Why have the chinks been unable to produce any kino for the past 25 years when they managed pretty well before that? Did they get too rich? Consequences of a post-cultural revolution generation of producers unable to grasp SOUL?
Pic related has to be one of the best propaganda movies I've seen.
Why have the chinks been unable to produce any kino for the past 25 years when they managed pretty well before that...
Josiah Young
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Bentley Campbell
pic related was pretty much the last time China produced a good movie yeah.
William Thompson
Mainland China has never produced anything but shit. Chinese kino always came out of Hong Kong.
Tyler Wood
This
Justin Thomas
their authoritarian totalitarian communist in name only government creates a culture that doesn't allow for the same amount of liberal degeneracy post modern bullshit of the arts required to produce film makers that make kino. that stuff only breeds in capitalist societies where people have freedom and access to such collections of libshit ideas promoted through the universities and existing culture.
Cooper Johnson
A girl from Hunan is pretty good though
Ryan Evans
I don't think this is true. It's just that the Chinese have a really shitty and outdated way of marketing their culture compared to Korea, Japan, even the US.
They always have entries into film competitions. But trying to track these down is a huge pain in the ass. There's clearly shit going on beneath the surface, but it's like they aren't aware that people outside their country might be interested in it. Either that or they just don't care.
Jonathan Martin
Totalitarian regimes destroy creativity and independent thought.
Cooper Wright
Explain why the SU pretty much invented kinography then?
David Long
Soviet filmmaking was pretty influential though
Brandon Sullivan
>Why have the chinks been unable to produce any kino for the past 25 years when they managed pretty well before that?
What you think of as Chink Kino was Hong Kong Kino. The Mainlanders never produced anything watchable.
As for why, well, let me help you young'in: 23 years ago, Britain returned ownership/control of Hong Kong to Mainland China and Hong Kong came under control of the CCP.
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Anything produced by China since then was done using HK talent.
Tyler Richardson
Exactly! Without the free market who would make all of my MCU movies and Funko Pops?!
Brayden Davis
>Mainlanders never produced anything watchable
The very first post ITT is a Mainland film you mongoloid.
Thomas Mitchell
>It's the WEST Focusing so hard on making MCU shit
Really, dude?
I said watchable.
Luis Wood
>tfw depressed
>tfw walking into a chinese theater hoping to catch Corona
Christopher Stewart
>mainland china has no good ki-
Jaxon Perry
>Pre-CCP
user, stop being disingenuous.
Joshua Baker
It's actually pretty decent, unless you're just trying to find reasons to shit on China. Which you are.
Elijah Ward
from the Wikipedia
>After the death of Stalin, Soviet filmmakers were given a freer hand to film what they believed audiences wanted to see in their film's characters and stories. The industry remained a part of the government and any material that was found politically offensive or undesirable, was either removed, edited, reshot, or shelved. The definition of "socialist realism" was liberalized to allow development of more human characters, but communism still had to remain uncriticized in its fundamentals. Additionally, the degree of relative artistic liberality was changed from administration to administration.
Lincoln Reed
This
Hong Kong cinema used to be awesome
I miss it
Thomas Sanders
Having a freer hand isn't the same as being completely free.
If anything, that quote shows just how involved the government was at all levels of film making. It's absolutely authoritarian.
Gabriel Thomas
>After the death of Stalin
That was released in 2017 idiot, the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore. The IQ of Yas Forums sometimes...
Gabriel Young
Well maybe the mainland Chinese just suck at making movies, Soviet Union film makers had a lot stacked against them but they still produce kino.
Easton Fisher
Are you dense? chinks are heavily indoctrinated since childhood, have barely any independent thought and even that little is constantly controlled. In socialist yurope you could do whatever you wanted that wasnt a)going over the border b)straight up critizing the government
t.person who lives in post socialist shithole
Joseph Davis
The Red Lantern is one of the 7 main model operas (yangbanxi) that were each painstakingly produced over the span of up to 15 years to spread the party's values. Mao's wife was heavily involved in their production and ensuring they promoted the right ideas to influence the people. China was actually super into mass media propaganda but used operas for a very long time due to technological limitations
The film in the op was wildly successful and PRC leadership thought it exemplified party values so it was actually recognized as an 8th yangbanxi and turned into an opera after the fact
So the reason nothing has topped them is that these are the results of literally the best of the best in their fields meticulously reiterating and improving the works over the span of decades. China largely stopped giving a shit about such things after's Mao's death in 76 and the subsequent almost perestroika level cultural shift
>t. studied NK and PRC mass media for a year in korea
Noah Butler
>had a lot stacked against them
It's way easier to make kino under the Soviet Ministry of Culture than it is to get studios to fund anything but capeshit
John Mitchell
Maybe nobody here has an accurate snapshot of what their film industry is actually like. It's clear that they make more than just the Great Wall or whatever that shit was, but very little actually makes it out of the country.
Jonathan Barnes
Everyone's indoctrinated, including people in the freest western countries. You don't think mass advertising influences your decision making? It's arrogant to act like you have some special clarity compared to anyone else.
If anything, the overt propagandizing that takes place in socialist shit holes makes the message easier to reject. Most Chinks know that their media is biased, most Americans still eat up their shit regardless.
Cooper Gonzalez
Didn't know that actually. Quality post.
Jonathan Evans
Because as much as they resent and plot against the West, their industry has been churning out nothing but Hollywood Dreck With Chinese Characteristics.
Jayden Taylor
t. cash my cheque
Hudson Long
HK used to be the ones who kept producing KINO but since they got taken over by China they put a stop to the film industry there by censoring and stopping everything that had the potential to be good.