>“Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
if you think jon snow isn't the most cliche, generic protagonist in fantasy books idk what to tell you MUH MAGIC SWORD MUH HIDDEN NOBLE ANCESTRY MUH PROPHECY MUH BROODING martin thinks he's above tropes but he's just a hack
Daniel Reyes
He's such a prick, and is emblematic of the faggoty "too good for sincerity and classic storytelling techniques" attitude that ruins nearly anything that comes out on a streaming platform
John Morris
Talk to me when you finish the series you fat cunt. Feast was shit by the way and it's filled with tax policy tripe. Your prose is terrible, maybe you should read Tolkien and pick up a few things.
Evan Lopez
Gurm is a nerd's nerd, and that's a good and a bad thing at the same time. Someone begins a fairy tale with "once upon a time in a faraway kingdom" and ends it with "and they lived happily ever after" and most normal well adjusted people just leave it at that. A nerd, a real old school nerd like the fat man would butt in and start asking pendantic questions like "what kind of kingdom is it? An elective monarchy or a Prussian military dictatorship? How is succession determined in this kingdom?" Nerds of that sort miss the point of everything because they have a compulsive and obnoxious need to be the smartest ass in the room.
Joseph Davis
It wasn't his sword and there were many like it. Targs were trash. Everyone in those books had a prophecy. Ned brooder more than anyone. They called him Ned the Brooder.
Atleast Tolkien finished his series before he cashed in and became selfimportant you draftdodging lardass
Levi Diaz
>Ironic contrarian fatman Do you think he posts here?
Parker Baker
you're in denial, jon snow (lol that fucking name even) is a neckbeard jerk-off fantasy he might as well have a katana and wear a trench coat all martin did was take tolkien and say 'no mom, I WON'T clean my room' and thinks he gave an 'answer'
I can't say because I haven't read them but isn't he a lot different in the books? I could see the show hyping him up to be way more of a cliche hero especially in the later seasons.
Leo Hernandez
>"It's supposed to be shit!" Wew lad.
Liam Fisher
>Consoom more and you'll see the light No thanks.
Nolan Phillips
>What was Aragorn’s tax policy?
Libertarian
Did he maintain a standing army?
Yes, the largest in middle earth by far, with a budget larger than the next 9 largest powers combined.
>What did he do in times of flood and famine?
Gondorian FEMA and emergency funding for the affevted areas.
>And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
Yes, especially the babies.
Next up let me tell you about Aragorns "Gondor First" immigration policy.
Justin Ross
>rips off British history, barely changing the names(Lancaster, York’s, Black dinner, war of the roses(literally making the rose house the enemy of the lancasters)) >makes the most generic characters ever: Broken sage, anime Loli assassin, muh honor and self-insert black sheep of the family with a secret destiny and magic sword
Carter Watson
>muh tax policy GRRM completely fucks up on military logistics whereas Tolkien actually paid attention to it.
Blake Taylor
And added some rip-roaring adventures. Now that's how you write a series of books!
GRRM writes coomer pulp ficton. Blame the audience, not the writer.
Cameron Hill
This fat fuck is a symbol of all the stunted nerds that produce our entertainment, Tolkien’s story about morality, duty, and responsibilities of his characters is more mature than this bloated corpse of fandom, whose understanding of adulthood comes down to tax policy and sex, the typical product of a libertarian mindset, is it surprising that he occupies more space than necessary in New Mexico, which also produced the Libertarian retard Gary Johnson. And to go on saying that this is his “answer” to Tolkien as if this fatso addicted to eating could come up with anything worthwhile to say about real life from in between his food coma. And with that I have to ask, what’s George RR Martin’s diet? Did Martin pursue a systematic genocide of McGriddles? Even the little baby fries in their Happy Meals?
Isaiah Rogers
To be honest, GRRM's best scene is the Tower of Joy. >likable protagonist Ned is stacked up against Ser Arthur Dayne who is pretty much ASOIAF's paladin >both sides are comprised of upstanding men who are forced to fight each other over conflicting bonds It is genuinely a great tragedy all contained within the first part of a single chapter.
Matthew Collins
this. I'm not even joking. nothing in the lord of the rings feels real. "bro lets give the orcs that kidnapped out friends a head start by singing for 8 pages lol" and the silmarillion is just painful. most of it is just "and then Manway said to Glogdon that they should invite Smoogee over for dinner but then Melkor did talk for many days about muh pretty gems... then Findom spoke with Finway for many hours until much battle was in with Melkor for many days. then once Melkor kicks it your left with the biggest failure in the universe Sauron. turns out he isn't a threat at all in the Lord of the rings. He tried to take over the world like 8 times and each time he some how fucks it up. legit its just fucking dreadful. at least we now Know why no-one really cares about Sauron. even if he did get the ring i'd some how fuck it up before the weekend comes around.
not really, everything goes to shit in Westeros when taxes don't have to be paid
Jonathan Wood
I ADMIRE TOLKIEN, I DO
Cooper King
>What was Aragorn’s tax policy? No taxes >Did he maintain a standing army? Yes >What did he do in times of flood and famine? Divert floods, feed the starving >And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles? Yes
We know this, because Aragorn was wise and good.
