Alexander got a movie but Caesar still not? Cast him.
Alexander got a movie but Caesar still not? Cast him
>A CONSOLE OF ROME
ceasar has had like a dozen history chennel specials and like 5 TV shows I think he's fine
someone who can make intense mood flashes, megalomania, hypersexuality, and near sociopathic ambition into charming traits. its a hard role to play. the actor has to be naturally confident. he has to be a genuine leader of men. he has to be believable as a well-heeled patrician and a populist icon. he has to be fundamentally unstable.
Julius Caesar is near unplayable
Caesar got a play by the most famous playwright of all time that's still popular 400 years later, he'll be fine.
Alexander conquered the greatest empire that existed at the time. Caesar conquered a bunch of Gallic barbarians and died like a cuck.
Imagine wanting another Caesar movies and not Augustus KINO
>fuck, if I resign my command then I’ll be prosecuted for all that illegal shit I did and never be able to run for office again
>they have given me no choice but to overthrow the republic
guy sounds like a real jerk
Augustus never gets enough credit. i suppose he didnt die cinematically like Julius, so his story is less compelling. fucker got old and ate prunes and did of shittingtons in his house
Half of that takes place after he dies. Caesar deserves a movie that spans his whole life, especially the part where he gives the g*uls what they deserve.
Ceasar was BALDING
Oh fuck you're right. Oh god of fuck I want this. I'm actually cooming.
Julius Caesar was a cunt
Probably morally better than the other warlords of the Late Republic (he certainly wasnt as bloodthirsty as Sulla), but he was a cunt compared to an average person. If he were alive today, he would be cutting people off in his BMW and parking in handicapped spaces
Fucking gay
both Scipio and Sulla deserve movies more than the faggot Caesar
Peter O'toole literally played an elder Augustus in his biopic.
people would this too unbelievable. Plus the most trusted source, Suetonius, kissed his arse like you wouldn't believe.
Now a Tiberius biopic...now THAT would be kino
Julius or Augustus?
there was an essay by Montaigne in the 1600s, explaining why Augustus hasn't inspired great art: his character was too mercurial. Augustus was so brilliant, maneuverable, and shifty that it's hard to pin him down. hes fascinating to study, but if i sat down and tried to write a script about him, id make no progress.
probably the most brilliant man who ever lived
tfw no Belisarius the great biopic
reminder even Shakespeare found the story of Augustus too depressing for a tragedy. to Have all your heirs die
Sulla.
>Caligula even got a film
This is ridiculous
Who would you cast as his... you know
>why yes I do support the dictator who shagged men in an orange wig
sulla fags should be shot
people like conflict, what can they write about augustus that is interesting other than the start of the second triumvirate
sulla is the optimate choice
dont believe the suetonius lies, user.
those stories of kids swimming in the pool between his thighs are complete fantasy
KYS fucking dudes was peak masculinity at the time.
>Suetonius the most trusted source
According to who? Tacitus is widely regarded as the greatest Roman historian and he was notably more critical of Augustus, at least relative to what came before him. He was the first to effectively point out that historians since Augustus were too afraid to voice criticisms of whoever was Princeps.
>implying theres anything more alpha than fucking men in the ass while killing all of your enemies
trashing Sextus in Sicily
Making city of Rome a character and showing the improvements from Agrippa would be fun
there was slow simmering political intrigue through his reign, occasionally spiking in executions. the violence died down, but never ended
Also
>Tiberius biopic would be kino
That nigga was so boring the entire movie would be him hanging out at his villa and moaning about how he didn’t want to be emperor and how the only reason he was princeps was because his mommy pulled some strings
>there are sullafagd ITT RIGHT NOW
every ass hole in the late republic has some compelling reasoning behind their actions. Sulla destroyed the republic because Marius hurt his fee fees.
Caesar unironically destroyed the Republic, Sulla btfo the populists and gtfo after making reforms to stop people like Caesar
Sulla had every right to destroy the Republic though.
The only roman emperor who deserves a movie
Caesar managed to turn a corrupt constitutional republic into a defacto-monarchy within his lifetime. If he were alive today, he would be the first American dictator for life.
This biopic would be Reddit as fuck
you are clueless. remember there are people here who dont just read wikipedia like yourself and know what theyre talking about
>greatest General since Caesar (this is a fact by the way, dont bother arguing)
>was already co-Emperor with Augustus in the late years and even had a chair next to Augustus in the senate
>Criticised the senate for being too servile
>heavily superstitious man who was an expert in mythology
>proposal was submitted to rename the months September and October to Tiberius and Livius. Tiberius replied "What will you do if you have thirteen Caesars?"
