Kinos about growing up to be just like your father?

Kinos about growing up to be just like your father?

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That animation is so soulless

Super is neither kino, nor canon

Take your horse shit to

It is though

Death of author

YEAH WE GOT SNEED TO POST!

>director, producer, and voice actors all Yuro or Murrican names
>proceeds to list billion Korean guys who did all the animation work
That's my problem with modern cartoons

It's not. No more or less than GT is. Tell me, can you name one protagonist in Super who dies? Cause it takes the suspense out of everything when the main characters have no actual mortal risk in a fucking show about fighting

Reread what you just said faggot. As if people who die in Z don't come back. Stop talking about shit you know nothing about.

Why don't you critically think about the word DIE. It means, at one point in your lifespan, YOURE FUCKING DEAD

Name one DB protagonist EVER who permanently died

>short holiday on king Kai's planet
>"death"

Dumb fucking retard

Kneel

Cell.

Bardock

Now name one person in Super who even died in the first place to BE resurrected you massive faggot

Being brought back to life ruins your argument. Death loses its meaning when youre just brought back.

And in super in the black arc everyone gets killed. Bulma even gets killed on screen.

>Durr that's a different timeline it doesn't count

Don't cherry pick your arguments

>already has a bazillion transformations
>can turn super saiyan 1 in his sleep at this point
>still makes the SSJ transformation hype

I miss when SSJ was a big deal

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So when goku is first killed and gohan has to train with picollo to fight the saiyans that's not suspenseful? Conversely, Vegeta using a technique in Super that fucking KILLED HIM THE FIRST TIME when fighting buu does nothing the second time is some grand suspense? Fuck off.

You don't like S cells? You don't like super Saiyan being overly explained? You don't like that you're able to go super Saiyan by focusing on a tingle on your back? You don't like how caulifla can just go super Saiyan 2 just because she tried once?

user get real

What the fuck does any of that have to do with what is and isn't canon

Just because no one died doesn't make it not canon faggot you make no sense.

Nice goal-shifting moron. We were arguing about dying but I can see why you feel the need to change to the other point when proven wrong. Well done

Antagonist not protagonist

Minor character who appeared 5 seconds in the show

They say they'll wish Goku back same episode he dies, retard.

Name one time anyone even dies to be brought back in Super that isn't "hurrrrr universe X through X" See the difference now? No risk, no suspense. Who wants to watch something where no one has any risk of dying to be brought back by the same plot device present throughout every other part of any series of the show. I'll wait.

I'm no moving goal posts. You are, your argument about death has absolutely no effect on what is and isn't canon.

And there's suspense in super. Rishi almost died, Vegeta almost died, entire universes were being wiped out with likable characters. Everyone from Hit and Cabbas universe were fucking killed. They were all main characters in super. There's your example now fuck off

You can't cherry pick deaths faggot. Entire universes died in the ToP. If you think there's any real stakes with death in d

I mentioned canon once in my original post. That's cute though so I'll bite. You know what makes something canon? When the writing isn't completely predictable and garbage. When arbitrary shit like 10 transformations that become meaningless one after another are introduced. When the dialogue isn't something you would use instead of toilet paper. When writing and plot that have real and tangible meaning become arbitrary because Akira Toriyama needs more in his 401k. You probably think SW VII-IX are canon to you human trashbag.

He defeated a GoD so he has redeemed himself. He also has the better son.

>A universe suddenly dispersal with a bunch of characters that had no bearing on 3 series' worth of original characters
NOOOO NOT MY UNIVERSERINOS NOT HIT

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You cock swallowing faggot, it doesn't matter if you like it or not, what's canon is canon.

Then go buy your Rey poster you little bitch

>Give me an example of anyone who died in super
>N-no not that one!

super saiyan 4 > super sayin rainbow colors.
golden great ape form alone is better than anything in super! fight me!

Why're you bringing up star wars? I don't like super that much either but I'm not a child who struts around going "o don't like it therefore it isn't real"

Oh wow bro I apologize. I know how much you would have rather seen Kefla magically disappear than have DIED in a FIGHT in a show about FIGHTING until you DIE

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>powered up form = turning Aryan

What did dbz mean by this?

Android 17 was thought to be dead from a fight for a long time before being shown to have survived. Roshi was thought to have died too.

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Vegetas. When will they learn bros.

Vegeta also. The point I'm trying to make is it would've been a much better show if they had actually died. Super was a fairytale compared to any other DB series. A non-stop fan-pushed circlejerk that didn't deliver.

what the fuck
is this achievable natty

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