Remember when Tony snitched on one of his capos and everybody was fine with it?

Who would even object?
Silvio was the one who gave Tony the idea to remove him quietly.
Chris was just a loyal lapdog and didn't care
Paulie had a beef with him

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>everyone: Omg you guys tony is a badguy but he's so likeable and interesting! lol!
>writers in the final season via Milfy:Um..hey guys...did you know?...that tony is a...twisted sociopath?

Why did they try to harpoon their own character? tony isn't a sociopath he's a career criminal. There's a difference.

>He gets James Gandolfini's character sent away and nobody fussed.
It was weird for me to see Gandolfini be "The Man" for nearly a decade on The Sopranos and then be a jobber in like every movie he was in afterwards. Was really weird to have him be a FUCKING QUEER in The Mexican. youtube.com/watch?v=I2AjeXpxmI4

Murdering people out of passion not related to the job and isn't being a career criminal.

He probably didn’t want to be typecast and show off his range. Tv actors that are known for iconic roles find it hard to play anything other than characters similar to the one that they’re famous for. It’s a big reason why so many big tv actors fall into irrelevancy

>chokes the family's highest earning capo in his own kitchen
>backstabs his own uncle's leadership
>constantly promotes blatant favoritism to his incompetent junkie nephew
>immediately gets into beefs with old school legends when they get out of prison and either kills them or sets them up
How did he not get mutinied again?

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He did user. New York fuckin' killed him and absorbed NJ with the help of Paulie.

Well he got whacked in the end so he got what he deserved

Butchie did. With the help of Paulie, Carlo and Patsy

Frankly he should have just embraced it. Brad Pitt plays the coolest guy in virtually every film he stars in and no one really cares. In a better world where he had lived longer I imagine Gandolfini could have had a Charles Bronson-like career where he just played a tough guy. I think typecasting is pretty much unavoidable, Bryan Cranston is all around an amazing actor but I doubt he'll ever be the comedic actor again as seen in Malcolm in the Middle because now you just see him and think "Walter White."

wow it's almost as if mafiosi are all hypocritical pieces of shit that would shoot you in the back over 20 bucks

>This guy thinks the Mafia is like the movies
They're still in charge of the major cities. And doing just fine. They're also really nice.

He may have went back to playing a criminal in movies and shows had he lived. His last role was in the Drop which is about two brothers owing money to loansharks

>organized crime
>nice
Not even the legal Wall Street mafia can be described as "nice" what kind of fucked up metric you have to have to call people who steal and murder for a living "nice"

I dunno what to tell you, my boss is Eastern European mob and he treats me like the son I never had, still paying me when most people doing similar work I'm in have been totally furloughed thanks to the Quarantine. And for the record my job is totally legit and so is the business but I know where he and his fortune/backers originate from. The only thing I don't like about him is his Lawyer who is the 2020 equivalent to David Kleinfeld in Carlito's Way. My city's law & order is cartoonishly corrupt.

My dad works at Nintendo too.

It's what they do. it's called Dropping A Dime.

Tony was a product of his enviroment.

Yeah, if only he stayed in school after the first semester he would have been an excellent academic

You really don't know what big cities are like my friend. Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, etc. It's mob. And it will continue being mob because they have an iron grip on the politics.

>tony isn't a sociopath he's a career criminal.
Dude he blew Tony B's head off with a shotgun. His own cousin. Now yes in the grand scheme of things it was the right thing to do because Tony was going to have the most vicious murder be put upon him but you gotta be a sociopath to have the nerve to kill a loved one like that.

He's a textbook sociopath.

Tony isn't likeable he throws tamper tantrun every two or three episodes for no reason, shits on everyone of his "friends", lies to everyone, and wonders why people hate him

No. Maybe if Livia allowed the family to leave Jersey and let Johnny Boy take the legitimate job in Vegas he would have turned out...not a sociopath. Did you even watch the show?

chase wrote tony while reading the DSM-5 description of a sociopath, the guy is literally a textbook example and that's no coincidence. the fact that tony is in any way likeable is indicative of how a sociopath can worm their way into your heart and fuck with your head. janice and livia are sociopaths but since their scheming is laid bare out in the open we can see right form the start that they're fucked up people, that's why everyone hates those characters and not tonys

Tony killed Tony B to save him a miserable painful death and to prevent a war.

Fuck Feech. He was ruining poker night.

he was dangerous, as much as ritchie

Viewers react differently when more civillians suffer. Tony otoh actually takes revenge on murdered innocents in one instance (whoa and horse).
In G2 Micheal orders the killing of two innocent whoares too btw, just to extort the senator. It's pretty fucked up if you think about it.

Thinking back at this, I thought Tony liked him for being honest and old school. Never realized that the truck full of TV screens was a bait laid by Tony.

The barber scissors as an indication that Paulie was in on the hit on Tony is really subtle I feel like, but how did I miss this betrayal?

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Why didn't they show more of Vito's secret goomar? she was kinda nice...

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This

remember Paulie?
>beat a pregnant 20 year old to death for no good reason
>Tony gives him a slap on the wrist
>may possibly have burned down a barn with a horse inside it to pay for medical bills
>Tony kills him

*ralphie

He only got off with the stripper thing because people were around to see Tony breaking code.

He did

The story is how his incompetent leadership weakened his crew so much that when he had to fight a war he had no one left to depend on

What

Why do you write like a stupid fucking nigger and why did nobody insult you for your stupid fucking post

I agreed with Tony when he spazzed out for killing the girl. Ralphie was a real pain in his ass at the time.
However for the horse ? Really ? I never liked Ralph but I sided with him during his argument.
Tony is a fucking moron really

His leadership is pretty competent, as far as mafia leadership goes
The story is about the mafia being completely outdated and on the way out in the modern world, not having any of the social institutions it historically relied upon to live (tight knit italian immigrant communities, lax law enforcement, etc.)
He was unironically less worse than the other candiates and nobody wanted the job anyway
Him having the balls to do all that was why he was boss in the first place

Tony is a sociopath and cares more about his horse pet than for a stupid 20 years old toastie who beats up her kid
tbqh, I'm pretty sure I'm not a sociopath, but I would probably care more about my pet horse too

This is delusion.

I can't imagine being this dense.
Is English not your first language?
Obviously Tony didn't forgive him. Do you get how, especially with the accent, whore sounds so much like horse? "It was a fuwkin hoooorse!" Ralphie says this as he's begging for his life. Don't call it a stretch, this is exactly the kind of shit the Sopranos writing room does.

Feech was a thorn in Tony's side and ridiculed his family's power structure, however Tony didn't want to make an example out of Feech or else it would've looked bad so he just had Feech's greed take himself out of the picture in the most non-violent way possible.

>>chokes the family's highest earning capo in his own kitchen
Ralph basically asked for it given how many times he went out of his way to do something retarded.
>constantly promotes blatant favoritism to his incompetent junkie nephew
This I agree with was the worst thing Tony did, but I feel like Tony did it because Chrissy was young and up-and-coming so he tried everything to overwhelm him so that he wouldn't take Tony's limelight from him.
>How did he not get mutinied again?
There's a chance he did at the end of the show but we won't ever know unless Many Saints of Newark hints at what happened in the diner at the end.

Well you better hope that you aren't asked for "a favour" from your chill mobster boss or else you might be more worried about swimming with the sardines then you will getting furloughed.

Is that Contrapoints lmfao

Tony promoted Chrissy over and over again because he eventually wanted him to be his street boss while he could retire peacefully and give his orders through him (and basically set him up to take prison for him should anything happen), he spells it out to Melfi

>gives you a sealed bag and tells you to hold on to it for a little while

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