Why don't we have good sci-fi anymore, like we did in the late 60s to early 80s? Everything from the 90s onward is a hackneyed sequel, reboot, or ripoff. Have all the best stories already been told?
Why don't we have good sci-fi anymore, like we did in the late 60s to early 80s...
Christian Morales
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Ryan Scott
the people with stories to tell are not in a position to do so. the people who get to write stories are there due to nepotism and other bullshit.
and who knows, maybe there's great sci-fi and you won't give it a chance because it's on a streaming service you "don't like"
Nicholas Russell
Becouse we dont have writers who understand scifi anymore. Look at modern product. People making them dont understand how big space is anymore, laws of physics are out of the window and scifi is just magic that make their shitty plot happen.
There is no big unknown in these people world or worries how would aliens react to us or would they be anything like us. Expance is closest we have these days. But even that is turned go virtual to have strong female characters and other shit nobody cares about.
Colton Fisher
I have actually found the streaming originals to have the worst sci-fi. They do well with other genres, but not this one. The problem is always that between good acting, high budget, and interesting narrative, they only have one. I like a lot of modern sci-fi. But when I go back to the golden age films? They don't hold a candle.
Leo Gonzalez
OP, it's because you can't make large scale slow moving sci-fi anymore driven by ideas.
Jace Nguyen
Can we just come out and say that the worst thing about the new Alien movies is trying to explain the Space Jockey? I watched this shit as a kid and was just blown away by this bizarre unexplained creature. I had so many questions like why the crew seems unfazed by this, why there's only one of them, why it looks like they're part machine. And then you figure it out it's actually somehow just retconned into 7 foot tall androgynes that look absolutely nothing like this behemoth elephant monster that fills your head with all the possible whimsy of a larger world in this schlock
Connor Ortiz
Havent you seen those pictures of the mountains of scripts producers are given that they dont read through? Wanna know how many good scifi stories are in there? Probably thousands
Wanna know whose story gets picked up? The son of the director of some 80s comedy movie, and he's doing a reboot of some 80s scifi movie because its original director is friends with his dad, and it'll have a full roster of all the actors who attended his bar mitzvah.
Adam Mitchell
>Sci-fi in the 90s was bad
Absolutely fucking wrong, what are you talking about
Cameron Murphy
Space is tapped out. We used to think it was a world of endless possibility and strangeness and it turns out its just a lot of flyover country full of background radiation. There's a decent chance there's literally nothing of interest out there to ever stumble upon except mineral wealth.
Zachary Kelly
>Why don't we have good sci-fi
Ok boomer, time for another star trek rewatch for ya.
Tyler Jackson
Did you miss the new Star Wars?
Carter Butler
Yes movies nowadays tend to want to explain the origins of everything
Jayden Lewis
Just wait, user.
Ethan Turner
>Everything from the 90s onward is a hackneyed sequel, reboot, or ripoff.
The 90's through early 2000's was the golden age for sci-fi television though. Trek, SG-1, B5, Farscape, The X-Files, etc. And to answer your question it's because producers are no longer willing to take risks, everything must be from a known brand or it is worthless.
Blake Russell
>Why don't we have good sci-fi anymore, like we did in the late 60s to early 80s? Everything from the 90s onward is a hackneyed sequel, reboot, or ripoff. Have all the best stories already been told?
Your pic related is just a ripoff of Planet of the Vampires.
Chase Thompson
Avatar's deepening story is going to surprise you. Spoiler/Hint:Pandora's environment and the Na'vi aren't the simple result of evolution. They're the second emergent sapience on a post-singularity planet. The first is so far beyond humanity that it will seem like a god to even the humans.
Michael Young
Fuck yes.
Cooper Taylor
It's been Marvelized, shooty shooty bang bang Sci-Fi, It died years ago
Eli Barnes
Wow, just WOW
Liam Morris
>Why don't we have good sci-fi anymore
We have but not made from jews.
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Charles Kelly
There is good scifi nowadays, the issue is that none of it ends up being as iconic. Why? Because the creature designers all rip each other off and use the most generic FACELESS TENTACLED MONSTER designs all the time. Never anything memorable, and even when there is, it's usually stuck in an otherwise bad movie.
Obviously not everything scifi needs creatures, but we can agree that the franchises with creatures tend to be the most memorable.
Henry Young
Do you reckon spice enhances your cooms?
Bentley Cruz
district 9
Charles Moore
Are they taking down a rebel faction here?
Leo Johnson
You're forgetting that the "good sci-fi" you're remembering was spread out over a long time period. There was about one sci-fi movie a year or three that wasn't a B movie or direct to video. You don't feel it because you encountered them in the video store years later.
Being a sci-fi fan in the 80s was physically painful unless you were into horror movies.
Justin Thomas
yea but it's OC from the creator.
Mason Brooks
Blade Runner 2049 is better than the first one, but that's a rare exception
Juan Reyes
It's an addendum to Arthur C. Clark's famous quote:
>Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Any sufficiently advanced technology would be as seamless as nature.
Leo Bailey
moon was really good. of course that was 12 years ago
Gavin Russell
blew upon blew
Jacob Cook
a good sci fi story is like a jigzaw puzzle where at the end you dont get all the pieces.
