>we need a gun for the supervillain
We need a gun for the supervillain
>we need a gun for the hero
I need a gun autist to tell me if this thing is a rifle or a submachine gun, or if it can be both. For decades (going back as far as 2001 when it was my favourite gun on counter strike) I assumed it was a rifle, it has a scope ffs, but I'm playing the division 2 the other day, and that game seems to know it's shit about weapons, and it's listed as a god damn submachine gun. What the fuck.
It fires rifle rounds. Submachine guns typically fire pistol rounds
Look at the bullets.
Long bullets are rifle (like your pic)
Short bullets like a pistol make it a submachine gun.
Simple as.
>but I'm playing the division 2 the other day, and that game seems to know it's shit about weapons, and it's listed as a god damn submachine gun
Then they fucked up. A submachine gun fires pistol caliber rounds, the AUG is a rifle caliber gun
>we need a gun with a bunch of useless attachments
so the 9mm version is a submachine gun?
Which ones are useless?
Yes.
In mw2 it was an LMG.
Oh shit this is probably the version I used in the division. I did think there might be a different type.
That clears the mystery up.
>we need a gun for the old guy
Mam, this. I've always assumed it's an assault rifle, but I started playing CoD Warzone recently and its tagged as an "SMG" there. What's the reasoning behind this, I'm clueless about guns yuropoor. Is it just retardation from the game devs?
bullpup rifle
The definition of a submachine gun is an automatic weapon (aka machine gun) that fires pistol caliber ammunition. An assault rifle is an intermediate caliber rifle that is select fire, meaning it can be fired semi-automatic or some form of fully automatic. The AUG is an assault rifle, it fires 5.56x45mm, which is an intermediate rifle round.
It's both. The standard AUG is an assault rifle, but there's also the AUG 9mm/AUG Para, firing pistol rounds. Latter is sometimes used by police around here.
But there are pistol-caliber rifles
Div2 has both the Para and the standard AUG.
>indoctrinating morons with "BLACKED"
based multi-media-corporate-overlords
>BLACKED
>An assault rifle is an intermediate caliber rifle that is select fire,
So are you telling me that the media has been lying about these "assault rifles" used in mass shootings, and they are actually regular old semi automatic rifles? Color me shocked.
US media often uses "assault weapons", a classification which doesn't actually exist outside of journalist heads.
and those aren't submachine guns or assault rifles. 'rifles' that fire pistol ammunition are a grey area anyway because they are essentially a novelty, used only for recreational purposes. from a mechanical standpoint there is no reason why a large shoulder fired weapon would be chambered in something as weak as say .357 mag. They only reason they exist is ammo commonality with some guy's revolver.
it's an even grayer area if you are talking about guns that fire 'pistol' cartridges like .500 mag, because they are so large and powerful the line between rifle and pistol is not clear.
The point of all of this is that these terms are not legal terms written in stone but simply practical language, obviously you can find exceptions if you look hard enough.
>essentially a novelty, used only for recreational purposes
My buddy's AR is chambered in 9mm. Never had an easier time accurately firing a weapon in my life.
is that a famas?
PPSH, heck of a shotgun
>My buddy's AR is chambered in 9mm.
And I am guessing he is not rescuing hostages with it either. Which is my point that such things are used for recreation. You can find instances of such weapons being used for real in the past but it is usually due to lack of a better alternative or a cut down variant.
>Never had an easier time accurately firing a weapon in my life.
lol no doubt, considering a regular AR is way bigger and heavier than what is needed for a 9mm submachine gun.
Whatever man, calling it a "novelty" just seems stupid. A "novelty" gun will blow your brains out you eye sockets, even in the hands of an amateur shooter.
>calling it a "novelty" just seems stupid.
It might seem stupid if you are stupid. Just because it's a novelty doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. It just means that it isn't built to serve a real practical purpose. The reason that 99% of 9mm ARs are sold is for cheap plinking at the range.
A novelty is the $4999 Barret you see hanging from the shop's wall. A pistol-caliber rifle is purely utility. Home defense, it's like the perfect weapon, already defying your retarded "novelty" remark, but it'd also be a great hunting weapon for small game, and if you want to get larpy, in a SHTF, accuracy and extremely plentiful and universally useful ammunition are far more important than muh caliber.
It's far more than a novelty.
I'm talking from a mechanical perspective dumbass. Like you said a 9mm AR is certainly easy to shoot but it is much larger, heavier and more expensive than a 9mm submachine gun needs to be. From that perspecive, it is poorly engineered. From a novelty perspective though, they are not, because they have a large degree of parts compatibility with true 5.56 ARs including all the dumb shit that your average gun shop goer is very concerned with, fancy rails and accessories. They are very well engineered from the point of view of making money selling to average joes. You are not going to see any kind of military or police unit buying them though because they are a poor option for PRACTICAL use. For 'home defense' a 9mm is inherently inferior to a regular 5.56 in almost every way, the wounding capability of 9mm is far lower. So while you could definitely use a 9mm AR for home defense, it is not the most PRACTICAL option.
Not even going to start on the retarded SHTF crap
The M82 you reference is also a much more practical weapon for the purpose it was built, as a military anti-material rifle. Just because it isn't useful to some random backwoods retard doesn't mean it's impractical.