How did such an interesting era manage to not be fleshed out at all in the movies they stemmed from?
How did such an interesting era manage to not be fleshed out at all in the movies they stemmed from?
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>prequels had world building
>disney can't use stuff from prequels because of the prequels bad meme
>thus they can't world build because prequels bad
>interesting era
no
The interesting era was the 5 years after the battle of Endor finished, ie the building of the new republic, the breakdown of the empire into warlords and mercenarys, the founding of the new jedi order, etc.
Unforunately they were too cowardly to do that, and wanted to include -then kill- the original characters at the correct age.
I think thats what appeals to a lot of people about the mandalorian, that's its set in that era, the era we actually wanted to see, rather than distant past or far future. It actually feels like the original universe, not a copy.
>interesting era
I really don't understand how anyone could possibly think this. Everything that occurred between ROTJ and TFA is stupid and was aimed at explaining why TFA has the same plot of the original film and why everything is back where it started, which itself was purely a soulless marketing decision by a creatively bankrupt company aimed at making money for their shareholders. I don't see how anyone can suspend their disbelief enough to actually enjoy it.
Because its soulless corporate jew trash, nothing about this story was good everything is just a poor placeholder for an element on the OT
because it really isn't that interesting of an era. It's watching character you love passed their prime slowly die and new characters having to deal with remnants of past adventures.
The best it could've been was an epilogue to what already happened, and why in the world would the epilogue be more interesting than the main story?
If Disney had jumped real far into the future and really started fresh, then maybe they could've done something more interesting.
Not OP, but it really is interesting and stands out on it's own in the >books
They do a good job showcasing what makes the era different at the core, even though the movies never even fucking attempted to do this.
The fact that episode 7s opening crawl doesnt even attempt to tell you who the first order is is outright deranged. Fuck JJ.
Literally the entire expanded universe and almost every video game was set during this era. Obviously Disney then ripped it all up and replaced it with their watered down paste to link to their failures of films
I have a rough draft of a script in my mind that would've played out like this even at the character's current age with it starting by negotiations between Leia Organa and some old Imperial official that would've subverted the whole Empire = automatically evil and also listed a brief history of the post-Endor happenings. It would still end up with Solo dying, Luke going into exile and Empire with the upper hand at the end but it wouldn't be a retarded handwave like Abrams' version.
>doesnt even attempt to tell you who the first order is
This was the big problem I had with these films. The universe doesn't make sense. There are things happeneing with no explanation or logic. Eventually, anything can happen since the setting is so poorly explained, at which point it just becomes boring.
It wasn't interesting because they literally had zero plan and KK kept changing gears on the other Star Wars films leading to them being completely reshot. So, it was just shit leadership.
>Eventually, anything can happen since the setting is so poorly explained, at which point it just becomes boring.
Welcome to capeshit writing
It all makes sense, just be prepared to shell out some book and comic money for the explination
>It all makes sense
It is interesting. Real world reasons for why they chose a certain direction with it don't effect that.
You mean the books that gets retconed by their own movies? The books were future books keeps changing around things to fit the most recent plot hole created by the movies? Those books?
Honestly I got more story out of the manuals that came with old lucasarts pc games.
Its literally the OT setting just less interesting and filled with plot holes and shit that makes no sense.
The era after Endor is interesting, Disney's explanations are not
That's because it was still LUCASarts. Aka made by people who liked the universe.
Yeah
>You mean the books that gets retconed by their own movies?
That's never happened
>The books were future books keeps changing around things to fit the most recent plot hole created by the movies?
I'll give you this one but who cares
>That's never happened
You mean like how JJ ignores Poe's backstory just so he can make him a smuggler like Han?
That's just added info, not a retcon. His past as a smuggler fits fine into his backstory
I can't believe I'm living in an era where people will literally post pictures of Reddit comments instead of constructing their own post
I never thought I'd live to see the day where the Old Republic Era would be the pinnacle of Star Wars:
>Tales of the Jedi - excellent comic series,
>Knights of the Old Republic - excellent game,
>Knights of the Old Republic (comic) - very nice series,
>Knights of the Old Republic II - brilliant,
>Revan (novel) - the black sheep, can be safely ignored (and has been by ToR developers whenever possible),
>The Old Republic - good stories, good RPG, NOT a good MMO.
>You mean like how the Knights of Ren are former Padawns/Jedi at the temple, until they aren't?
>You mean like all the Padawans at the temple were killed, until they weren't?
>You mean like Ahsoka Tano was confirmed to be dead, until she wasn't?
I could go on and on...
Oh, one more?
>You mean like it's stated in the movies that a handful of Padawans followed Kylo Ren, until it was retconned into never happening?
finns arc was so wasted could have shown how daily storm trooper life was and how going against his comrades start to break him instead we got rose taco romance
Bad user, that's not canon anymore! There was no romance, only friendship! Remember retcon #354.
Honestly I thought finn would have worked better as the main protag.
It would be 'neat' to counter him to luke, who was desparate to go on adventure, and finn just wants to get away but realized he can't just do that.
>You mean like how the Knights of Ren are former Padawns
That was never a thing, just something the community assumed
>You mean like Ahsoka Tano was confirmed to be dead, until she wasn't?
Ahsoka was never confirmed to be dead.
I'll give you the other one I suppose, though they really never said every single Padawan was killed either
>You mean like it's stated in the movies that a handful of Padawans followed Kylo Ren,
Yeah this is just fucking retarded. Unless we just haven't seen these other padawans yet, but that seems unlikely
That's what happens when shills infest boards, Redditors look better by comparison.
>destroy the only interesting arc
>then retcon it the next movie
my god what a shitshow
i honestly think most people thought he was when he picked up the lightsaber to fight kylo all i could think was his arc if he fights his squad with a lightsabers gonna be cool BUT NOPE
>That's what happens when shills infest boards, Redditors look better by comparison.
Lmao gee I wonder what website you are from
Ahsoka is amongst the voices of dead Jedi in Rise of Skywalker. The credits confirmed that. Then Dave Filoni reeeeed at his waifu being dead and declared it non-canon.
In the Last Jedi Luke outright states that Kylo took half a dozen Padawans with him. Kylo. Not the Knights of Ren.
Want to know their latest retcon? KYLO HAD NO PART IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE. It was already burning when he emerged from the ruins of his hut.