Fucking brainlet.
Camden Adams
>where’s westeros >west of Essos >okay and what’s south of that? >Southyros
Uh... okay..
Austin Thomas
Westeros has been ruled by the same family for 300 years. it seems like due to the Normans (Andals) taking over the place the languages in Westeros would just be various dialect of the same language then when the Targs took over they just all melted together.
More of this 'muh 'GURM hates Tolkien!' meme. > “When I finished Fellowship of the Ring, it was the only volume out in paperback. I had to wait for Ace to bring out The Two Towers, and again for The Return of the King. Not a long wait, admittedly, but somehow it seemed like decades. The moment I got my hands on the next volume, I put everything else aside so I could read it, but halfway through The Return of the King, I slowed down. Only a few hundred pages remained, and once they were done, I would never be able to read The Lord of the Rings for the first time again. As much as I wanted to know how it all came out, I did not want the experience to be over - that was how fiercely I loved those books... as a reader.
>As a writer, however, I was seriously daunted by Tolkien. When I read Robert E. Howard, I would think, "Someday I may be able to write as well as him, " and when I read Lynn Carter or John Jakes, I would think, "I can write better stuff than this right now!" But when I read Tolkien, I despaired. "I will NEVER be able to do what he's done," I would think. "I will never be able to come close.” ― George R.R. Martin, The Complete Dreamsongs
Levi Martin
>admire >quibble why does everyone ignore these words
Joshua Harris
Yeah, I hate that they did Dawn dirty. I don't even want the sword to be relevant in the book plot because that would betray its symbolism.
Chase Garcia
*was
Ian Parker
The ending for the books will be shit and unsatisfying yet GRRM fags will still defend it >"Of course it's shit, having a good and cohesive ending wouldn't be REALISTIC!"
You haven't read the books, have you? You've merely formed a firm opinion based on what you've gleamed via cultural osmosis about the books due to the telly series (which is a shit adaption, and has been since season 1) and autistic Yas Forums memes.
Josiah Clark
no one cares you faggot virgins go have sex with a guy you fucking faggots and get off my board
Wyatt Morales
while he may be correct that ruling is difficult, however he is hung up on the formula, when he should very well understand a "good ruler" is a random concoction of everything going correctly. his quibble with Tolkein is about looking at ruling from the inside trying to live in good times, instead of the more timeless standpoint, looking at ruling from the outside in bad times; a good king is in hindsight a mere cornerstone in the relativity of socioeconomic prosperity.
Joseph Morgan
When the Normans took over, the rich spoke French, but the poor continued to speak English However the English spoken by the poor had a lot of French words inserted into it during this time
Mason Rogers
Only puddinghead show faggots think the ending is what's important.
Colton Harris
wrong, I read all 5 in High School, but luckily I’ve matured out of that
Adrian Long
Middle earth isn’t the real name though and it’s jus as imaginative as “earth”
Leo Adams
That's only damage control.
Sebastian Watson
btw in real life we name things after the directions on the compass all the time. we just do it in Latin
Undoubtedly the show was shit well before that but they fucked that scene in particular since it was still one of the scenes directly out of the books.
Henry Davis
I mean yeah the War of the Roses had great political depth
Dylan Allen
That's not my point
Sebastian Barnes
damage control. lol people shit or GRRM for this shit but Tolkcucks just go seethe about it baka
And what is so odious about them? You reduce the whole series down to taxes and sex (in other words, fucking memes about the series) which is totally incongruent with themes actually present in the series such as religion, war, legacy, family, and, yes, duty and responsibility that we find also find present LotR that you venerated in that post of yours.
>like my gf Her ass is too big for the rest of her body otherwise aesthetically shes pleasing, but taking into account the state of her room and the fact that she poses like a thot im gonna say you can do better
Bentley Edwards
Tom Bombadil >old midget statuatory raping a mentally retarded elf loli in the forest and singing and dancing all day also btfos Sauron
Tyler Rogers
>M-my erotica has really deep themes!
Ethan Flores
You seriously have to be a stunted autist to get into this stupid Tolkien vs. GRRM mindset as it if its like the console wars and then raging like a faggot when your equally autistic and faggoty opponent comes back at you with a 'ACKCHYUALLY, author X took inspiration for this real life myth/event/whatever, so he's the hack!'
Brody Barnes
>But when I read Tolkien, I despaired. "I will NEVER be able to do what he's done
And he was right
Ayden Price
The first chapter of every main character has them getting raped or fondled or fucked or watching someone die.
The entire series is death and sex.
Adam Lewis
>the apex of anti-GRRM autists You haven't read the books, you're simply going off of memes and cultural osmosis and the deep end and are probably baiting me with intentionally stupid, crass posts.
