What exactly did Sauron do wrong? It's never explained in the trilogy, he's simply presented as the "bad guy", what if he was the good guy after all?
What exactly did Sauron do wrong? It's never explained in the trilogy, he's simply presented as the "bad guy"...
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He tried to control everyone by tricking them with rings that actually made them subservient to him instead of granting the promised power.
He wanted freedom for his people. He wanted a world where people could live their lives without being oppressed by an old fool in a special chair. He was one of the good guys and they killed him. He was the noblest of them all. Sauron. We miss you dearly. Love you and I miss you.
He represents British imperialism, industrialization, capitalism devouring everything and threatening the good honest people
Gandalf was the real villian
Sounds like you expect every evil looking dude to be Darth Vader.
Hes literally satan
Do Tolkien orcs have reproductive organs? If so, they why don't they show them raping elves and villagers in every hole?
>balrogs save me
That's morgoth tho
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST EAT THE SILMARILS THAT I SO HARDLY STOLE FROM A DEFENSELESS AND DECREPIT OLD ELF
What's are babby's first literary criticism thoughts?
>What if the bad guy is actually the good guy?
>What if the whole thing is a dream?
>What if the whole thing is an allegory for my favorite pet topic?
He wanted to rule Middle-Earth himself.
The funny thing is, nothing really suggests he'd have been a bad ruler. We don't hear much about the men that aligned with Sauron, but we do know that some of them, the Easterlings, were a very refined and extremely prosperous civilization. He certainly knew how to inspire loyalty, for the men under Sauron fought to the last man at the Pelennor Fields and at the Morannon, even in the face of certain defeat, while the Orcs all fled.
Basically the Valar had decreed that Middle-Earth was to be ruled by the Dunedain to compensate for the loss of Numenor, so Sauron had to go.
True, Sauron was responsible for the sundering of Numenor in the first place, but that was due to a legitimate grudge.
Morgoth told the black numenoreans the elves were lying to them about immortality. The Lord of the Rings doesn't address many of Melkor's actual points for what he was doing.
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>name is sauron
>isn't a dinosaur
>name is sauron
>his best friend's name is sauronman
>ring literally just makes you invisible
>sauron is supposedly invisible anyway
was Tolkien a hack?
It’s not even a literary criticism, it’s just a spin-off of the normalfag post-ironic “dude Hitler did nothing wrong!” statement. They do it with other pop culture villainous figures, like Darth Vader, Voldemort, Thanos, etc.
why didn't Mr Tumnus rape Lucy?
Should Morgoth be depicted as being bigger and more powerful?
>what if he was the good guy after all?
>Gandalf was the real villian
Think about it this way: Middle Earth was basically just a bunch of little dictatorships with kings that drew their legitimacy from their supposed birthright, with basically no regard for the average peasants. Same with Gandalf. That guy just used everybody and when he was done he'd drop them like a hot potato. Sauron for that matter recognized that the elves were pulling a lot of the strings behind the scenes making propaganda songs corrupting the bards and all that and started his own little industrial revolution to empower the actual workers, without all that magic bullshit.
Sauron in his eyes wasn't evil. He's former Aule's maiar so he just wanted order and progress - under his guidance of course. The problem is he was not shy of using extreme measures to achieve his goals. Orcs are productive and breed quickly so obviously they are usefull. Nazgul are 100% loyal servants. Men are easily corrupted. Only those pesky elves had to go. PS. Saruman was also Aule's maiar, this is why he competed with Sauron, but their goals were pretty much the same.
Its very unclear, Orcs might be born, come from slime and magic, corrupted such and such, the books don't give a concrete answer as far as I know
The only bad thing he did was starting many wars
starting a war is always bad
when you think about it middle earth is a lot like a public minecraft server. morgoth was just some edgy hacker guy who used to be a mod and kept on fucking with the other mods until they range banned him and created a vip zone for themselves and their 100% approved bootlickers. Sauron was another edgy dude who kept fucking around on the open server but knew a little bit of hacking but not as much as melkor.
>gets whipped into submission by a bunch of lesser Maiar
Yes, they breed like everyone else. In the book, Saruman's Uruk-hai are orc-men.
literally a coward Balrog that hid itself after Morgoth's fall
I remember writing stories in my sketch pad when I was like 8 and all the characters were either all good or all evil with no explanation. Apparently I’m a sophisticated literary master
The ring does different shit based on who wears it. It makes the hobbits invisible because they're weak
Why is this incident supposed to make Morgoth look bad ? Ungoliant fled and disappear forever after being driven off by the Balrogs. Investing his power into gaining faithful followers definitely paid off for Morgoth there.
Isn't there an addedum that relates how the human-orc hybrid were created? Just curious haha
>didn’t put a guard or even a door here
Wtf was he retarded
cringe lorelet