At the time of their release, did comic book fanboys care that Tim Burton’s Batman killed people?

At the time of their release, did comic book fanboys care that Tim Burton’s Batman killed people?

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people didnt have the internet to tell them things are good or bad

Most people were too busy wondering how a good movie like '89 Batman could have a garbage sequel like Returns

Truth

IIRC a portion of fans did care, if only because of the inaccuracy when compared to the comics. Personally I think that helps make this the most interesting screen adaption (along with Returns, which may not be perfect but is certainly iconic and contextually fascinating)

Too busy watching the best Joker

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*blocks your path*

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batman didn't kill anyone, though. he just let them die.

He straight up murders Penguin's henchmen at the beginning of Batman Returns

He also blows up the Axis Chemicals factory with all the Joker’s henchman in it.

This, that’s why nobody seemed to care about Harvey Dent being a black guy without internet telling them

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At the time, TDKReturns came out and fans were open to different versions of Batman. If the "nooooo my heckin Baterino doesn't kill" crowd existed before Batman TAS, they didn't show up in the letters page of comics or Starlog magazine etc

Fans didn't think Keaton was a good choice at first, then they watched it and thought he was good

Boomer here, owned that t-shirt originally.
Can confirm Keaton casting was treated with derision although this was reversed from early reviews.

I remember nobody on the Internet turning black Kingpin into a political debate

He was cast because he was the best choice, that's why. As for Harvey Dent no one gave a shit because he had like 4 lines

* I'm talking about MCDuncan in Daredevil 2003

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Hey you start pointing guns at people or trying to karate fight them next to a railing shit is bound to happen

I think the whole movie was seen with skepticism until Jack Nicholson was announced to play The Joker.

Then the trailer changed everyone’s mind before the movie came out.

Stacey Keach, Powers Boothe, Brian Dennehy would have worked

>Powers Boothe as Two Face

Much dick

If more black men were like Billy Dee Williams, I'm sure you wouldnt see people having a problem with it.

Bill Murray was supposed to play Batman first and people got mad. Then they announced Micheal Keaton and people still got mad.

>dad go, save yourself!

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Batman has always killed people.

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He smiles while doing it.

Tim Burton's Batman is what adaptations should be like. Taking something and doing your own take on the source material. Who the fuck wants Batman that is exactly like the comics when we already have that.

The masses lack vision

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Not really no.

Nah Returns was well received by the public, it was mostly critics and parents of traumatised kids who had bad things to say about it.

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People has more problems with the rubber muscle suit.

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bretty gud
I never accepted duncan for that role, he was too weak an actor
(granted the movie wasn't high grade itself

does he suffocate or something?

Literally nobody gave a fuck because we all werent all pedantic pricks

he's crying, you can see the tears flow under the door

batman is so mean

This.
There's going to be hundreds of Batman movies when all is said and done. We can't have some that actually deviate and do their own thing?
For some reason we can have Shakespeare adaptations that take place in the modern day and have guns, but god forbid, in this Batman movie we have a monstery looking Penguin?

I guess it's because of the perception. Shakespeare is considered mature and high art while Batman is considered for kid's tie-in toys at McDonalds. Or at least it was more like that back in the early 90s.

Probably the same 2 or 3 comic book retards that care these days. Difference is there was no internet then.

Not defending Batman, but Shakespeare during his time was considered pleb, casual and lowbrow. He was the Marvel movies of this era. Blockbusters full of forbidden love, treason, murder, secret pacts, ebin plot twists, more murder and all flashy shit for the people who were never cultured enough for actual theater.

99% of Batman medias is still a shit and probably only a few hand picked stories plus some the movies are worth mentioning at all.

sure, but you know how the majority of western society puts Shakespeare on a pedestal. You can see it everywhere all the time. My point was of course it's going to have more creative leeway than Batman in film and mediums outside of comics, especially back then when Batman was just straight up considered for kids and companies were hungry for a big piece of the Batman merchandise. They weren't going to sacrifice that so some asshole could do an arty Batman villain.

I love how Yas Forums is so defensive over muh comics like those shitty rags haven't ALWAYS bent over backwards and fucked their own asses to cash in on the success of the movies. Case in point with Batman 89 being a huge mega blockbuster, there was literally a story where Gotham's skyline got blown up and miraculously hidden behind all the modern buildings were the Anton Furst style buildings, and that became the new aesthetic for the comics.

>In a 1992 storyline, a man obsessed with Pinkney's architecture blew up several Gotham buildings in order to reveal the Pinkney structures they had hidden; the editorial purpose behind this was to transform the city depicted in the comics to resemble the designs created by Anton Furst for the 1989 Batman film.

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Sad!

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>* I'm talking about MCDuncan in Daredevil 2003
I've seen his acting. I'm sure he could pull off a pretty good kingpin. Aslong as he's not throwing in "ahhh shieeet" or other random bullshit it's cool

literally no one gave a shit that he killed people because people werent pussy's back then

they were too butthurt over Keaton's casting to care.

>He smiles while doing it.
God is the movie worth the bother to watch? I remember all the older batman movie being crap

The 1989 Batman is great. A little dated by today's standards, but if you like the 80s you'll like it. Returns is beautifully shot and Catwoman is sexy, but the plot is hot garbage.

Neck yourself my man.

wtf does the 2nd panel say???

"Sometimes you have to ****** the rules" ??

Why is the text unreadable.

Weird that Forever is meant to be a direct continuation of the Burton films but Dent is a white guy

"ignore" like how you ignored your teachers and turned out to be an illiterate retard

Movie producers will never give a shit about you loser they make superhero movies for people who don’t read your stupid books made for little boys

they retconned this later by saying batman contacted the police and they arrested him
but the entire point of locking him in there was that if he was arrested he would just be handed over to the soviets and face no punishment

Not as crap as the newer movies

KGBeast? More like KGBased.

Batman has always killed people. Has he ever gone back to provide medical care to the thug who he just gave a brain aneurysm to? No? Then that guy died. Did he check to make sure he didn’t accidentally sever a guys spinal cord when he jumped on his head from a warehouse roof? No? That guy died. Did he check to make sure the guy he kicks into the river could swim? No? That’s another dead bad guy. Cops accidentally kill arrestees all the time. The human body is hardy but attack it in the right place in the right way and you’ll die. You can go into cardiac arrest from being struck in the chest too hard. Does Batman conduct CPR/First aid for every guy he knocks unconscious? No? They’re dead.

Batman the Animated Series is more of a direct continuation.
Twoface was black in it as well.

He looks more Italian/Mediterranean to me

>did comic book fanboys care that Tim Burton’s Batman killed people?
yes

Yes. Black.

That's different from deliberately killing them, though. Obviously he has to take a risk of killing people, but there's a difference between punching someone and accidentally killing him, and using a gun to blow the same guy's head off.

Sheeeiiitttt

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>the plot is hot garbage
It depends on how important narrative is to you. Penguin, Shreck and Catwoman are all dark reflections of different sides of Bruce Wayne: orphaned freak, billionaire playboy and revenge-driven vigilante, respectively. Interesting that they kept that plot element so low key that it apparently went over the heads of retards like you

people get punched and hit their head on something all the time and sometimes die in bar fights etc

batman has killed at least thousands of people.

I liked Dunkingpin. Wish he was a little fatter, but he was unironically the best part of that movie.

>Oh Peter, thank you...
>[Uncle Ben dies smiling]

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why is batman naked under his cape?