Finally got around to watching Lolita, and it was dumb

Finally got around to watching Lolita, and it was dumb.

I get that it's ultimately an anti-pedo film, but where did this idea of a teenage "nymphet" who lusts exclusively after wrinkly old men come from? Not only does she immediately start flirting with Jeremy Irons after he moves in, but later on she becomes enamored with, get this, a bald, fucking child pornography producer who must be nearing his sixties. Even at the end of the film she admits to still harbor feelings for this man. Teenagers are "nymphets" for boys around their age or slightly older, not this dumb pedophile fantasy.

I was in utter disbelief throughout the entire film, and I can safely say that it was ruined for me, because of this.

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The world used to be a different place.

Is it so hard to believe a girl without a father figure in her life becomes somewhat attracted to him?
While it may not have been necessarily sexual from her part, he perceived it as such and manipulated her to go further.

I've met at least 5 teenagers 14-17 years old who were in relationships with older men

You should've read the book and then never watched any of the film adaptations, but you decided to ruin it for yourself.

Why would anyone decide to watch the shit in your pic if there's a version by Kubrick, anyway?

Because the Kubrick version is shit, he even said so himself.

>Teenagers are "nymphets" for boys around their age or slightly older
goes to show what you know about women, retard

I don't understand why teenage whores put on makeup and shit, surely they should just use their qt young looks instead of clownpaint

The first 30 minutes is probably the the most beautiful film I have ever seen. The rest is meh.

The female's eternal dilemma. Health, or wealth.

Well, desu, I have to agree, it was disappointing, the book is infinitely more entertaining. And then that's even one of Nabokov's best works, not even close... But come on, are you gonna tell me the 97 version is any better?

>Some roastie wants to fuck old people
>That's too pervert to be true, they really don't know much about this world.

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>not even one of Nabokov's best works

Absolutely.

It's been years since I've seen both movies, but from what I recall Kubrick's was severely neutered.
As edgy as the topic is, if you're discussing the sexuality of a pubescent girl, you're going to have show sexual elements in the movie, otherwise a lot of the story is lost.

I can't remember where they deviate in terms of story, but I watched the movies shortly after I read the book, and the 97' version was the one I could relate to more.

Also, recommend me some of his other works, read Pnin and couldn't get in to it.

I lacked a mother figure and feel in lust with my teacher (who was later convicted of sleeping with a student, which made me feel all kinds of things about GOD DAMMIT IT WASN'T JUST ME IMAGINING THAT SHE WAS ATTRACTED TO ME - WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR COFFEE AFTER HIGH SCHOOL ENDED IT WASN'T ONLY PLATONIC REEEEEEE

>going out for coffee with your teacher
How did that happen?

Some girls like older men. I always loved older men. Even when i was a kid, I was horny for my 45 year old teachers more than the stupid boys in class.

60 is too old, they have to be "dad age" like 35-late 40's is ideal.

user... you blew it.

remember, it's from humbert's perspective
she's not actually flirting with him
that's just his wishful thinking altering his perception of events

Jeremy Irons is sexy. I wish I was a teenage girl so I could fuck him.

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>where did this idea of a teenage "nymphet" who lusts exclusively after wrinkly old men come from?
Because Nabokov can write, but people can't read. The world of Lolita is portrayed thru Humberts eyes and he seduces the reader into believing, by his art (like Poe in Annabel Lee). Without his art, he's just a pathetic hebephile.

FUCK off faggot tranny shit

The real life of Sebastian Knight is short and an easy read.

I just asked her. We'd started a private email correspondance as part of my final exam preparation.
Nothing happened because she had just started going out with the man who she later married.

My friend, be respect.
The dude she slept with (in classrooms) actually broke things off.

I can somewhat empathise with women who blame the younger person their partner cheats with (that hussy) because I had a twinge of jelly and mad at the dude she slept with and my first thought was concern for her.

Also I don't think it was me blowing it since I'm more of a passive person anyway.

Too old to be lolita just look at her shoulders

He never said that, asshole


This is what he said:

"She was actually just the right age. Lolita was twelve and a half in the book; Sue Lyon was thirteen. I think some people had a mental picture of a nine-year-old. I would fault myself in one area of the film, however; because of all the pressure over the Production Code and the Catholic Legion of Decency at the time, I believe I didn’t sufficiently dramatize the erotic aspect of Humbert’s relationship with Lolita, and because his sexual obsession was only barely hinted at, many people guessed too quickly that Humbert was in love with Lolita. Whereas in the novel this comes as a discovery at the end, when she is no longer a nymphet but a dowdy, pregnant suburban housewife; and it’s this encounter, and his sudden realization of his love, that is one of the most poignant elements of the story. If I could do the film over again, I would have stressed the erotic component of their relationship with the same weight Nabokov did. But that is the only major area where I believe the film is susceptible to valid criticism."

The sole reason for the 1997 remake was to lower a yoke of "Man with the Candy" creepiness over the whole theme of Lolita.


And anyway, what the majority of people don't understand, the novel is a dark comedy, we are supposed to laugh at Humbert for his ultimately destructive fantasies.

>Sue Lyon was thirteen
14

I'd say his later Berlin period writing is easily his best, The Gift especially, even if the maestro himself would disagree. He translated a lot of that into English later on. However, The Gift, for instance, relies a lot on his insanely masterful wordplay, not quite sure how well the translations capture that.

lmao leave your basement for once, you fat incel