*Ruins Your Show*

Has there ever been a Yas Forums show where there is a "strong, independent woman" that doesn't completely kill the show?
Seriously, she's horrible.

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Six Feet Under

Xena

she's not horrible. She's a foil to Don

who’s this fat bitch?

She's not all that "strongk" in a modern feminism sense, is she? Xena and Gabrielle are more femme, from memory. Modern feminism in film is all about one upping men and figuratively castrating them on film.

She's too ugly even for an ugly girl character.

I think he meant Gabrielle.

>the most based character in the show existed solely to be fired by Peggy
I am not okay with this

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she wasn't bad

Pic related is the only time I noticed a woman being strong and independent and thought "that was actually really well done".

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Imagine reading Peggy this way when she is not strong at all. She's as flawed a person as anyone on the show but by the end when she's carrying Bert Cooper's squid rape painting she accepts her own identity by owning her bullshit unlike Don who constantly runs from his.

i liked peggy;(
I've hated the actress in everything else though.

I can just tell you're a homosexual.

Kimmie, just kimmie.

Forgot this.

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Joan is worse than Peggy but you're just some brainlet who probably can barely pay attention to capeshit let alone Mad Men. Blow me ya simp

C.J. from the west wing.

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her character wasnt even the problem - I just really hate to look at her face.

pure aryan features

>Blow me ya simp
Ah so it's true

Didn't she jerk a guy off in a movie theater? Seems pretty based to me.

You fucking kidding me? Peggy is great. She gets shat on mercilessly until she acts like a man business-wise and completely disregards being a woman in every aspect of her life for a long ass time as a result of it.

you must be a hole

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I don't really even remember her in the show except for getting pregnant and giving the baby away

What does she do?

cope

If you think her character in MM was "Stronk woman" then you're retarded. She was constantly miserable because of her desire to be in the same position as Don. Even though her ending was lame at least the message was "finding a decent guy will make you happier than a career" which wouldn't fly with most lefties today

Both these and rat girl

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She's extremely important to Don's story and characterization as his protoge and as a surrogate daughter figure.
The only reason his relationship with Sally works at all is because of her.
She's really the only one professionally who Don respects and relates to.
A lot of his issues are reflected on her, and she works through a lot of those inherited issues and reflects the progress back on him.

For the story, she's central and vital. Even if you dislike her on a personal level, she's not a token irellevant character or annoying because she's pointless or doesn't make sense in the context of the show. And so what if she's annoying? Lots of great characters are annoying.

tl:dr you didn't get madmen.

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Futurama
The X-Files
Squatter's Reach
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles

I never saw Blade: The Series, but were there any women on that?