Why didn't Sauron put a couple guards at the entrance to Mt. Doom?

Why didn't Sauron put a couple guards at the entrance to Mt. Doom?

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Logistics, they’d die of exposure or starvation

why would he?

You know, so someone didn't destroy the ring and make his entire army die instantly.

He's afraid they would use it forge their own ring

because you were too busy sucking your moms dick

why would he think anyone was planning to do that?
more importantly why would he think anyone who was already within Mordor would do that?

In the books he sent the lava elementals to defend the black gate.

Why Mt. Doom have an entrance anyway? Its not like sauron used it to anything.
Tolkien is a hack

He used it to make the original rings.

This reply is dripping with cope and reddit

Why didn’t he just destroy the entrance? Blow it up or something

the idea that someone would even try to destroy the ring had not even entered the thoughts of Sauron. He even didn’t know what hobbits were. In the end he was rightly anyway because Frodo couldn’t destroy the ring.

Because it's a wasteland with nothing to eat or drink

>Its not like sauron used it to anything.
it's a forge, dingus

Because you leave the toilet seat up in a house you own and Sauron owns Mt Doom.

Nitpicking "plot holes" with "Why didn't x just y" is some of the most reddit shit you can do

Because he already had a couple of million guards further down and there's no food or water supply at the actual mouth of the volcano.

Also his eye can pretty much ground anything.

We let Tolkien get away with a lot of shit don't we? Whatever, he's still better than 99% of the hacks at the industry today.

This. It took Eru nudging Gollum off the edge to destroy the ring.

You guys are thinking this whole thing wrong, look this movie takes place in another land and another time, back then warfare tactics were different and they even had some sort of warrior code, sure Sauron is evil as shit but he is a warrior at heart so what he is doing basically is being a gentleman about it, he knows that he can control most creatures and he is going against a couple of hobbits so he's giving them a fair fight in his eyes or eye.

Not if the toilet can suck out my anus

Used it
He doesnt need it anymore.
Yeah. He’s forging anything new? I don’t think so

Exactly this.

To Sauron, that the Free People's of Middle Earth would be so righteous as to actually attempt to destroy the One Ring in the fires of Mount Doom was ridiculous.

From Sauron's perspective, it would either come to him and hasten his victory, or be used by his enemies but slowly bring them under his sway nevertheless. Is it the case that the ring in the hands of another could be a threat to Sauron? Perhaps, perhaps not, it is difficult to say, it seems so even to powerful and wise beings who behold it.

1) It's an active volcano, not a safe place to have guards stand. The road to it was constantly being repaired.

2) Sauron's forces were completely mobilized for war

3) Sauron would never have thought someone would ever be able to make it into the heart of Mordor unnoticed.

4) Sauron thought that the Captains of the West had the ring and were coming to fuck him up, most of his attention was on Gondor.

There is no plot hole. The ring corrupts. The possessor wouldnt want to destroy it. The only reason it even got destroyed is because frodo and golum were fighting and not paying attention. It was literally a happy accident.

Gandalf says that Sauron expects the men of the Gondor to use it against him. So I definitely think someone like Denethor or Aragorn could have used it to defeat Sauron, it's just that they would slowly become a new Dark Lord.

We see lava spitting out of the very top in multiple wide shots so how are they above the lava when they go into the mountain halfway up

Why didn't Sauron just block the entrance to Mt. Doom?

Because he literally could not fathom anyone would willingly destroy the one ring, and he was correct.

Because the story sucks massive amounts of jizz

WE'VE HAD THE SAME FAGGOTY THREAD FOR THREE STINKIN' DAYS!

Everything about the One Ring was designed to prevent it from being destroyed, it can only be destroyed in one place, no one's willing to destroy it, and even if the two above conditions were met, they'd have to make it all the way through those armies.

And Mount Doom is a great place to smith, which is one of Sauron's favorite things to do, collapsing all the entrances would definitely be extreme in his mind. Leaving it unguarded is definitely a believable oversight.

Don't even need guards, just massive magic-locked door

He should have built a few more of these:
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If i were Sauron I would have simply made the ring magma resistant.

building a guard hut there adds to annual personnel costs. you don't do the budget clearly

The ring is indeed heat resistant. It's shown at least twice in the movies.

but what was sauron's tax policy?

Denethor or Aragorn? Probably not even with the One Ring, but it's possible that Aragorn could use the Ring to rally an army of Orcs to his side and become powerful enough to challenge Sauron like in the Shadow of Mordor games.

