Abortion is murder

Reminds me of those Yas Forums pictures where wojak is getting sucked into the yellow guy's asshole

>the opposite political spectrum of you. That it spends its entire life on welfare and never gets a job.
>Yas Forums
>opposite

makes sense

> You shouldn't be allowed to make a decision that affects nobody but yourself and is a net 0 to the world.

You fail to recognize that human beings are a product of their environment and their genetics.

haha baby got jucied

late term does

yeah, no shit. it's a christian film

>ywn help your son choose his first fedora

Just plain evil.

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I don't fail to recognize that at all. But people can still make their own choices. Every nigger chooses to life a shit tier monkey life. A baby hasn't made those choices yet, so there's no moral argument for killing it.

You're an absolute dumb fuck. Sorry I ever engaged you in conversation.

Aren't you describing Eugenics?

That wouldn't happen because I'm not a shitty father who would have unplanned children and raise them to be drug addicts.
Maybe permit it when the baby will come out retarded or if he's caused by rape, but for the rest just teach those stupid niggers to use a rubber. Is that so hard to ask?

abortion is unethical but it should still be legal

>nobody but yourself
Gotta get better bait mate

OP, why do you hate common sense?

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Oh, so only babies can be born that fit YOUR criteria? Don't you see how absolutely totalitarian this idea is?

>people are blank slates
Retard

>strawman arguments
Retard

You should be sorry you were ever born at all.

Abortion isn't good. But neither are the pro-life groups. If these people gave a fucking shit about the baby they'd be screaming for adoption and medical reform. They'd be funneling money, both into the medical and legal sides of convincing unwed teenage mothers to carry the baby with their needs taken care of under the stipulation that the baby goes to a loving home when it's all said and done. There would be mountains of paperwork to ensure she doesn't change her mind the second they push the baby out, but again, none of this is even happening.
Pro-Life is just fanatics who want to see a baby born and don't give a fuck what happens a second after.

>They'd be funneling money, both into the medical and legal sides of convincing unwed teenage mothers to carry the baby with their needs taken care of under the stipulation that the baby goes to a loving home when it's all said and done.
None of this would change anything because the whole problem in the first place is that hypersexualized women are using abortion as a contraceptive. They don't want to give birth at all.

100% this.

Much the opposite. I love life and all living creatures. But you are a serious dumb fuck.

>I love life and all living creatures.
Unless they're human babies, apparently.

Yes it does motherfucker

>if a person is born into a bad environment that means they will grow up to be a bad human!!!
>fails to ignore all the humans who came from a bad start and now own more money than you ever will
bad situations build strong people

Physical deformity is real and it wasn't invented by me.

Here, let me put it another way.
The classic "Beethoven" pro-life argument
But I prefer Ben Carson, because he's a cool guy.
Benjamin Carson was born in Detroit, Michigan. His mother, Sonya, had dropped out of school in the third grade, and married when she was only 13. When Benjamin Carson was only eight, his parents divorced, and Mrs. Carson was left to raise Benjamin and his older brother Curtis on her own. She worked at two, sometimes three, jobs at a time to provide for her boys. Benjamin and his brother fell farther and farther behind in school. In fifth grade, Carson was at the bottom of his class. His classmates called him “dummy” and he developed a violent, uncontrollable temper.
The hunger for knowledge had taken hold of him, and he began to read voraciously on all subjects. He determined to become a physician, and he learned to control the violent temper that still threatened his future. After graduating with honors from his high school, he attended Yale University, where he earned a degree in psychology.

From Yale, he went to the Medical School of the University of Michigan, where his interest shifted from psychiatry to neurosurgery. His excellent hand-eye coordination and three-dimensional reasoning skills made him a superior surgeon. After medical school he became a neurosurgery resident at the world-famous Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore. At age 32, he became the hospital’s Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery, a position he would hold for the next 29 years.

Later of course, becoming political leader, and how helping contain the Corona Virus on a national stage.

On paper, you would say that he should have been aborted, given the circumstances of his birth, and yet he has given a lot to this country, and this country is far greater for having him in it.

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Seethe you fucking roastie

Yet you impose that qualification upon the newly born. How curious.

Every creature on Yas Forums is proof that abortion is not only okay, but should be mandatory in the average int. of the parents being under 80.

And why aren't you successful? Why aren't all the children of previous slaves millionaires? It's much more complicated than your shitty Yas Forums memes about "bad men made bad time! bad time make good men!" Get some fucking historical perspective you absolute twat.

How redpilled and enlightened of you.

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No but actually disabled for life and no hopes of normal life fetuses should be aborted

But the same pro-life groups are against birth control so your argument is bullshit.
If women had access to the pill they wouldn't need abortions.

