>This is hailed as one of the best Christian movies by Yas Forums, on the same level as Seventh Seal and Andrei Rublev
LMAO
This is hailed as one of the best Christian movies by Yas Forums, on the same level as Seventh Seal and Andrei Rublev
Adam Gomez
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Asher Howard
Shut the fuck up, fag.
Gavin Perry
Damn OP roasted in his own thread...
Ian Ortiz
Is it really that bad?
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Weak bait
This is a great Christian film and one of the best films about Christ. what don't you like about it that isn't a mean jab or buzzwords, what is a real criticism you have?
Jacob Peterson
It's silly. Simple as that. The excess amount of violence stops being extreme and gruesome 20 minutes in because it just keeps going on and on and on.
It's Christmas gospel tier in the sense that it's a mishmash of the 4 canonical gospels. The theology is bad, the cinematography is dated as fuck and is extremely 2001-04 tier in color grading as well.
The inclusion of Satan/Anti-christ is also just ???????????????????????????????????. Fucking why? Judas was also poorly written and borderline nonsensical.
Fair enough that you want to do a movie about The Passion, but 2 hours of nothing but The Passion and pointless flashbacks (the fucking table one, oh my god) just reminds me of how Peter Jackson made a 3,5 hour long movie about what's essentially 2 pages in The Hobbit. You need to make a true epic in order for it to actually work as a standalone film. I can only imagine how terrible it must be to watch for people who hasn't studied the Gospels.
The inclusion of popular headcanons is also pretty stupid, both from a writing point and a theological one. Again, a lot of this could have been handled better if the movie was 4 hours long and actually fleshed out things instead of just being Jesus torture porn for 2 hours straight.
Also, the fact that they tortured Jesus for THAT long and he didn't succumb to his wounds long before he actually was made to carry the cross (another fucking lmao thing by the way, that whole part made me cringe) implies some good old heretical shit. Same old council bullshit.
t. MA in Theology
Dylan Walker
Also, Gibson COMPLETELY missed the point of τετέλεσται. Either do it right or don't at all. Don't make Him say something after that, fucking hell.
Juan Miller
Fpbp.
How do they always manage it? Is there some kind of bot/script in place?
Ian Hill
I never watched it because I assumed it was torture porn for Jesus freaks, glad I didn't based on your review
Charles Gutierrez
The movie is for people who love Jesus, not because they truly love Him, but because they have to.
It's made for the KJV plebs who has never ever studied The Bible.
Dominic Johnson
Yes.
Gavin Jackson
hold my beer
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Jack Rivera
Protestants cannot make good movies about Christianity because they miss the point.
Chase Collins
What version of The Bible should I read?
Luis Richardson
Are you an atheist? If so why did you study Theology?
Levi Torres
This one.
Easton Lopez
Preferably Novum Testamentum Graece (na28) but koiné is a fucking bitch to learn. I can't really make proper comments on which English translation is the best, since I'm not in the anglosphere and the only English version I've read is the KJV before and after I got familiar with koiné greek and biblical hebrew.
No.
Brayden Nelson
based
Anthony Russell
the jews were really this violent and hateful towards our lord and savior jesus christ, mel was just making a realistic portrayal.
it's not the fault of any jew alive today but they need to accept thatt this happened. they also need to repent and accept christ as the messiah.
Cameron Parker
This is not a good movie, but the comparison to Andrei Rublev and Seventh Seal are accurate.
Brody Sanders
Mel Gibson is Catholic
>Protestants cannot make good movies about Christianity
Malick, Dreyer
William Jackson
This whole movie gives off this anime feeling in a weird way, the torture scene is just gore core and cartoonish, especially the roman floggers, and it falsely trying to make the torture in of itself why Jesus was so important because he withstood so much physical suffering when it just pales in comparison to what other people suffered throughout history, it's not the point.
The inclusion of Satan was cringy, not to mention the part with the autistic screeching. The movie, ironically enough doesn't have enough "Jesus" and what he thought and how it came to that and it lingers too much on the evils of man. Even the resurrection, the most important part, is handled poorly and feels crammed it. It's a live-action anime fan film.
Eli Davis
It's Kino but I won't compared it to Seventh Seal
Angel Gonzalez
Watched the film last night for the first time. Some good points here.
