Thoughts?

Master & Commander

>not the right stuff
cringe list

none of those movies are about toxic masculinity

gran torino is infinitely better than fight club, wtf

as a deconstruction of the hyper-masculine character torino not only pays better respect to the good the macho man has done, but also gives a clear and hopeful message about where that goes next; that a life of violence and nothing but violence will lead you to loneliness and destruction and only by standing above it and freeing yourself of hate and fear can you do what needs to be done to end the cycle

Gladiator
Kingdom of Heaven
Troy
300
The 13Th Warrior
Goodfellas
Scarface
Heat
Master and Commander

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None of those are Conan.

Raging Bull

Gran Torino is the cringiest boomer shit of all time. Literally just "look em in the eye and give em a firm handshake" the film. It's stupid to expect a 77 year old man to understand modern society. He's just lashing out at the world trying to emulate something that doesn't exist.

Not to mention his retarded civic nationalism cope so he can pretend like the country he loved isn't dead.

>Vietnamese
it was about Koreans you brainlet

>It’s basic knowledge that Fight Club is about the decline of masculinity in late-stage capitalism

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You need to go back...

>as a deconstruction of the hyper-masculine character
Deconstruction of masculinity, deconstruction of gender roles, deconstruction of heteronormativity, deconstruction of religion, deconstruction of race, deconstruction of nationalism, deconstruction of patriarchy, deconstruction of hierarchy...

How about these faggot (((academics))) deconstruct humanitarianism so we stop overpopulating Africa with foreign aid

Fight Club is about gay masculinity.

imagine being this defensive over babbys first “we live in a society” movie.

Conan the Barbarian, are you fucking kidding me?
Got some good picks in here as well.
My man.

>old man beats the shit out of people on his personal vendetta and fucks his virgin daughter

How is oldboy NOT on the list!?

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Don't know shit about this "late-stage whatever" you're on, but you could say it's about the self-destructive extremes that a self-actualizing and cognitively developed mind of a modern day man would take the primitive masculine ideal.

for me

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Count of Monte Cristo

surprised none of you answered birth of a nation

Duelists.

Aguirre: Der Zorn Gottes.

any choice, other than, Taxi Driver is wrong

Conan is the obvious pick for the pure macho part.
I would pick something related to single minded autistic determination into pursuing a difficult goal they set for themselves. is a based choice, make that Antonioni's Pascal and Descartes biopics for the arthouse stamp.
Women will unironically understand these movies less than Master and Commander.

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> Barbarians at the Gate: The Fall of RJR Nabisco

No, the characters were Hmong who came from the Vietnam/Cambodia area. They were some of the allies of the U.S. during the Vietnam war, and as such had to leave at the war's conclusion. Learn some history before spouting off like a moron.

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didn't read this retards post but this picture is appropriate for this post:

Because he got BTFO and manipulated like a little bitch by the true Chad

The House That Jack Built

No, it's a sexually-charged fantasy written by a homosexual. Postmodern communists despise masculinity.

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>no terminator 2
Cameron filtered a lot of these plebs

We need an official pin of /tv

Film: Freaks (1932)
> Banned in over a hundred countries
> Credible AFI top 100 nominee, critics can't escape it
> Likely trolled fascism into World War II
> Maybe we're the normal ones, and all of you are the freaks.

TV Show: Deadwood
> An honest portrayal of adult life
> Shows one of the few redeeming characters opposed to you're a fake unless you are evil modern anti-hero dramas.

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Is this guy for real?
>Karate manlet
>Faggot Club
>Full Metal Jacket, or Waaah Waaah I don't wanna go to war, mommy!
>Past Prime Eastwood

What a faggot.
I guess that's as masculine as basedbois can be.

Lol you faggots can't even define masculine

I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves that book, based finance user (I'm an accountant actually, but still).

For me, it's Raging Bull.

All the other films being listed here have masculine characteristics but in Raging Bull masculinity is THE theme of the film. Whilst the term 'toxic masculinity' wasn't being thrown around in the 80's that film is the complete deconstruction of it, and how despite his world falling apart around him Jake still clings to it as it's all he's known.

For me its the Burt Reynolds (F) classic

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Southern Comfort
Romancing The Stone
The Color of Money
The Verdict
The Prisoner (1955)
Fitzcarraldo
The Duelists
In The Company Of Men
Tucker The Man and his dream

>late-stage capitalism

>true chad manipulates old man who beats the shit out of people on his personal vendetta and fucks his virgin daughter

How is oldboy NOT on the list!?

>masculine
active and passive bitch management techniques

>late stage capitalism

Why is it that everyone who's ever used this term is under 20 and has never lived anywhere but a capitalist society and has never actually had to pay for anything before?

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The reason why toxic masculinty ezists is because of mens innate fear of not acquiring a woman to mate with and also being percieved as gay.

