Once upon a time in America

what a bloated and convoluted mess of a movie, and yes I saw the full version

youtube.com/watch?v=ANU2FqM7HeA
Imagine a scene like this today

Opium feels great. It makes your sense more aware. I much more prefer it to weed

he was crazy

False. You forgot this scene:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLNzw7gihs

True.

The clip of Noodles in the opium den which ends the movie is of 20s-30s Noodles not the one in his 60s

Either the clip of him in the den smiling while stoned at the end of the movie means that everything after the ambush is a dream or its real but Noodles didn't really accomplish anything and by not shooting Max and his "happy ending" is just as delusional as him being high on opium after having his friends killed

He knew that they couldn't keep pulling the same heists. Sooner or later they'd be busted, so he decided it was time to fend for himself. He told Noodles he was going to rob the Federal Reserve so that Noodles would think he was insane (rightfully so) and call the cops to bust them. Max had an in with the Police, and while he got out, he staged a burnt corpse to take his place in the line up of dead bodies (so that Noodles would leave for Buffalo)
Max took up a new identity and went up the ranks of politics until he became US Secretary of Commerce Bailey. When it was all falling apart for him (due to his scandals catching up with him) he tells Noodles to come back to town, setting himself up for his murder. Max was the mastermind of greedy jews.

I still don't get the garbage truck scene desu.

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Its supposed to be like Hoffa where you know but you dont know. They even used James Woods stand in for that scene even tho Woods was on set.

when imdb forums were still around like every other thread on this film theorized if max and noodles were gay

>Max and Noodles lose their virginity to the same whore at the same time
>when Noodles gets out of prison, Max offers him a whore while he's next to him
>Noodles rapes the bank girl, she mistakenly believes it was Max and then dates him
>Max ends up giving a child to Deborah despite not loving her, Deborah ends up with Max despise despising him because he's the closest thing to Noodles
Similar triangular relationship pattern in Duck You Sucker to imply homoerotic subtext

It's kind of a classic, cliché way to imply homoeroticism, they can't be gay so they have to share the same women to feel closer, a sexual connection through menage a trois. I remember seeing a similar threesome scene in that edgy soap opera Nip Tuck with the woman just used a body between the two guys, which was written by a gay man, it's a conscious trope. Cimino's Heaven's Gate's a bit similar to Leone and also has that sort of pattern. I also find it interesting how Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is clearly inspired by Leone (like the ambush in the coffee shop) and has similar undertones, with the ending scene being a 1:1 copy of the flashback from DYS. Even if it's never overt, there's an exceptionally strong male bond, a strong love, between the dual characters in these movies. That's why the betrayal, and the following guilt or revenge, the melancholia, feel so powerful. OUATIA is absolutely a love story.

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every film had an imdb forum thread dedicated to asking whether one of the male characters was gay
there was a fucking thread on five easy pieces asking if nicholson's character was gay because the OP said there was hidden penis symbolism and nicholson's character yearned for a father or an older male

what was better, the imdb forums or Yas Forums?

I preferred imdb, would find about some interesting movies through it

*RIIIIIIIIIIIING*

What about the murder scene at the start?

Imdb undoubtedly like you even need to ask. You could watch some obscure 70s movie and have a question about it and visit imdb and thered probably have been someone over the last decade discussing it.

Sure you can call someone a faggot here but that's it

With Noodles new girlfriend? Noodles either imagined it like he did everything else or it actually did happen. Really up to you.

why did they even close down the forums

Cate Blanchett gets shot in this movie and smokes opium in Morocco
youtu.be/gzrHrTVaqJs?t=32

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its a metaphor for the slumbering American dream, an ideal that would lay dormant and not be fully realised until decades after this film originally premiered. when a certain Donald J Trump would be the one to shake the working man out of his stupor in order to fully realise a nations true potential

Because of Yas Forumstards.
No really, there was an influx of extreme right wing/nazi posting and imdb didn't want to spend money moderating the forums, so they just killed them completely.

why did the jew he rape women every chance he got?