kind of interested in films about debunking popular fakes like the patterson-gimlin footage, any suggestions?
Kind of interested in films about debunking popular fakes like the patterson-gimlin footage, any suggestions?
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>fake
>y-yeah, real animals/apes totally have perfectly flat, perfectly white, perfectly rectangular featureless pads on the bottoms of their feet haha
ok schizo
Bigfoot is fake as hell. Everyone has an HD camera/video camera in their pocket and yet we never see any high quality footage or photos of Bigfoot.
If you believe in Bigfoot, you might as well believe in unicorns, fairies, leprechauns, chupacabra, and God.
the patterson-gimlin footage has never been debunked. there are youtube channels that fix the footage and show you musculature in the thigh (specifically a torn quadriceps muscle) which would have been irrelevant to fake since it's taken decades to clean up, enhance, stabilize, color correct and expose this small detail. there are also other useless details (it's got a strap around itself with a pouch, it moves the pouch from one side of it's body to the other), the multiple other 'creatures' in the background and on screen for fractions of a second.
here is the likely situation
>this thing smelled the horses and approached for a closer look
>saw the men and drew their attention, to distract them from the other things nearby
>dipped out when it mistook their camera for guns
parts of america are so remote that no humans have ever stepped there. the country is too rugged to map or survey, and various humanoid things live there, some human prehuman cross species which is probably in the low thousands population and travels long distances quickly, sharing territory and dietary requirements with bears.
lmao
the fact that I can move the stars with my mind but just choose not to has also never been debunked
There are huge swaths of jungle we have never seen and new species are discovered all the time in these remote areas. To assume we have discovered everything on this planet is nonsense, especially when we have barely mapped a fraction of the oceans.
a reproduction would've have been trivially simple to demonstrate, with a small budget and limited filming equipment. it's been 50 years and nothing has come close to a believable recreation. the footage was shot by hillbilly yokels who were hard on cash. this is the greatest forgery in the history of film, or authentic (and trash shaky garbage) footage of a real bipedal hominid standing around 7 to 8 feet tall and moving rapidly away from the camera at distance.
i'm not assuming any of that, just that an 8 foot man-shaped ape that has never been filmed in hd despite everyone carrying an hd camera in their pockets today and who's most convincing film evidence features obviously fake feet-bottoms probably isn't real.
Oooooooh watch out.
He's gonna post a link to audio as proof that bifgoot exists.
Komodo Dragon, Platypus, Okapi, Gorilla, Manatee, Spot-bellied Eagle-Owl, Hoan Kiem Turtle, Midwife Toad, Pelican and The King Of Saxony Bird-Of-Paradise were all claimed by scientists and rational people as fake/mythological/hoaxes until they were proven. The platypus especially. To deny something as impossible is antithetical to science and you are not a rational person if you say something is impossible. Improbable? Sure. But not impossible.
>parts of america are so remote that no humans have ever stepped there.
This is a modern myth btw. Back in the early days of The US the main export was lumber and they cut fucking everything down. Most of what you think is old forest that no human has ever set foot in is new growth that's only 1-300 years old. You wouldn't fucking believe how much of America has been clearcut, especially the places where Bigfoot supposedly resides.
>Everyone has an HD camera/video camera in their pocket and yet we never see any high quality footage or photos of Bigfoot.
Yeah it's almost like its an elusive, likely endangered creature or something.
>huge swaths of jungle
This guy is a thinking planning man who tries his hardest to GTFO as soon as he sees any people in his jungle, because they killed his whole tribe and as far as he knows he's living in the post-apocalypse running from demons. But we still have plenty of documentation on him because of what he leaves behind.
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Several people have examined the film, respected experts. Lots of them say it's fake and that they could reproduce it for cheap, but this comes largely from complaints that if the footage WAS fake, how come other suits made by costume artists for Hollywood weren't as good? There's plenty to read up on about this. The gait movement is said to be inhuman as well.
Well I'm sure you know better than the camera-experts, wildlife experts and biology experts that couldn't prove it was fake but whatever.
>fake
OK so forests don't exist now?
What kind of dumbshit argument is this?
It was already proven fake, dum-dum.
>massive hairy ape
>easy and cheap DNA sequencing
and still nothing. I wonder if schizos will ever wonder why there is an inverse relationship between humanity's ability to accurately record video and audio and incidences of the supernatural.
