How successful would he have been if even half of his victims fought back?

well in most Cormac McCarthy books there's a guy who represents an abstract concept, Chigurh at least seems to think he is fate or destiny or something. I think he's full of shit based on his near demise from random chance and is probably one of the few Cormac McCarthy characters you actually COULD kill, but you'd have to get him on an even playing field. Best odds imo is probably 50/50 just running at him guns blazing.

Now if Judge Holden is out for you then you're probably fucked even if you're in a tank or something.

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what was he gonna do, chigurh had him at gunpoint. not much you can do other than roll over.
the sheriff never ends up finding chigurh so that wouldnt have done much. I imagine he interviewed her off screen

>Carson
If he rushed him at the stairs he had half a chance
, He had the high ground just like in ROTS.

You know how this is gonna turn out , don't you ?

>I think you do

That's fair enough, but the point still stands in the case of the gas station inheritor, the chicken coop owner, driver Chigurh pulls over towards the beginning, and most notably NOT the fat trailer park lady.

Had the gas station man simply been more surly, would Anton had brought out the quarter? Same with the driver he pulled over, had he not complied would Anton have turned physical or simply let him go?

He was dead at that point

Was he? Llewelyn managed to get away, I'm sure Carson would have figured himself a dead man were he in his shoes.

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>Llewelyn managed to get away
Temporarily.
Woody knew the guy's professional reputation first hand and knew there wasn't any point in running because it would mean cutting off every connection you have and spending the rest of your life looking over your shoulder. Might as well just eat a bullet like a man than live on borrowed time like that.

But what if Carson or Llewelyn had managed to kill Chigurh? Llewelyn got pretty close.

Carson and Llewelyn had completely different mindsets and died for different reasons, Chigurh never actually caught up with him mind you.

>Llewelyn got pretty close.
He shot him in the leg and it didn't even slow him down.
He's as much of a metaphysical terminator as he is a human being.

Yeah, that's called pretty fucking close. Had Llewelyn been a better shot he might have killed him. Who's to say Carson couldn't have, if he wasn't so prideful.

Chigurh vs Sneed? This is a battle I can't miss.

>it didn't even slow him down.
It did though, the movie shows that it fucks him up, theres also the car crash scene at the end. Chigur is human and as vulnerable as everyone else. His power comes from his ability to take people off guard and plan ahead.

But both terminators were killed by humans....they used machines, but, still....

Fuck of Zoomer (or Indian male). Eat shit

>It did though
He chases him down the street with a fresh gunshot wound.
He's determined.
Also yes, obviously, he is a human being, but that doesn't mean he's not a personification of bigger metaphysical ideas from a storytelling perspective.

If I remember correctly, in the book chigurh tells a story about him getting arrested (e.g. what put him in the back of that police cruise in the opening scene) and he kills a guy outside a restaurant with one punch.

He's no judge holden but I wouldn't want to be on his bad side.

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Is he a personification of those ideas, or does he only fancy himself as being so much? And are you suggesting he is successful through sheer tyranny of will, or that is there something greater at work?

he's got the magnetism of a cold sociopath. I mean, his deadless eyes gotta give you some hell of a scare.

They left out the best part of the book. Anton breaks down after escaping, he sits down next to some old woman and bares his soul
>I mean, why do you think I was after the money? To get away from this...to get away from all this bullshit you know? I'm tired, I really am. I don't want to be feared anymore, it's like this dead weight I'm always carrying around. I just need some peace

>Is he a personification of those ideas, or does he only fancy himself as being so much? And are you suggesting he is successful through sheer tyranny of will, or that is there something greater at work?
Was it just a regular coin?

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good answer user, you may live

Still successful. He knows how to approach situations and he approaches most of them so casually because he knows he'll surprise them. If someone were to fight back, he would approach it differently.

So what of pic related? He flat out left after she didn't budge.

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Chigurh is the result of sin. It’s also why the only thing that can legitimately hurt him is compassion and selflessness in the form of the boys who literally give him the shirt off of their back. Chigurh literally tells them that they “never saw” him. They are the only good characters in the novel/film. I’ve tried to make this point a bunch of times here in the past so I don’t really feel like going into detail again

you cant fight back someone with that hair cut

shit movie made for brainlets trying to learn what is the definition of KINO

What about Carla Jean? In the movie version anyways, she breaks him down in an almost merciful way. His eyes seem watery and tired at that point, his expression no longer so confident, almost sorrowful.

eat sneed

He heard there was someone in the bathroom. Had she been alone he probably would have just killed her.