The normies hate this, so they ruin the stories to appeal to them with exposition and over explanation
Jeremiah Thomas
>no good sci fi movies
David Taylor
>laws of physics are out of the window
If anything it's the opposite with the better sci-fi nowadays
They're trying so much to be realistic that it almost gets dull
Brody Edwards
anime shit
Ethan Turner
everything is either big budget or a cheap ass horror movie these days
Juan Nelson
this this this. not all mysteries are meant to be solved. space jocky is an excellent example. way creeper and more interesting to leave it unexplained
David Cruz
Lol it is the opposite.
Jose Jackson
reddit larpers actually believe this
Jaxon Perez
>being this autistic
Nolan Long
retard
it's based on a book that got adapted into a manga
Landon Baker
>Why don't we have good sci-fi anymore
I strongly disagree
Carter Perry
Everything to be said has been said, everything new has been done. Sci-fi is just flavor text now. It's just a setting for whatever male lead and female costar to experience action and romance.
Jaxson Gonzalez
You can go further with it, but you still don't have to explain it. Imagine watching a species that had essentially merged with its technology operate. Imagine watching, as a human with our clunky, distinct tech, one of the Jocky's species, walk over and assume his "shift" at the controls, "growing" into it in seconds as pieces of his organic side slough off and get "eaten" by the floor of his ship. It looks horrible to us, painful, but this is just his day. No pain involved in it for him because he and the tech dampen pain receptors at will. He neurally/organically integrates himself, does his "shift," then disengages and reconstitutes himself when he's done. The character observing this knows none of this, so to them and the audience, it looks like something straight out of Hellraiser.
David Collins
It stars Ryan Gosling. It is therefore shit.
Ryan Nguyen
t. tranny
Jaxson Moore
>DUNC-
No seriously, I am looking forward to this
Jordan Anderson
You kinda answered, it bombed.
2049 bombed.
And so on. I mean everything is adjusted for retards, it happens to TT games as well.
I love UtS btw, great taste.
Brayden Morris
It's a purification of some xeno-worshipping faggots. Those spheres are supposed to be some kind of alien daemon-machine from the old lore.
Camden Nelson
t. troon
Caleb Sanders
>UH SAW DA MOONBEAMS! I HAVE DA MEMORIES
It's crazy to think that without that one retarded 5 sentence monologue, there would be absolutely nothing for you mongoloid faggots to cling to and claim that there was some fantastically deep narrative to that boring, plodding piece of shit. And for the record, preferring the original Bladerunner (aka being a contrarian faggot just so you feel unique) is the actual reddit opinion.
Kayden Walker
Is this Reddit Screw trying reverse psychology? Both are great.
2049 is better written, 1982 better shot
Samuel Allen
Don't bother with You bait
Both Blade Runner films are extremely good and if you think either one of them is bad you're a certified mental midget. Fact.
Leo Garcia
>2049 is better written
Jose Cruz
The original just oozes with atmosphere in every single shot. It's an experience to watch it. But 2049 is the better movie.
Luke Bell
Anyone who thinks 1982 is better shot is the exact kind of brainlet who thinks movies in black and white are inherently better. No, grainy low quality footage does not equate mise-en-scène. Trying learning literally anything about film before ever talking on this subject again.
John Hall
In that one game yea
Ian Green
>Trying (sic) learning literally anything about film
>calls 2049 better shot than the original
You first lmao.
Jordan Scott
that music and atmosphere, tho
Zachary Taylor
How does it feel to know that Nolan and Villeneuve are your only hope when it comes to Hollywood sci-fi sci-fifags?
Connor Rogers
Deckards Log: "As I look back on my use of shot-reverse-shot over and over again with a completely flat backdrop, I realize what a colossally overrated douche I am"
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Caleb Jackson
who gives a fuck about hollywood
Colton Stewart
The space race really helped, they could make some money from what was currently going on or just happened, now everyone is about capeshit so that's what is made
Jordan Perry
Looking at this thread sci-fifags.
Oliver Sanchez
I saw the cast
It's going to suck
Michael White
Savescumming: The Movie
Evan King
The industrial era (first sci-fi age) and the postwar period (second sci-fi age) had exhilarating leaps and bounds of technology. In those times, scientific potential seemed limitless, especially to the layperson. The space craze is behind us now. No more monumental government investments, and fewer vast chasms in theory where unknown things roam.
Computers were interesting for a decade, contributing to an appropriately intense but short lived sci-fi wave. Now they too are played out, reduced to a smaller role in the current milquetoast sci-fi. The current state of the genre, featuring politics, (Children of Men, District 9) hardish sci-fi, (Sunshine, Moon) and AIs, (Her, Ex Machina) suggests a gradually gestating future sci-fi that's waiting to take off. These are tentative attempts to imagine the future. At this point, just one great work or event could set off a cascade of creativity.
Jeremiah Ward
Good stuff appears here and then. The 60s-80s had a ton of godawful sci-fi, worse than you could imagine, but it’s not as remembered as the greats. It’s like music. We remember the hits, forget the shit.