>NOOOOOOO IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT ANIMALS HAVEN'T BEEN DISCOVERED YET! WE'VE DISCOVERED EVERYTHING! BIGFOOT BEING REAL IS AN UNPOPULAR BELIEF! HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY GO AGAINST WHAT'S POPULAR!?!?!
love how desperately everyone claiming it's real in this thread is avoiding explaining the second post and OP pic with the feet bottoms, please explain in what reality that isn't an obvious smoking-gun that it's a costume. again, in case you missed it
>perfectly flat, perfectly white, perfectly rectangular featureless pads on the bottoms of feet
>deliberately misrepresenting arguments
Why are bigfoottards like this?
[citation needed]
Is there any docs about this fake shit?
>supernatural
Bigfoot isn't supernatural in anyway. I've experienced 'paranormal' stuff and so has my family. It was so bad we had to bless the house (it didn't work lol). But I'm still sceptical despite my experiences.
That's literally his argument though.
>Bigfoot can't hide because deforestation
It's retarded. You're only agreeing with it because you have been taught that considering the possibility that undiscovered animals exist goes against the hip young atheist hive-mind.
But that's literally not in the footage.
We discovered this last year. We had no idea it existed until we found it. We discovered another flying squirrel in China; mammals are the easiest animals to spot and record and yet we still missed it. In a population of 1.5bn, it was missed by scientists.
>We discovered this last year.
Christ almighty what is it? It is legitimately scaring me. I thought this was Photoshopped.
it literally is, you're in denial
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look at its fucking feet
It's a spider. Pelican Spider, as the filename says.
I'm not seeing it.
Daily reminder: Primatologists couldn't "debunk" the Patterson-Gymlan footage. Your fat armchair-researcher ass isn't going to do it.
>patterson-gimlin footage
>fake
lol!
>but there are still undiscovered species
I love this argument because it seems to imply that the kinds of new species we regularly discover are 6-20 foot abominations that have huge biomass needs and
No, retards. When we discover new species, it's usually something like a new type of insect in some cave in New Zealand or a new type of colorful bird in some unpopulated Polynesian island. You know, little animals that don't have large biomass and are able to evade human detection because they leave little trace of their existence?
But we're supposed to believe that in California (most populated state in the US with huge hiking and outdoor rec subculture) in the year 2020 that there's an 8 foot tall hominid species that is active in the wilderness? And that no one has ever been able to produce a new piece of footage because it's just that smart and elusive?
Okay, fags. Go waste more money on your tacticool shit to compensate for your tiny dicks.
miss this big nigga like you wouldn't believe
That's because it's a spider, you fucking retard.
We're talking about a 8-12 foot hominid that is supposedly out there, despite the fact that humans can't find trace of its fecal matter, waste, etc.
Holy shit, are you going to tell me next that bigfoot must surely exist because we just recently discovered a new type of bacteria in the mariana trench?
The answer is simple, really. He's the American version of the Fae folk. There's plenty of mythical basis for the idea that iron protects you from the Fae and repels supernatural beings. Even God himself couldn't do shit against some guys with iron chariots according the the bible. England lost access to its fae faster because the smaller size meant that the concentration of processed iron on the isles drove them away quicker than it could on the continent and later America, and so you saw tales of the supernatural and cryptids die out faster there than in the "wild" America. The first push of driving them out was the transcontinental railways, those great iron bands made sure they were locked away into smaller divisions and then the ever-encroaching steel and technology made them retreat further and further until they had to leave entirely, same as happened in England long before.
Anyone spotting bigfoot today is a liar, because there's no way the fae would be able to go anywhere near someone carrying all the modern technology we bring with us on hikes today, even if you managed to stumble on the last refuge that's far enough from the world of steel and electricity. All those "ill-prepared" hikers going off trail with no modern tools? They're not lost, they're enslaved by fae just like all our ancestors were afraid of being when going off the map with no protective iron.
>denial denial denial
Bigfoot-tards are always the type of fat losers who waste their money on tacticool shit to make themselves look like hardened rugged individualists in defiance of le state boogeyman.
Eat shit, you stupid inbreds.
>The Giant Squid isn't real! You're all stupid!
>Oh wait, it's real.
