How good is it?
How good is it?
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One of cronenberg's best
Cronenberg's best, along with Eastern Promises. It's great.
Its great, same with eastern promises
I felt that when he stabbed the dude in the foot.
Unironically one of my favorite movies. Probably the best one set in my home state, too, which adds to the appeal for me.
I'd put Cronenberg's second best as The Fly, although EP is really good too
Not very good
Cronenberg has stumbled severely as an artist in the 21st century
Cosmopolis was alright but the rest meanders between complete drivel and just sort of okay
History of Violence has effective violence but the framing of the story and characters is so silly that it may as well be on the same tier as Logan
I remember liking the sex scene on the stairs when I was a kid
For me it's every time ed harris says "joey" and the end when joey massacres a house full of gangsters
the best movie set in indiana is breaking away, faggot, this is indisputable
Good if you like history and violence
>Cronenberg
I miss this lil nigga's film making like you wouldn't believe.
I don't understand why they felt the need to show Viggo Mortensen as the Terminator in the last 20 minutes. It turns the movie into a big cartoon. All we need to know is that he was a good hitman in the past and that he abandoned "Richie" (aka big money) by starting a new life.
Ignore this pleb
You just have to be quicker than the other guy and joey was already a known legend
Once you get past le ebin edgy characters and violence, which is no longer anywhere near as grotesque, inventive or shocking as he used to be, Cronenberg's 21st century films are severely lacking in any good characters, plots or narratives
ExistenZ was his last inventive movie that also tackled its subject matter in a cool way
Cosmopolis is hypnotic in parts but its such a harangue in terms of its dialogue, without much visual heft
He even had a Q interview several years back where he all but confirmed he no longer believes in the power of images but rather "a face talking" being the true "essence of cinema"
>that rough sex scene on the stairs
UNNNNNNFFFFFF
Eisenbuurhuurduurrg is fucking annoying in this as he is in almost everything but TSN.
>the framing of the story and characters is so silly
It's pulpy. But a lot of what makes the movie stick is how well it threads the needle between pulp and family drama. It gives everything an unusual sense of tension that wouldn't work without that contrast.
>Cronenberg has stumbled severely as an artist in the 21st century.
He hasn't been as productive. But let's not forget that in the 20th he gave us shit like Scanners and Shivers.
this
Isn't it based on a comic? Of course it's pulpy
It doesn't elevate the source material in any way or make it more believable (not "realistic")
It's a kids movie in essence
Cronenberg didn't even know it was based on a comic until the script was basically completed.
I recall fapping to the sex scene that occurred on the stairs all the time when I was younger. Softcore sex scenes are so much better than porn.
>or make it more believable
Then you definitely haven't read it.
the movie and its characters are completely unbelievable
It's not actually Eisenberg, he just looks like him
>For me it's every time ed harris says "joey"
The film constitutes a thought-provoking allegory about the difference between the state of nature and the civil state; in this sense it is thematically similar to Fight Club in that it explores the changes that character undergoes when their sense of safety and security is eroded.
The actual scenes are not insincere but lack a sense of reality - the acting and script seem very contrived. A bit like watching a filmic B-grade drama. On this count I really struggle to understand the critical acclaim this film has received. The power of the themes and the overall allegory simply don't justify how fake the whole thing feels.
>fake
>a film
>expecting realism
>from a fake thing
is this what happens when an idiot collects things from other smart people then repeats it without understanding any of it? cuz damn
Great story and acting wise but it honestly feels really dated, like a tv movie. Also the violence is cartoonish and silly. Example:
That's not so bad really, good enough for a drama
Everyone in this film looks like they need to wash their hair.
Snapping a guys neck like that is utterly ridiculous. The rest of the scene is passable but that just goes way over the line into nonsense.
Not really he really twists him up. I'm a trained martial artist and it didn't even take me out of the my immersion. If you sit there replaying it more than once or twice ya it starts to seem odder and odder but in the movie, half a second, boom bam bop, moving on, it's okay
Never tried it but looks pretty easy
>Q
Are you trained in snapping people's necks?
based on what?