Oh, it's shit

i'm not the one trying to dab on a blue chip artist's work from 20 years ago. got any hot takes about how much you hate jeff koons?

A portion of the hype (aside from the obvious hype implied by the scope of the project) comes from the film being under lock and key aside from the irregular showing (mostly at galleries and museums). I say former because “the internet” (“whoah totally couldntve seen that one coming when i decided to 86 distribution rights even though i can supposedly bridge concepts and abstract imagery”~ matt barney). So naturally this thing got hyped out of proportion, and every prop along with the odd physical copy gets auctioned off at Southeby’s for an ungodly amount of money, especially considering it’s free on piratebay. And that folks is how we get the institutional theory of art, also known as “Why Modern Art Declined.”

Dont even start with me bitchboy. Go read Conspiracy of Art if you want to know my hot takes. This shit is pointless. Also I cant reiterate how art world bullshit aside, Barney’s greatest crime is unoriginality, which doubles down seeing as how the fucker had a Hollywood sized budget for this mediocre piece of shit.

Come at me faggot.

the props were sold through gladstone gallery, who produced the films. sotheby's doesn't sell new work except once for damien hirst as a pr stunt and that happened just weeks before lehman brothers collapsed

So it's basically like the million dollar worth piece of banana peel on the floor of a museum, in movie form? Who the fuck would watch this? Faggot ass hipsters?

if it's pointless than why are you wasting precious moments of your life posting about it Yas Forums, especially considering how you actually have to go out of your way to watch the series?

Cool story bro, I think Southeby's will work just fine as a conversational flag for “art world cronies” for most of the civilians interested, which is the real point I’m making.

not exactly because it looks like this

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Yes but, and I cannot stress this enough, the banana peel is a million times more valuable artistically, insofar as that can be argued to be canonical or whatever. Barney is just a faggot who can’t “muh conceptualize” his way out of his undergrad lectures.

people with a lot of money voluntarily buy things made by other people for a lot of money, you don't factor into this loop at all. is that what's paining your ass?

AAAAAAAH I COVERED MY NORMIE THINGS IN VASALINE IT'S ART.

gimme some specific examples of barney's failures in the cremaster cycle. did you actually watch it?

What’s paining my ass is assholes using “art” as shorthand for “commodity exchange” when they could just give each other handjobs or something.
inb4 dont tread on me dropping some redpills tier shite

Lol I fucking wish the pretentious "art" business dies and never comes back seriously

lol art is and always has been a terrible speculative investment. it's not even a good place to park your money

Is he eating a conehead or what?

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Yes, all fucking five sections. I find his whole gimmick to be a base translation of concepts into surrealist imagery, something that has been done IN FILM ALREADY by Bunuel and, to a lesser extent, but much more relevant to Barney’s lineage, Jodorowsky. The logic of the film is hyperexplicit (no thanks to the dude making sure he explains it every chance he gets in interviews and blurbs), which undermines any truly disorienting power it might have. After all, it becomes a visual feast, but like dude I’ve seen better feasts on tighter budgets. Gotta give me more than bitches sitting on airplanes staring at grapes and playing with hairpins for thirty minutes, and no that’s not a clever way of explaining ovulation like holy shit any sane person would want to slap an art school asshole irl for this shit.

I know dude, that’s what baffles me when dude’s like Barney enter the ring. Like dude go be a marketing director and save us the bad trip.

his teeth were smashed by irish mobsters re-enacting the masonic ritual slaying of hiram abiff

Yes. That is the Garthok's final form. Only the oldest un-narfable Garthoks assume this shape, and only do so when they see the three moons of Remulak align 1284 times in its lifetime.

I can guarantee you that every person who hates the Cremaster series loves the MCU

he did, that's why copies of the film were only sold to collectors. it's not like this shit was on network television

I can guarantee you you’re a nigger

i don't think you actually know what "surrealism" refers to or the political program it laid out. it's not lol so weird. nor is ovulation depicted in cremaster 1, the blimps are giant testicles. but even if it were, how do you think it should have been done?

lol are you his gf or something
seethe harder

So this is the First Order origin story?

i'm not a redditor plebian, I can tell you that much

>muh website wars
this site is +18

i wish matthew barney had directed nu-wars

no, you are a Yas Forums one

modern art and money laundering goes hand to hand, sure some artists still create honest pieces but the 90% is pure garbage, watching idiots praising and buying trash is the ultimate patrician spectacle

Im a ca in contemporary art, i think i know more about surrealism than you do. im keeping it nice and sweet, i have no desire to outline a treatise on barney’s influences here, theyre obvious enough for anyone with the rudimentary understanding of vid art. also yes it is lol are you bad at googling or did you just miss the whole grapes turning red thing? You should take a shot and watch them for yourself instead of arguing with strangers over the internet. It doesnt matter how I think it should be done, Im not the artist. But like is saying holy fuck whats your deal dude? are you actually Barney and bored in quarantine?

Cremaster Cycle is what happens when you let Chad make art

why do you write like a raymond chandler character

because im a shitposting at midnight after daydrinking because quarantine. also im a crossposter you pick up bad habits this way.

I want to see papers written on this, no joke

>the most important artist of his generation
>New York Times
that's the only endorsement I need to know this is complete Jewish subversion

oh come on, give me the treatise outline then. all you've written is different versions "matthew barney is a fraud" which is frankly a boring argument. talk about the movies, forget about the artspeak

i gave you my opinion, you didnt like it, said i didnt know what i was talking about, tried to “gotchya” on some shit you incorrectly googled, and im the one presenting boring arguments? do me a huge favor and kill yourself bud, thanks.

he was, he was the only unabashedly heterosexual white male who wasn't making zombie formalist work or engaged in white apologetics. feminists absolutely hate barney for that reason, btw, and he still gets a lot of shit from the indentity politics art nexus

Cremaster is such total and utter shit, the only part that was remotely interesting was the lady in the vintage car

He fucked a bunch of middle aged wine aunt art docents from mueseums to get where he is. He was a fuckboi hack.

but if you want a more interesting argument than one i can provide check out Keller and Ward’s Paradox of the Neo-Avant-Garde Blockbuster who treat this from the side of revolutionary performance art (which is shit i typically dont care about despite the job req). Should be on JSTOR.

sounds based

>NOOOOOOOOOOO STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE

Hey you can like it all you want asshole. Ten hours I wont get back, so i wont stop bitching about it

sounds like a pair of fags who are angry barney wasn't making work about the intersection of race and identity in decolonizing praxis

Well youre wrong. You sound like a fag who's mad because babby cant get spoonfed homogenized opinions on his anime website.

i'm the user who likes cremaster

That goes double for you then, faggot.

Matthew Barney is a giga chad

i'm going to continue liking the movies and there's nothing you can do to stop me. you know what? i even like river of fundament too!

Howd you get a rip of that? Considered hitting up my dude at Walker Arts because they have a massive archive but i wouldnt even know how to go about getting it transferred properly.

there was a bootleg torrent floating around a long long time ago, not sure how available it is still. i must've downloaded my copy back in 07-08. the audio wasn't great, pretty sure it's copied from the vhs edition. they were all on youtube at one point a few years back but no idea if that's still the case. i've kept my eye out for river of fundament for years now but it's never turned up