Sebastian Hill
I don't think it's badly choreographed, but I do think it goes on too long. All the stuff in the control room, even the things people complain about like the part where they're moving too fast for their sabers to connect, is pure kino. After they leave the choreography feels lackluster.
What's everyone's favorite saber battle? Empire will always be my favorite, but I think the Maul fight in TPM had the coolest choreography of any of the film duels. I was never a fan of either Yoda fight.
Adrian Evans
wait what
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Adam Ross
What's this gaslighting revisionist history shit? What the fuck are all those stupid overhead, side-to-side strikes that Anakin spams on repeat? The choreography is laughable.
Levi Morris
Yes. It's superfluous and ridiculous. The prequel fights in general were trash.
Cooper Carter
>Do people really think it’s too long and badly choreographed?
No, the prequels had solid fight choreography as a whole. The few missteps can be attributed to character quirks like Obi-Wan not wanting to kill his best friend.
Nathan Lopez
Anakin should've won, saved Padme, killed P*lpatine and ruled the galaxy with an iron fist.
James Sullivan
the duel was shit because there was no tension. everyone knew they would both survive.
Justin Brooks
Yes. All that over the top video game bullshit only for it all to end on small hill near a river of lava. The whole fight could have been five minutes right there. The whole point is Obi Wan defeats Anakin and leaves him.
Evan Lewis
James Carter
The less said about the ANH fight the better. The lightsaber props were very fragile, David Prowse couldn't see a thing in his helmet, and Alec Guinness didn't want to be there. The ROTJ fight was pure kino though. At that point, Vader had pretty much lost the fight and was trying his hardest to not get sliced open, and Luke had gone berserk and was venting his rage. It's good choreography.
Lincoln Sullivan
can we talk about the whole "IT'S OVER ANAKIN, I HAVE THE UPPER GROUND!" thing? It's fucking retarded and I'm surprised we've come to grow accustomed to take it as acceptable.
Julian Perry
Joseph Baker
Jeremy will say anything that isn't under the disney label sucks.
Guy goes easy on all their movies, and doesn't add obvious sins that would landed multiple in any other film
Hunter Sanders
Jose Gutierrez
>REDDIT LETTER MEDIA
>CINEMASINS
>OT GROGNARDS
>UNDERAGE MEME ABUSERS/SHEEPLE
All certifiably BTFO
Austin Adams
it's a way of showing how cocky is anakin and also to show obi not wanting to kill him
Camden Walker
How could Palpatine not remotely pick up that Anakin was gonna kill him?
Austin Walker
except it makes sense for obi wan to hold back, fag
Nathan King
Fuck Yeah Bruh! Nu-Starwars Cant Compete!
Asher Peterson
He’s right. Anakin has to leap towards a stationary target. How hard is it to to smack something moving in one direction with limited range? Anakin took the bait and he couldn’t defend himself mid air.
Leo Ross
No, they were peak story telling. Something none of the prequel fights can even remotely touch.
Obi Wan vs Vader in ANH is one of the shittiest sword fights in the history of popular film. But the smile Ben gives when he sees Luke has more heart and soul than anything in any prequel/sequel/children's cartoon/shitty EU book.
Brandon Myers
who knows, the entire point of the sith religion is to betray each other for some reason
Levi Jones
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Aiden Anderson
Why does Anakin?
Alexander King
I know that. I mean he should have sensed it the second he began to move. You'd think the guy who constantly clouded the vision of the Jedi could see this coming.
Ryan Wood
>Anakin had to leap...
No, he didn't he could have just taken the lower ground of the bank and he would have been at an advantage, in a real sword fight.
It doesn't make sense for Obi-wan to say such a thing to begin with. It makes no sense.
Chase Myers
The problem is it has zero suspense, its just them swinging wildly until obi wan tells the audience something will finally happen if anakin jumps. It doesn't feel like a deadly fight as theirs zero emotions, zero hesitation, zero reaction, its like two compléter opponents going through the motions. The swinging on ropes and standing on droids was also fucking dumb.
The actual sword striking isn't that bad, it's the pacing and tempo that's a complete mess.
Levi Turner
???
Levi Johnson
It's ludo-kino. You're too much of a normalfag to understand the delicate threading of that movie.
Gavin Nguyen
I fucking hate that there's clearly a large section cut out of the middle, and the fact that Lucas was so goddamn on the nose he had to end it that idiotically
Connor Perez
it's a good fight scene, just poorly filmed and edited
Jacob White
>It doesn't make sense for Obi-wan to say such a thing to begin with. It makes no sense.
he wanted anakin to stop fighting and make him see that is fruitless to continue
>anakin, i have an advantage and i can kill you if you continue
>nah fuck you i'm jumping
>don't try it
Carson Powell
He wasn't omnipotent and jedi/sith can't just passively read the minds of everyone around them all the time, he thought he had anakin completely subdued which was fair enough since anakin had never once opposed him and had been blindly loyal.
Mason Clark
*fucked Padme while she was still out cold
Aiden Gomez
good game
Cooper Wood
>anakin, i have an advantage and i can kill you if you continue
I'm afraid you aren't able to read. I'll say it again. Obi-wan didn't have an advantage.
Asher Johnson
What does that even mean?
Jeremiah Nelson
What part of "Send me to kill the Emperor. I will not kill Anakin" was unclear to you?
Samuel Stewart
no
Charles Wright
There are strong parallels between Othello smothering Desdemona with a pillow and Anakin choking Padme.
Leo Young
It means "I know the prequels are shit, but I have to convince myself that I like them to be contrarian."
Noah Russell
>It doesn't make sense for Obi-wan to say such a thing to begin with. It makes no sense.
Conceptually it was fine. That anakin had become blinded by pride and overcome a disadvantage, and obi want was warning him because he did want to hurt anakin (why he decide to cut of 3 of his fucking limbs is another thing...)
The problem is, as always with lucas, the execution. Lucas had clearly wanted this situation, thought to himself "what's a situation where anakins reckless leads to his defeat", and a little hill and some lava was the best he could come up with. Yes it's stupid and has been mocked relentlessly on here.
Easton Flores
i actually like the fights in Nu wars. it's one of the things they did much better than the prequels. sabers looked like they had weight and were dangerous, characters looked like they were out to kill each other.
Jaxson Garcia
Hé could have just lopped of a limb like he ends up doing.