>The Coelacanth isn't real! You're all stupid!
>Oh wait, it's real.
>The Bili Ape isn't real! You're all stupid!
>Oh wait, it's real.
So how many times are we going to do this? Are we just expected to forget these things and dozens of others like them happened?
Daily reminder that these fat "skeptics" aren't guided by logic; they're guided by conformity, and peer-pressure.
>christcucks are also bigfoot tards
Color me surprised.
Go adopt some more niggers into your family.
>despite the fact that humans can't find trace of its fecal matter, waste, etc.
Shit literally biodegrades in days, often less.
Also how are you going to tell a bigfoot turd from a bear turd or any other turd?
You are a living embodiment of the Dunning Kruger effect.
why u s0 mad?
The point of the post was to refute the myth about America having all these untouched forests where no man has walked. It doesn't, that shit was all clear-logged back when America got rich entirely on lumber exports for the world's navies.
>projecting this hard
Holy shit this is pathetic. Did a Bigfoot-believer steal your fucking girlfriend or something? There is no other reason to be this hostile and irrational.
You are such a fucking faggot.
>Primatologists couldn't
It was one dude, a bigfooter who claims to have been a sceptic specialist.
>no argument, just shitposting
Dude we've discovered new apes literally this fucking year (technically 2007, but officially recorded this year). We discovered two new dolphin species this year. You know, big mammals. We also discovered another species of self-reproducing lizards, part of the lesbian lizard sub-group, in a Vietnam restaurant terrarium display. We discovered a new iguana on Galapagos, one of the most famous islands in the world. We miss shit. An intelligent ape could hide.
Again, GORILLAS were literally considered to be mythological but then people went into the mountain jungles and found them.
>It was one dude
Yeah bro, only one guy has seen and tried to debunk the P-G Footage. One guy.
>It doesn't, that shit was all clear-logged
But that's literally not true. America still has massive forests.
Why are you claiming "they were all clear-cut"? That's PROVABLY untrue? Are you just uninformed.
>Also how are you going to tell a bigfoot turd from a bear turd or any other turd?
By not being some city slicker faggot who can't track prey and estimate population sizes by the scat?
Daily reminder that the Scientific Community couldn't prove the actual existence of gorillas as something that wasn't mythical/fictional until 1902.
190 fuckin' 2.
>and God
get a load of this guy
>We're talking about a 8-12 foot hominid that is supposedly out there
Yeah, in large areas devoid of human presence.
>"It's possible an undiscovered primate exists."
>"*IMMEDIATE SEETHING ANGER AND HOSTILITY*"
I will never, ever understand this mentality.
How many of these new mammal species were discovered in USA?
>get presented with facts
>"lol ur a faggot!"
""""Skeptics"""", everyone.
this kills the cryptid naysayer.
>plausible species and variations of all ready documented species
>Implausible and spectacular species with no known documented sighting with the exception of a 8mm 10 sec clip from the sixties which is most likely a man in a gorilla outfit.
>"But the way he moves, the way he walks, the way the light hit the suit, it looks like real fur and it cant be fake"
Daily reminder that these fat basementdwelling "truuuuthers" arent guided by logic but a inherent willfull ignorance towards anything that doesnt conform to the "Space daddy made me and has a special purpose for me" narrative.
I love how none of the Captain Disillusion-cultists ITT have responded to this.
Bigfoot is fake. So are Skinwalkers. The woods are safe. You have nothing to fear
it's just the global warming version of history. imagine having such a bad brain for sizes where you think an entire continent was logged. you're dealing with a repeater who is just regurgitating his spoonfeeding.
THAT'S what you couldn't understand? Christ. You see, back when the forests were clear-logged by stages that meant that any population of bigfoots hiding in those forests would have had to leave or get discovered, and that people were all over the forests all across North America. This means 1.) There's no place in North America where no man has ever stepped foot that could support an entire population, and 2.) there's no ancient untouched forests where Bigfoot could have been hiding all along safe from the loggers. Because the forests that most Americans think of as "untouched" were in fact logged to hell and back, it was just so far back that the forest regrew on its own instead of modern methods of replanting.
>plausible species and variations of all ready documented species
They weren't considered "plausible" when people like you were screaming about them being "sky daddy conspiracy theories" or whatever.