It's intentionally done to be dishonest and make it look like a baby is alive and struggling against the abortion. If the other side made this scene in the same way they'd show it as a nasty alien parasite.

It’s not bait he’s just not brain dead like you are. In most cases of abortion the aborted person doesn’t even exist yet, so they can’t be affected or harmed by anything.

You're misunderstanding.
1/6 Hospitals in the US are Catholic. A private organization, not some government spending 4 trillion of tax dollars, but a church, supplies 1/6th of the healthcare in the US.
They care a lot about those issues.

Nigger where do you live that women don't have access to birth control? Are you living in the fucking 1950s?

my body my choice

The same place that requires a signature of a parent to get it if under 18.

the people getting abortions are the people we don't want reproducing in the first place.

Would you kill Stevie Wonder in the womb? Before you even know his potential? Being born blind was an obvious hindrance yet he became one of the most famous human beings in the world.

You do not know a person by their birth, their privilege, or their disability. We are all unique.

>dude just encourage teenage hypersexuality it will definitely help the abortion problem!

What happens to the culture when we eventually find that there is a treatment for that "no hope for a normal life" treatment?
What will happen to the Nords, when the US finds a way to treat those babies in womb so they develop normally? How are you going to feel as a kid that you were born normally, but a decade ago you would have 99% likely been killed in the womb?

Actually pro-lifers are the people we don’t want reproducing. Literally all of them are backwards evil religious halfwits

>And why aren't you successful?
Im a chef at Wendy's, I would call that successful
> Why aren't all the children of previous slaves millionaires?
Because its harder to make good choices and bad, thats why shit like smoking is still around
atleast all those children had a chance to make the right choice, rather than having that chance taken from them so their mothers could continue making bad choices

>teenagers never had sex with each other in the history of mankind except in the last 30 years.

What an absolutely moronic reply. Does not even dignify a retort.

Fuck you're retarded

Okay.
From the moment of fertilization, there is a unique life form. It doesn't have the DNA of the mother or father, but is a genetically unique life. That's when I say life begins. That's what the science says is when the pregnancy starts.

When do you say you started existing?
What day would it be to okay to snuff you out beforehand?

Not as frequently as they do now, no. Because the media wasn't nearly as sexual and because if there was a pregnancy they would actually have to face the consequences of that.

>haha, your post SUCKS because I cant READ IT!
yeah, I think I win
go make me a sandwich and abort any future children you probably wont ever have the chance of having in the first place

Anyone else on the fence about abortion? On one hand I think it IS just women deserting responsibilities for their actions and as a hater of women I want them to live with their consequences. On the other I hate most people and think who gives a shit if a soon to be retard raised by a single mom gets nipped in the bud

Abortion also takes away proof of whoredom. Nothing is more telling than a single mom with a colored child, no I will not date you. Whore of Babylon

what a shit argument, you can not want what you see as legalized murder without having to support each non-murdered child

>Not as frequently as they do now, no
Yea ok. Shotgun weddings were a myth. Abandoned children in rivers never happened either.

If you leave this thread thinking you've won then there's no point in arguing with you. You'll never be convinced despite all the evidence presented. You can make up quotes and pretend like I said them and assume that what you've said is my position but at the end of it all you've just had an argument with yourself.

Literally read the rest of my fucking post you illiterate shitstain.

You can offer a better alternative to abortion rather than just screeing really loudly that it shouldn't happen, then in the same breath complaining about social service programs.

you really can’t, unless you’re retarded. There’s so much suffering in the world that infinitely worse than never being born in the first place. If you’re pro-life and you’re more concerned with forcing new people into existence to suffer and die than you are with ending suffering, you’re evil. And as it turns out, all pro lifers are either really stupid or really evil.

Notice how pro lifers are found on places like Yas Forums, where every deserves to have their faces bashed in.

Remember Yas Forums in 2008 where we dabbed on christfags and raided their tv programs, and now Yas Forums is full of them? Wtf happened?

>life is full of suffering so we should just kill babies!

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Murder happens
Is it something you want to prevent?

The alt-right happened.

>Notice how pro lifers are found on places like Yas Forums, where every deserves to have their faces bashed in.
Not really

Definitely after brain activity and not a moment before. The exact moment doesn’t really matter too much but anyone who thinks a new human life worth protecting begins at conception is unironically a retard. There’s nothing special about DNA combining, only consciousness matters.

>it's that teen sex I tells ya!
Fuck off you retarded soccer mom-tier faggot. I was here when you were a zoomie shitting your pants.

you can't say you don't think babies should die? It's a conscious choice the parent has to make