How did they manage to make one so beloved and another completely forgettable? Is it simply the character or a fault of the Hobbit movies as a whole?
The potential of both would be Kings to resonate with the audience should have been similar. What went wrong?
His movies weren't ugly, boring shit.
Aragorn wins and rules, Thorin dies
Aragorn is wise and generous, Thorin is short-sighted and greedy
Aragorn is reluctantly following his destiny, Thorin is obsessed with restoration of past glories
Aragorn learns to avoid mistakes, makes allies, Thorin alienates newly encountered people and keeps falling into the same blunders as ancestors
Aragorn is the king that is meant ot return, Thorin is the king that failed his kingship even before ascending the throne. They are meant to be opposites, and even when Thorin is redeemed in death, it's not enough to make a difference.
This. Also the Hobbit movies fucking sucked.
The LoTR books were much more suited for an epic movie adaptation. The Hobbit was never an epic tale. It was a quaint children's book/story. Aragorn as a protagonist benefitted from that.
Also, The Hobbit movies were a mess, so that didn't help Thorin.
Thorin only got like 15 mins of forced characterisation and he went batty nuggets in the last movie, rendering most of it pointless.
The Hobbit movies were filled with too much extraneous bullshit to work well. Even Bilbo felt bland and arcless.
>They will be three hundred leagues from here by now.
What did movie Theoden mean by this? A league is roughly three miles, which would make 900 miles. It took Eorl's eohere 10 days to cover 500-mile distance between the source of the Anduin and the field of Celebrant. How is Gandalf then supposed to cover 900 miles and ride back with Éomer in just 5 days?
No one cares about some arrogant posturing dwarf. Aragorn didn't have to try hard to appear leaderly and elegant, he just fell into the role after finally coming around from his rebellious phase.
Thorin was a manlet
Thorin is a great character
Thorin's a compelling character, some of it even managed to come through despite how awful the movies were but in the end nothing associated with those bloated monstrosities could compete with the OT. Same for Bilbo.
>HOBBIT BAD
They werent that far theodin just assumed they were
Theoden is old, not senile, user. He sure knows how fast horses can ride.
It was and still is
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Thorium actually had a pretty decent arc in the first movie but then they just undid it and repeated it in both subsequent movies
Thorin went from being stoic to being a dickhead to being a reformed dickhead to being crazed with gold lust to being a reformed gold-crazed dickhead.
Aragorn went from being badass to even more badass to being badass and regal.
>Theoden is old, not senile, user. He sure knows how fast horses can ride.
Doesn't mean he can exaggerate for the sake of expressing the simple fact that he didn't think Eomer and the Rohirrim were close enough to call back in time to aid in defense.
Thorin
>little screen time
>shitty movies
>only starts playing any role of importance in second movie
But mostly the first 2 points.
The costume design in the Hobbit is so fucking bad.
It's really bland and generic. Granted, most of the characters are supposed to be either random schlubs or travelling long-distance, but the shitty CG and frame rate makes everything that already seems blurry and uninteresting look even worse
because thorin was a manlet.
nothing works in the hobbit, not a single character works.
This.
Also, dwarves aren't holy, nor were they ever fated to great things.
We all know Warwick Davies should have played Thorin Oakenshield.
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You can totally tell they designed Balin's costume first. All the actual dwarven style went into him.
I love how Thorin and Kili just look like little humans, so viewers can at least attempt to relate to Thorin as a leader, and so the relationship between Tauriel and Kili isn't cringy as fuck.
"I might have anything down my trousers."
What the fuck was Jackson thinking with these movies?
The decision to make three of the dwarves look like male models, and make-up the fuck out of the rest to look and act like Disney cartoons was incredibly jarring and cynical.
Yup. Even Bilbo felt disingenuous. That final bit in film 1 where he goes, you lost your kingdom felt entirely hollow. The orcs chasing them down was unnecessary, Thorin was both too handsome to be a dwarf and too uninteresting(why is he the only dwarf to look like just a dude?).
This so much. Need a handsome guy in there somewhere, how else will women want to see it?
Can you imagine if Tauriel had fallen in love with Bombur instead.
Women would have been offended.