But when they give up that toxic masculinity, women refuse to see him as a mate, assume he's gay and will mate with someone who does show toxic masculine traits.

What are ya gonna do about that?

They were vietnamese, I know their language, I had few vietnamese friends during high school.
Many vietnamese people fled to our country after the war.

The Bridge on the River Kwai or Master and Commander

Remember that movie Rubber?

They should do that, but have cuts to some Mr. Burns character.

> They took my heating oil for free, huh, in some billing error?
> Next month, go out there and fill their tanks with dynamite.
> Hey. They signed for it.

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There's no "cycle". The world is held at by by violence. This is an endless struggle. It will never end, until life does.

If you think this communist fucks will ever stop trying to defy and deface human nature, whether with pumping children full of hormones in vain to make a chromosome decided on birth irrelevant, promoting the sexualization of children, acting as if gender roles aren't realizations of biological traits and sexual dichotomies but made up tales and what we socially construct for ourselves? Huh?

Yes, men can socially construct the extra muscles we have into our bodies and socially construct the cocks onto our groins in addition to everything else. Shit like that is the basis of all this retarded theory and has come to a head before, in the Weimar Republic. Needs to be incinerated in a fire once and for all.

>has never lived anywhere but a capitalist society and has never actually had to pay for anything before?
Probably because what you just described is late stage capitalism? Having an entire class of NEETs or permenant university students is an aspect of what is described as "late stage capitalism"

Holy fuck, just looked it up and I had no idea they made a movie out of it! Going to go try and download it right now.

>Having an entire class of NEETs

This isn't a relevant thing in real life, left the computer screen in a minute bud?

> permenant university students

This is literally because dumb ass liberal kids are brainwashed into getting worthless degrees that softlock them into getting a job at the college they went to because it's their only option that isn't burger flipping. Anyone who gets a degree that isn't fundamentally worthless and full of Marxist professors with no real skills (the same permanent college students you refer to), generally moves out into the real world and establishes a career.

My main point is everyone espousing this has such a skewed perspective and they don't even seem to have the necessary brain cells/neuron connections to actually comprehend it.

The Outlaw Josie Wales
Play Dirty
Wages of Fear

>mfw no Freddie Got Fingered

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Only films about masculinity on that list are gran torino and fight club

t. junior english teacher

Wall Street should be there, no wolf or other garbage

Other than everyone getting triggered over "late stage", you have a point. Business takes away your identity? Well Project Mayhem takes away your name and makes you slave labor. The reaction to "fix" the broken system, Project Mayhem, is worse than the system.

fight club is about masculinity? I thought it was about finding your purpose in life

Strongly disagree, Karate Kid has a ton of thematic elements surrounding the relationship of Daniel and Miyagi and how they parallel and develop as men. And they are definitely presented as explicitly masculine characters in a classic coming of age, boy-to-man story. Full Metal Jacket entirely surrounds the military and an entire company of men so I don't know how that wouldn't be considered dealing with masculine subjects? How many women can relate to and truly understand about the subjects in FMJ compared to men?

Fight Club is actually a romcom

>This is literally because dumb ass liberal kids are brainwashed into getting worthless degrees that softlock them into getting a job at the college they went to because it's their only option that isn't burger flipping.
No it isn't. It's because the educational institutions are built upon endless growth, which they ran out of the ability to usefully sustain decades ago. They've been creating worthless degrees since, that serve the only purpose of gatekeeping high-paying but low-skilled jobs away from the poor.

This is not the fault of the students, though their whining isn't worth taking seriously either. But the fault is with the institutions that promulgate this insane state of affairs. When you *have* to get a degree in feminist basket weaving in order to work as a paper-shuffler, then that's not your fault. Of course, you could get a useful degree instead, which is why the students whining about this should be mocked, but this is literally a scam being played on the general public by these institutions.

They should all be destroyed for it, and the people responsible put in prison for life, their wealth stripped from them, and their family's wealth stripped as well. It's almost impossible to articulate how how much I hate this human scum.
incidentally, I went to trades and am working self-employed flipping and renovating apartments; I'm rolling in cash. so don't hit me with some "bitter philosophy major can't get a job because he got a useless degree" crap. These institutions are evil and so are the people who run them.

Gotta love the irony in posts like these.
No it wasn't you fucking retard. Walt fought in the Korean war sure, but the slanteyes in the film were zipper heads. Hmong culture is vietnamese, laos, chinese.

>This is literally because dumb ass liberal kids are brainwashed into getting worthless degrees that softlock them into getting a job at the college they went to because it's their only option that isn't burger flipping.
Right. Because you can't just find a job in manufacturing anymore as work has become increasingly automated and centered around the digital world. You also have corporate / state sponsored propoganda inside of a malfunctioning state bureaucracy being abused by oligarchs.

All of which, again, are symptoms of late stage capitalism. It's not just a term used by marxists, in fact the term was coined by a Werner Sombart, who was basically a natsoc