The more likely candidates to defeat Sauron with the Ring are the heavy hitters of the time, like Gandalf, Saruman, Galadriel, or Elrond.

there's a part in the book where the eye on barad dur swings around in a fury when sauron suddenly realizes what's happening behind him at mt.doom

not good enough though kek

Especially 4. Aragorn baited him with the sword and the palantir.
Maybe he HAD a garrison there but it was probably recalled and sent at the Morannon.

using the ring to defeat sauron means that sauron wins. the one ring contains his essence

The fellowship met at Rivendale and it took about 3 minutes for them all to conclude that the ring should be destroyed at Mt. Doom. Sauron couldn't guess a plan that was immediately obvious to everyone in the fellowship?

When they met at Rivendale, it took the Fellowship like 2 minutes to figure out they should destroy the ring at Mt. Doom. It was a pretty obvious plan.

Then build a shack with some food and rotate guards every now and then

Sauron KNEW Frodo was there. Wouldn't he maybe ask himself why?

I would have walled it up or made a maze

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Denethor is of Numenorian blood, and Aragorn is the direct descendant of the dude who fucked up Sauron with no ring at all. I think Aragorn could have done it. It was what Sauron feared.

they had an entire evil citadel already whose garrison murdered each other in a riot over frodo's mithril shirt

So put a ring wraith there.

i know people like the end of LOTR for subversion where the hobbits save the day and not the atypical swordsman but i would have loved to see Aragorn fight Sauron even once, the palantir was too much of a cocktease.

No way dude he was just gonna let thwm walk into the mountain which is constantly being repaired so sauron can one day walk in there and make some more jewellery because apparently the super duper one ring wasnt enough. So he would let them stroll in and contemplate and fumble around on wther they should drop the ring in. Nah he would rather wait round and see if they accidentally drop it in because sauron is just such a silly fella haha

Yeah, but everyone outside of the council who hears the plan rightly believes they are handing the ring over to Sauron. Even Gandalf admits that they may have made a huge mistake. So I think it's safe to say that Sauron would not expect it.

>Sauron KNEW Frodo was there
no

actually he thought Pippin had the ring

It wasn't immediately obvious to everyone in the Fellowship, Elrond and Gandalf were in agreement on this, and Aragorn was inclined to agree once he heard their plan, but that's it.

But Elrond himself had tried this before and failed, if Sauron had the foresight to know that he would attempt it again, he would still have little cause to worry. And even this scenario, Sauron can be forgiven for deeming unlikely.

sauran is invincible as long as the ring is invincible. the ring is invincible and can only be destroyed in the fires of mt doom. ok. cool.

get some fucking ice cubs, cast some fucking blizzard or some shit, cool that fucking volcano down. its a no brainer. and once its frozen to solid ice, then you're literally invincible.

Its a risky plan, but it's still an obvious plan. Obvious enough that you might want to build a door and maybe put a sentry on it.

>Elrond tried this before
Yeah, so it should have been obvious to have a contingency in place for this.

I agree Aragorn could have done it, and this was Sauron's greatest fear.

Why didn't Azog wait till after the elves and dwarves fought to attack?

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Sauron doesn't believe anyone would destroy the ring, the very idea of someone refusing power is alien to him.

He would have been right too if not for Hobbitses and their racial features: advantage on corruption saving throws and bravery bonuses.

It took longer in the books but destroying the ring willingly was literally impossible and Sauron was right to believe that no one would do it. Gollum fighting for the ring in Mt doom and falling in by chance isn’t something that Sauron or anyone could predict

Sauron knew they captured a halfling in Shelob's lair. I guess you have a point, he should have realized he probably wasn't alone and maybe what he was up to. But his mind was focused on Gondor. And that is the whole reason the Captains of the West approached Mordor, to trick Sauron and give the hobbits a chance. Marching up to Mordor with the few men they had was suicide, so Sauron obviously thought they had the ring and were coming to kill him. All thoughts of a hobbit probably flew from his mind.

But even this is an over-complicated way of explaining it. It WAS the only place hot enough to destroy the ring, sure, but first and foremost it was MOUNT DOOM, the forge of the rings, it’s ability to destroy the rings was not common knowledge and definitely not the purpose that sprung to mind for anyone not just Sauron.

Maybe Morgoth could do something like that, but not Sauron.

Elrond tried and failed, they made their way as far as Mount Doom after Sauron had been defeated and did not have the will to destroy the One Ring.

If Elrond were to try again himself, which to Sauron would have been the only sensible course of action, he would not have gone unnoticed and would not have again reached the fires of Mount Doom.

And even if he did, Sauron had very reasonable assurance that he would not have the will to do it.

If anything, the plot hole is that they attempted it at all.

Let's be honest: Tolkein wrote himself into a corner. The only reason the ring was destroyed was because someone wasn't looking where they were walking and fell into a volcano. Literally Deus Ex Machina.

he could easily kill them off and send new ones to eat the old ones