To accept Villeneuve as a quality director is to garb yourself in a coat of hot pockets and video games and then writhe around on the ground in a supermarket while screaching and slapping yourself on the sides of your head.
He is cheeto dust. Nothing more.
Nothing more than a hack, a useful tool for studios to trot out to say "Hey, we're making art house!" I cannot wrap my head around the adulation he receives, let alone the wide praise this has got. The film trudges from set piece to set piece, leaves us no real questions or anything to think about really. The worst part however was Deakins' "look at me I'm acting!" cinematography. This poor sap has become a parody of himself to appease his internet fans (much like Refn after Drive) The same bullet that kills a capeshit fan will also kill the Villeneuve and Paul Thomas Anderson fan. They come from the same root, from the same doritos stained console. They are frauds, and as a warrior of cinema it's my duty to expose the fakes and the inauthentic when I see them. I will fight with nails and teeth until the last imposter has fallen to the ground I have about as much respect for Denis Villeneuve as I do for the dogshit on my shoe. He is reddit. He is video game hotpocket. He is capeshit. He is cheeto dust. I'm literally screaming right now and slamming my arms down on my desk just thinking about him. He is the most depraved video game infantilised manchild degeneracy. He is Saturday morning cartoons. He is non-neurotypicality. He is memes. He is video game. He is Inarritu. He is IMDB.
Can Yas Forums just admit that Bladerunner 2049 is an extremely dull and soulless movie. The only reason Yas Forums loves it so much is because their autistic mindset allows them to emphasise with the silent and introverted protagonist. If Ryan Gosling played someone who wasn’t autistic, then Yas Forums would have forgotten Bladerunner 2049 in seconds
>Has a overblown budget >Movie looks good This had like 2x a budget of a lord of the rings movie and nothing very interesting is being filmed. Of course it looks good. Buts its just bland wallpapers with different colored filters.
Matthew Hill
>a subculture coalesces around a particular work of fiction because they heavily identify with its protagonist and themes You're describing and chatting shit about an aspect of the human condition.
Robert Baker
It's a good movie. Probably in my top 20 of this decade.
I just don't understand why it's either the best movie ever or the worst movie ever. Yas Forums needs to find the middle ground
Isaac Miller
Based exposing dishonest frauds is our duty
Luis Howard
>The worst part however was Deakins' "look at me I'm acting!" cinematography This doesn't make sense.
Gabriel Mitchell
When it comes to Bladerunner 2049, Yas Forums is like this
>Howwweeeee he is literally like me, look at the way he shouts angrily, so much supppppressed emotion just like meeeee, oh he acts awkward around girls, just like meeeeeeee
Jose Davis
Samefagging your own thread is against the rules Will jannies punish this? No. Are jannies niggers? Yes
Nathan Parker
Plenty of high budget movies look shit. Whether you like the movie or not fuck it’s beautiful
Christian Richardson
>it looks good >but it looks bland
You can't give up can't u contrarian retard
Jaxon Hughes
Dishonest Filmmaking:(Tarantino, Alejandro González Iñárritu, Wes Anderson, Christopher Nolan, James Cameron, Alex Garland, Paul Thomas Anderson, Nicholas Refn, Tom Hooper, Tyler Perry, Gaspar Noe, The Coen Brothers, Noah Baumbach, Denis Vilenueve, James Franco, Damien Chazelle, David Fincher, Lars Von Trier, Paul Thomas Anderson) are intellectually bankrupt moral whores and charlatans; their films appeal to the modern phenomenon of the 'Pretend Epic' or Pseudo Cinema, often tied to the criticism that "It was a movie that thought it was a film" they have no ideas of their own and are filmed purely to have fancy essays made about them. They obfuscate their lack of insight under a smug impenetrable irony and often contain scenes with disingenuous attempts at depth with characters spouting platitudes that the director takes VERY seriously. This directly panders to the IMDb reddit sensibility of quote circlejerking since these hacks are masters of the fools wit, "Quipping" (Not to be confused with the marvel co-opting of the word) , it sounds smart, cool and worldly but in reality there's nothing of substance, the Revenant's attempt at spiritualism was cheap and laughable and whilst someone like Malick has considered his philosophy, Inaurritu wears his introspection on his sleeve to give his film a false sense of depth with pathetic sermonising. They leech the greater works that preceded them; like The Enemy being a rip off Eraserhead, but they have nothing else to say.They act under the guise of deconstruction with surface layer obvious 'social commentary' and a quirky forgettable score praised as 'innovative'. They are all inauthentic sycophants that rely on oscar buzz and post 9/11 detachment for relevance.