Before he heard that sound he was pretty visibly vexed over her non-compliance though. It was a feeble attempt.

he couldn't kill someone in the bathroom?

Carla Jean has to die because Llewelyn’s selfishness and greed directly led to the suffering of others. The whole idea is akin to the Dostoyevskyian concept of shared suffering as a direct result of sins which seem singular. Chigurh even went so far as to offer to spare Carla by offering Llewelyn a chance to be selfless and atone for his sin (sacrifice) but Llewelyn is so greedy and selfish that his sin ends up getting his wife killed. Llewelyn is the villain of the story, chigurh is merely the psychical and spiritual consequence of his selfish actions. McCarthy is very Orthodox in his thinking and a lot of people misread him as a nihilist when in fact he’s acutely in line with the theological problem of evil and suffering. He’s very much like Flannery O’Connor in this way

He could smell the bear shit the guy had taken and didn't like his odds.

Or Chigurh is just a pyschopath? I'm not discrediting your post, but is that the position the Coen Bros were taking? Or rather, is it supposed to be directly what you posted or merely ambiguous?

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Because there might have been so.eone in the other room he spared her? Doesnt he murder multiple people at two separate hotels, wouldnt that be the same logic with him assuming there are people in the hotel rooms?

I think the point is, it doesn't matter. If he's just a psychopath working for the cartels or an avatar of supernatural forces because the point is you can't run from the inevitable, and how people confront that defines their character.

But what is so inevitable? Why is it inevitable? I mean if you believe in fate, that's one thing.

Kek

Sooo do the coens believe in fate or not?

I never understood this image, wasn't the judge naked and toting a shit covered retard in this part?

not very, thats why he acted the way he did, to give himself the best advantage possible.

He’s clearly not simply a psychopath. Carson tries to tell the cartels that he operates on his own principles. They later refer to him as a “loose cannon”. Chigurh operates as an agent of chaos but the chaos only occurs after Llewelyns original sin of selfishness and greed. No Llewelyn, no chigurh. Calling it fate or destiny isn’t entirely accurate, as I said before, the right word would be consequence—or if we’re sticking with the theological interpretation, then we can call if judgement. As I said before, chigurh attempts to offer Llewelyn a chance for penance by willingly “giving up” as a way of atoning for his sin, and thereby stop the chaos that ensues. We also know that chigurh isn’t bound by the cartels at all, even though he seems to work for them initially.

The scene with chigurh in the gas station is also an examination of sin, as the gas station attendant is guilty of sloth. He never accomplished anything himself, rode the coattails of his wife’s family, and has no clear ambition or drive beyond his very empty life. This is why the shot with the candy wrapper is important because chigurh is literally “unwrapping” the attendants life and also why chigurh doesn’t throw it away but keeps it on the table—as a symbol of the attendants empty and wasted life. The only reason chigurh doesn’t kill him is because of the mysterious coin flip, which is merely a McGuffin. As Carla jean said, “The coin ain’t got nothin to do with it. It’s just you.” The attendant got off because his sin was largely self inflicted and thus he has been given a second chance by chigurh to try and make something with whatever remains of his life

I agree with this to a degree but I would've inferred (it also harkens back to some of what the Judge talks about in BM) that after he kills Carla Jean and is immediately in a car accident that the same system he believes in and acts on behalf of has reprimanded him, and he knows it. When Carla Jean refused to take the offer of a game of chance to be spared (by accurately assessing that coin decides nothing, Anton does, and he places belief in the coin to relieve himself of responsibility), Anton still kills her, violating the conditions of the game he laid out, and is a deviation from the system he claimed subservience to. For his transgression, the same 'accounting' system (a sort of Gnostic, mechanistic God) drives a car into him, the first instance of bad luck he has.

based

If I use a trick coin do you still have a fifty/fifty shot at choosing correctly?

I should say maybe a sociopath then.

My point is, who assigned Chigurh to be an arbiter of fate, or rather consequence? What gives him the right? Are his pursuits not also selfish?

I see. So HE believes in all this shit.

they didn't fight back, though. Because that's the modern age we live in.