Was Chuck right about Jimmy all along?

Was Chuck right about Jimmy all along?

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HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUN ROOF

Yes, but the chicanery got to him

I hope a chimpanzee with a machine gun is what kills lalo in the end

Yes, but Chuck is responsible for it.

Chuck was also a severely mentally ill sociopath

The first 2 seasons clearly explains how Jimmy spent the first 30 years of his life as a delinquent criminal and Chuck gave him a 2nd chance at life. I bet you're the kind of person who enables people who only blame others for their self-created problems.

Jimmy and Chuck both overreacted the lack of a strong father figure: Chuck went strait Lawful Neutral and Jimmy went Chaotic Neutral.

Neither Chuck nor Jimmy are ok with real Evil stuff.

I'm actually surprised how many people think it's a dichotomy. Both Chuck and Jimmy are dysfunctional. I think the only thing worse than chuckfags are jimmyfags who unironically believe anything jimmy did wrong is all chuck's fault.

I bet you're the kind of person who would let some one defecate through your sunroof and not have the goddamn courtesy to give him a reach around

Yes. It's the point of the entire show. Chuck was mentally ill, obsessive and pathologically jealous, but he did understand his brother better than anyone. He knew that once Jimmy got one sliver of power he couldn't resist abusing it. The tragedy is that it was only Jimmy's respect for Chuck that ever kept him off the criminal path, respect he lost because of Chucks desperate attempts to keep Jimmy from following in his footsteps.

he was just analmad that jimmy was a better lawyer than him without even trying

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>using scumbag tricks and provide service to lowlife criminals
>better lawyer than chuck who built hmm

take your pills

>t. jealous autistic geezer who can't accept that someone is better than him
where is your space blanket?

Yeah, and once Jimmy managed to put himself through law school while working in a mail room, Chuck should've supported his brother. He didn't. He looked down on him and made him feel inferior because Chuck was such a god damn beta he couldn't handle that Jimmy not only managed to be more liked by practically everybody, but actually managed to get a degree in law. Even if the university was shady, it was still a massive accomplishment passing the bar. If Chuck had've embraced Jimmy, Jimmy probably would have turned his life around to some degree. But the point of his character I guess is that no matter what, he was always going to be flexible morally. Chuck certainly didn't help by being such a massive twat though.

Saying "anything Jimmy did wrong is all Chuck's fault" is true, yes, but I think it's obvious that he plays a part in it, at least later on in life.

he was not better, he just did things the wrong way, which pissed of chuck, who was super autistic but good at his job

Chuck sent Jimmy down the wrong path, denied doing so, and then pat himself on the back for trying to prevent it. He was always jealous of his brother, and his law degree and prestigious firm convinced him that he was in some way superior. But when Jimmy was able to become a lawyer, Chuck had nothing to prop up his self-image and lost his fucking mind.

yes, but he did nothing to prevent it, he was a piece of shit with no empathy

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You missed the entire point. Jimmy had charisma and a style of out of the box thinking that Chuck knew he could never achieve.

it was a selfling prophecy

that is not what makes a good lawyer

Wanting to get Chuck's respect was the only reason Jimmy wanted to be a good lawyer in the first place. If Chuck was more encouraging instead of being jealous, Jimmy would have gone down a better path.

> anything jimmy did wrong is chuck's fault both retroactively and after jimmy started to succeed on his own
This is how dysfunctional people think in real life. No agency, all blame.

It is, brainlet. It's not all about memorizing laws. You need to know your way around them and how to exploit them to meet your needs. Jimmy is a good public speaker and persuader, which is good for convincing the judge and jury to be on his side.

I don't remember. I lived with my fucking mom 5 years ago when the last season with Chuck aired.

>Chuck gave him a 2nd chance at life
Chuck used Jimmy's plight to trap him and control him. He was fine with Jimmy being in the mail room, but once Jimmy started to improve himself, Chuck did everything he could to slap him back down, and then assfuck him later. Chuck was an overbearing, self-proclaimed martyr cunt. Chuck offered Jimmy a job more to protect his reputation than to help Jimmy. There was no empathy or compassion in anything Chuck did, ever, it was all to service his ego. Jimmy still loved his brother, and helped and cared for him long after he should have cut his losses and let him rot in his electricity-free house, but he didn't. Chuck turned his back on Jimmy, every time. manipulated him, lied to him, and abused him - and then had the righteous fury of a fraud who discovered he got defrauded, because Jimmy cannot be smarter than him, ever.

That's how well written the characters are, that people have strong opinions of them. Gilligan and the writers knows dysfunctional families, his shows are perfect studies of fucked up families and people.

What the fuck is a "selfling prophecy"?

I will only watch the rest of this show if Chuck dies in an excruciating fashion

>that is not what makes a good lawyer
Trial law is 80% personality, supported by a legal team who are 80% paperwork.

Jimmy never read Machiavelli.

The ends do not justify the means. Your spirit (or "mental health" if you're pedantic) suffers whenever you do evil for some perceived good. The truth will always catch up with you. Good is the nature of our universe. BCS is a very subtly optimistic show, just like Breaking Bad.

To be fair to Chuck, Jimmy was an absolute bottom feeding degenerate and delinquent for most of his life. To see Jimmy in a position where he could control other people's lives must have been terrifying to him.

>He didn't.

He didn't because he knew what Jimmy would do with a law degree and that's precisely what Jimmy did.
It was all about finding new ways to scam people and run games. Not about the law or justice. Chuck knew that.

Jimmy on the other hand is MASSIVELY at fault for not going to practice law in another city, far from Chuck. There he could've been his own person etc etc...

why did Chuck kill himself?

He felt he lost

Chuck was a good man. Jimmy is a piece of shit.

>delinquent criminal
not really. most of what he did was just some simple misdemeanors and innocent banter. what got him into jail was shitting in some guy's car because that guy fucked his wife or something. they were rough on him because there were children in the car

>He didn't because he knew what Jimmy would do with a law degree and that's precisely what Jimmy did.
Self fufilling prophecy. If Chuck had supported his brother's career as a lawyer from the start he wouldn't have turned into Saul Goodman.