These directors are hacks and will be forgotten to time. Some notably earnest filmmakers include, but are not limited to: >Mike Leigh >Alfonso Cuaron >Werner Herzog >Darren Aronofsky >Mel Gibson >Terrence Malick >David Yates >David Lynch >Clint Eastwood
Can you actually lay out some arguments for me? I’m no Villeneuve fanboy but I don’t really get the violent hatred. What I’ve seen of his stuff has been pretty fine. 6/10 mostly. His films tend to look good, and deliver solid performances. I’m not always enamoured with the story, but that’s not the Director’s job. Specifically what does he do wrong?
Adrian Cox
Are you the same batshit insane freak who used to make three threads a day about BR2049?
Dominic Mitchell
Yes but even the images are bland as fuck and minimalist. Theres not much to fuck up. It's not something people should be impressed by.
Justin Green
>Dishonest Filmmaking:(Tarantino, Alejandro González Iñárritu, Wes Anderson, Christopher Nolan, James Cameron, Alex Garland, Paul Thomas Anderson, Nicholas Refn, Tom Hooper, Tyler Perry, Gaspar Noe, The Coen Brothers, Noah Baumbach, Denis Vilenueve, James Franco, Damien Chazelle, David Fincher, Lars Von Trier, Paul Thomas Anderson) are intellectually bankrupt moral whores and charlatans; their films appeal to the modern phenomenon of the 'Pretend Epic' or Pseudo Cinema, often tied to the criticism that "It was a movie that thought it was a film" they have no ideas of their own and are filmed purely to have fancy essays made about them. They obfuscate their lack of insight under a smug impenetrable irony and often contain scenes with disingenuous attempts at depth with characters spouting platitudes that the director takes VERY seriously. >This directly panders to the IMDb reddit sensibility of quote circlejerking since these hacks are masters of the fools wit, "Quipping" (Not to be confused with the marvel co-opting of the word) , it sounds smart, cool and worldly but in reality there's nothing of substance, the Revenant's attempt at spiritualism was cheap and laughable and whilst someone like Malick has considered his philosophy, Inaurritu wears his introspection on his sleeve to give his film a false sense of depth with pathetic sermonising. >These directors are hacks and will be forgotten to time. Some notably earnest filmmakers include, but are not limited to: >>Mike Leigh >>Alfonso Cuaron >>Werner Herzog >>Darren Aronofsky >>Mel Gibson >>Terrence Malick >>David Yates >>David Lynch >>Clint Eastwood
Pretty good prose, interesting assertions, but a distinct lack of evidence. I don’t necessarily disagree but there’s a lot of sweeping generalisations, where specific references would be more compelling. I’m intrigued by the idea of pseudo-cinema and it’s definitely something these fellas are guilty of, I’m just struggling to put my finger on exactly how to identify it. When you know, you know, sure I get that, but what about identifiable filmmaking characteristics?
Kayden Turner
In my experience hes very minimalist. Lots of slow establishing shot that require little effort. Very cerebral flow for pretty much no good reason. I thinks its just his style i personally hate it. Hes also into the pseudo deep type stories like lets just pretend this is profound. Like in blade runner and arrival.
Dylan Gonzalez
I get that minimalism is overplayed, but the use of framing, depth, and colour are all phenomenal
Nicholas Powell
>implying the reddit sois do not love those directors.
Xavier Parker
Yeah I get that, the classic it “insists upon itself”. The emotional dishonesty of constantly reminding you how deep the film is rather than telling the story and allowing you to assert that for yourself. I can subconsciously recognise it’s dishonest, but I think I’ve got to watch some more of his stuff (regrettably) to figure out exactly how my brain comes to that conclusion
Parker Hall
>In my experience hes very minimalist. Some argue(like that soiboi filmcrithulk) that Villeneuve's aesthetic especially the cinematography is the opposite of that and it has too many elements that draws attention to itself.
Adam Walker
He doesn't have any real arguments. I will tell you the truth: he finds his movies boring and too slow. They don't give him the instant gratification and the serotonin rush he is so used to from the internet, porn and video games. Since his brain doesn't feel good after his movies he rides right into a corner with his mental gymnastics.
Yes i admit framing and color is fine. But again he makes it so easy for himself when theres very little he needs to do. I have only seen arrival and blade runner. Theres barely and directing actually required for those its just 1-2 actors looking stern for a few seconds the shot. Theres never anyone else doing anything makes he world feel empty and lifeless to me, which i think is just a result of modern Hollywood laziness.
Joseph Bell
Nolan maybe a lot of things but one thing he is not is dishonest. Almost all of his films explore things he is genuinely passionate about and often his own insecurities.
Aaron Collins
Bladerunner 2049 unironically insists upon itself. It wants to be some sort of ‘super-deep masterpiece.’ It’s dishonest cinema, just like the Godfather, overrated junk.