Including demons was unnecessary and minimizes humanity's culpability. The table scene was near-heretical because Jesus never laughs in the Gospels as laughing is 100% human, not divine. That said, to watch it as a meditation on the passion, it does a good job, but is no replacement for reading the Bible. And read up on some of those accounts of medieval torture--people can actually last a surprising amount of time before succumbing to their wounds.
Also, I like how it dabs on the Jews, but it should have included the classic "yes! yes! His blood is on us and our children forever" line.
Christopher Bennett
Oh, and as I've been on a Christkino kick this week, I will say that Pasolini's The Gospel According to Matthew is a much better Jesus movie. I get that the atheist Pasolini was trying to portray Jesus as a Marxist, but I think he failed and made a good movie. Fast-paced though.
Lucas Foster
Why are you incels so obsessed with Jews lmao
Joshua Brown
Scorcese made the better Christ kino
Jaxon Reed
>the cinematography is dated as fuck and is extremely 2001-04 tier in color grading as well.
Most retarded bit of an otherwise decent post
Connor Nguyen
They denied and killed the Lord.
Daniel Howard
>as laughing is 100% human, not divine.
Jesus was human as well as divine. If he was 100% divine his suffering and sacrifice would not count for humans.
Carson Morales
Rossellini did it better. Jesus sets up his ministry of mathematical proportion. He didn’t come to advocate civic effort. He came to tell men the truth of perspective.
Angel Torres
Was this the best Devil depictions in movies?
Sebastian Collins
was kinda boring this movie.
GoT had better torture scenes
Anthony Watson
Why did the jannies delete the other thread?
Another film too controversial for Yas Forums.
Nathan Miller
>Jesus never laughs in the Gospels as laughing is 100% human, not divine.
Jesus was 100% human and 100% divine. Disputing that by implying he wasn't fully human is Apollinarianism.
Colton Jackson
I thought it was KINO
Brody Ramirez
Cool. Give my compliments to the DoP.
Mel Gibson can fuck off.
Brandon Adams
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Justin Edwards
>Also, I like how it dabs on the Jews, but it should have included the classic "yes! yes! His blood is on us and our children forever" line.
it is included in the movie but they didn't include it in the subtitles
Xavier Jackson
The only movie about Jesus I've seen was The Last Temptation of Christ, but that was pretty good.
Hunter Young
is this Scorsessekino?
how does it hold up? haven't seen it yet
Julian Johnson
It's not his best film, but it I did like it. It's interesting to see a story that tries to humanize Jesus more.
Ethan Garcia
Of goods and men was fantastic
Nolan Thomas
>tries to humanize Jesus more.
every time i see this I'm reminded that Jesus has become to be seen as what he would have never wanted to be, someone who needs "humanizing", when in fact he was the most human of all yet at the same time divine.
every time when he's presented as an overpowerful being with no human fears or weaknesses it does no service to the story.
Andrew Sanders
>with no human fears or weaknesses it does no service to the story.
Doing the opposite, i.e. Scorsese’s unsure and spiritually conflicted Jesus, is also incorrect. There is a correct middle ground between an unfeeling omnipotent deity and Last Temptation’s Jesus.
Xavier Hall
It's kino--what if Jesus lived his life out as a man, with the same desires as we have
Jacob Reed
Gavin Evans
Why did jews hated him so much? Also did kikes in charge let this one slide so they can cry antisemitism again?
Jaxson Barnes
They hated him because he wasn't a savior warrior that would slaughter the Romans but rather someone who advocated for the salvation of all mankind
They saw Romans and other Jews following him and they were scared that it would have destroyed their power and corrupted temples as he eventually did
Ian Powell
Kino
even as a Catholic it was great and not blasphemous as some said
Ryan Torres
Daily reminder Jews created Islam to counter the spread of Christianity.
Juan Martinez
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>fuck all religions BUT NOT THE JOOWERINOOS!!!!
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T QUOTE THE BIBLE DATS ANTI-SEMENTIC
Dominic Cox
Not blasphemous at all. Actually Scorsese's reverence shows a lot and in a more artistic way than what he makes literal in Silence.
Nathaniel Morales
Based if true