Mainstream horror movies these days are either cookie cutter studio shit like Bird Box or Scary Stories to Tell in the...

The message is to seek human connection

It started when they began making horror movies PG-13.

Violent and bloody you r-tard

The chad Engels vs the virgin Aster

its about the dissolution of family ties and values and the following empowerment of women. literally cultural marxism: the movie.

>horror.
its not horror if i end up jacking off.

Scary Stories is a fucking kids movie. I got drunk and went to go see that by myself, was pretty shit.

US is a deeply conventional mainstream film
It absolutely doesn't fit the nu-horror mold.
It's straight up full of classic tropes and structured classically.

Even the whacky ideas in it that make no sense are classic horror tropes.

The only thing nu-horror about it, is the marketing.

>dissolution of family ties
The message is to work with your family, not against them. They lost sight of God and were banished.

Possession and Repulsion are good.

That wasn't really a cult. They had been living that way for centuries apparently. More like an uncontacted tribe than a cult.

>The message is to seek human connection
Thats kind of weak. To me it seemed way more about the situation those specific characters were in. Dude couldn't break up with her, so he suffered through it, resenting her for it, and she ended up murdering him. Pretty unconventional for a horror movie, but not preachy at all.

then you should watch things that aren't mainstream movies from the last 5 years

Not all change is bad doofus

Hmmm what could they possibly be getting at here

yes, in fact its a movie defending cooperation. first the dissolution of societal ties (banishment), then the dissolution of family ties (children blamed) all finally leading to the abandonment of your humanity (you become baby churning psychopath). who wins in the end? the coven working together. its a cautionary tale.

I'm going to have to rewatch this.

I liked Midsommar and I don't think it had or was trying to have a deep message. People think it must be deep (or pretentious) because it was arty, but basically it was just a well-made homage to The Wicker Man inspired by the director's breakup.

I made a thread about this a few months ago, but this movie made me physically angry.
One thing horror fags don't seem to realize these days is you can remove the loud obnoxious noise from a jump scare and use it to transfer to a new scene, or cut to a reaction from the character being scared. This tricks the mind in a much better way thanLOUD NOISES! OH SHIT

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Midsommar is barely a horror movie. The events have horror elements, but the core of it is melodrama. Most of the movies Ari Aster is influenced by aren't horror at all. So it makes sense why a hardcore horror fan might be dissapointed.

What's wrong with having a message if the movie is creepy and well made?

It's not melodrama, it's drama

>cookie cuter horror
>gross out stufff
>hey guys Vietnam bad also the latino guy is a charisma blackhole
I'm disappointed I had expectations for this.

I don't know that much about what the distinction is, but in interviews Ari Aster talked about how melodrama is about an unresolvable conflict between people that culminates in tragedy. This applies pretty strongly to all of his movies.

I legit know this retarded girl and she freaking loves horror films
My mom too but shes nice

Very few true horror films have ever been produced. Because something cannot truly terrorize you unless you are not expecting it.
Event Horizon is simply the best horror film ever made. It made itself out to be another space scifi on a starship. And it takes a left turn straight into hell.
It's the same reason 6th Sense is one of the greatest films ever made. And then every Shamalan film after has been mediocre at best. Because even if you didnt know the twist. You knew one was coming.

A story without a message is a waste of time.

How is Midsommar not a generic as fuck slasher flick?

Pretty sure i have seen movies about a group of assholes and retards acting illogical and dumb resulting in them being killed off one by one plenty of times before.

there's plenty of that out there

Yeah, Seven Samurai was a pretty garbage slasher flick too.

This.
Also there’s a massive trauma ( dead parents and sister) but when she does psychedelic drugs it doesn’t even come up. Opportunity very much missed.

>"Deep" and "Has a message"

How much of a brainlet do you have to be to not get that the horror genre is fundamentally about questioning what frightens us? It all has a fucking message if it's doing it even remotely right.

If all you want is some jump scare you could've just looked in the mirror, OP.

Maybe. But just because it can't be articulated it doesn't mean it isn't there. In fact, if you can clearly point to exactly what the message is, there is a good chance it is a shitty message

>when she does psychedelic drugs it doesn't even come up
It does, she has a panic attack and hallucinates her sister.

>Deep
>Has a message
>Us

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