>continued to make the Empire rich beyond its measures
he gets too much credit for that. Augustus was the one who really built a stable political order.
not to say Caesar did nothing, but he didn't build the new order alone
Augustus>Sulla>Marius>>>Caesar
Great casting
Marius started it you dumb shit, all because he was butthurt about Sulla stealing his thunder in Numidia and because he wanted control of Sulla’s Mithriadic Campaign even though he was old as fuck and had been consul for a record breaking amount of times. Sulla repeatedly bitched him out after Marius tried getting him killed. Not only that, but Marius waited until Sulla went away on the Mithriadic Campaign so he could sneakily march on Rome even tho he was an old dying decrepit man. Sulla was forced to make a hasty and unpopular peace with Mithridates so he could go back to Rome and (surprise) take back the city from Marius’ companions because Marius had actually fuckin died of old age before this.
All late republic fags are cancerous degenerates.
A kino about Publius Cornelius Scipio aka Gigachad aka The Africanus himself would be based.
Where is my mans bio pic
this is a thread for proper Roman figures.
take your byzantine mutts elsewhere
nah, Sulla broke precedent by marching his armies into Rome and taking over as dictator
As soon as that was done, pretty much anyone could take the role dictator and the republic was essentially useless
Where do you think Caesar got the idea from
>pretty much anyone could take the role dictator and the republic was essentially useless
"No"
I, Claudius is kino
Marius pulled some highly anti-republican fuckery, but Sulla was the one who marched on Rome.
>Thinking the empire died with the loss of the western provinces
Ignorance must be bliss
What we really need is the tragedy of Cato. One beacon of trve roman light swimming in a sea of degeneracy.
>greatest general since Caesar
Lmao Caesar lived like less than a century before him and there were no major conflicts since Octavian’s war, in which it’s laughable to suggest he was a better general than Agrippa. And yeah Tiberius was such a great general that when provincial garrisons immediately mutinied the moment he ascended he sent his son out with a note to them that pretty much said “please stop it :-(“. Germanicus was the one who had to fix shit and get things done in regards to the military.
>was co emperor with Augustus
Yeah that’s so fascinating that Augustus was unable to find a suitable heir or produce one himself for so long that he eventually conceded and gave the job to his stepson
>Criticized the senate
in his opening remarks to the senate he initially expressed he had no idea how to be emperor and literally asked them to tell him what to do and take on more rulership for themselves.
>renamed the months
Aha wow they should make a movie about that
>Continued to make the empire rich
Yeah we should give him due credit for inheriting Augustus’ success
He was a reclusive faggot who regularly ran away from being a leader. He had people killed over paranoid delusions. The only really based thing he did was making the head of the praetorian guard deliver a message to the senate, swearing he wouldn’t open it before he was on the senate floor, and having him announce his own execution.
>argues against a fact
not even going to read the rest. youre a retard.
Kys autist.
Which was in response to Marius sicking his mob of veterans on Rome to seize the senate and kill Sulla. Sulla escaped to his encampment and returned to take shit back.
its a fact and you still argue it like a moron.
read up on a subject before saying utter shit again
Tiberius before becoming emperor is more interesting than Tiberius as emperor
Especially when Augustus realises they just lost three legions in an ambush and is like "Get me Tiberius" even though Tiberius is in low key exile in Greece
That wasn’t me you stupid nigger. Hop back on Rome Total War you historically illiterate faggot. Tiberius was literally the Jeffrey Epstein of Rome fucking kids in esoteric rituals on his private island.
>y-you must play video games
nope nice try assuming what you clearly dont know
A film about Aurelian could be the greatest tragedy of the 21st century
>assuming what you clearly don’t know
Like when you assumed I was some Wikipedia-armchair historian and that you weren’t going to get completely shat on by me tonight?
each of the Republican warlords pushed it a step farther
Marius used his soldiers to dominate Rome
Sulla marched on Rome
Pompeius raised armies illegally, and then had his private warbands later sanctified
and so-on
they all took it one step farther
its an uneasy gradient from Marius to Augustus
>wikipedia historian
to which you are. Your posts proved that :-^)
While that user is wrong about "anyone" being able to do it, you aren't exactly setting a high bar. Catiline was literally a failson, and he still almost got away with it. Cicero had to rely on Crassus forging evidence so he could prove that Catiline was going to try and kill key members and then stage a coup, and they still almost fucking didn't do anything about it.
You’re right user they should make a movie about that nigga Tiberius who renamed the months
glad we agree