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I've been watching that too. Good channel. Warships is pretty fun though but yeah it gets annoying. Also we havent seen Yamato in a movie have we? The problem is a lot of the cool battleships weren't able to be used because of planes and carriers, sometimes subs. Maybe do a what if movie? Also yeah ww1 ships could be cool. British ammo explosions all around.

1917 turned out pretty good what if sam mendes tried it?

based. also
>that one guy that seemed to be making an attempt at surrendering after the Bismark had lost its ability to hoist flags and shit
>and then lastly rodney coming super close and basically blasting it at point blank range

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I know the memes are all over but that is unironically a great song and video.

>That time an American destroyer and a U-boat got stuck to each other and their crews exchanged small-arms fire for 30 minutes before both sank

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Borie_(DD-215)#Final_battle_with_U-405

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Enemy below, is a good cat and mouse destroyer vs u boat movie (much better than U 571 or hunt fornred october)

Sand pebbles has a good naval assault on a static fort scene

Naval historian here

Hood vs bismarck is too one sided. Its not climactic enough. You need to pick a battle like the action of samar or 2nd night action of guadalcanal where there was a clear tide that needed to be turned.

Most naval battles are quick and indecisive to male for a good 3 act movie

1917 was a land movie though. Boat movies are notoriously expensive because filming on the water is very difficult. Peter Weir did it with Master and Commander, but the studios don't take risks anymore.

> As each man emerged from the hatch and ran toward the guns, he was illuminated by Borie's spotlight and met by a hail of gunfire. Borie's resourceful crew engaged the enemy with whatever was at hand: Tommy guns, rifles, pistols, shotguns intended for riot control, and even a Very pistol.
certified kino. thanks user, i actually didn't know about that one.

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Samar would make for prime boomer kino

>One of the pilots flying patrol after dawn alert that morning reported the approach of Japanese Center Force. Steaming straight for "Taffy 3" were four battleships (including the Yamato), eight cruisers (two light and six heavy), and 11 destroyers. Lieutenant Robert C. Hagen, Johnston's gunnery officer, later reported, "We felt like little David without a slingshot." In less than a minute, Johnston was zigzagging between the six escort carriers and the Japanese fleet and putting out a smoke screen over a 2,500-yard (2,300 m) front to conceal the carriers from the enemy gunners: "Even as we began laying smoke, the Japanese started lobbing shells at us and Johnston had to zigzag between the splashes.... We were the first destroyer to make smoke, the first to start firing, the first to launch a torpedo attack....

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The battle of Tsushima and the Russian voyage before it could very well be a tragic comedy with the comedy being most of the Baltic fleet's trip to the island and the tragedy when most of the russian characters die fighting to the end while achieving no hits at all on the Japanese fleet. Only for the fleet admiral to wake up in a hospital next to the Japanese counterpart telling him, "you did your best". The entire thing is like an epic.

>For the first 20 minutes, Johnston could not return fire as the enemy cruisers and battleships' heavy guns outranged Johnston's 5-inch (127 mm) guns.
>Not waiting for orders, Commander Evans broke formation and went on the offensive by ordering Johnston to speed directly toward the enemy—first a line of seven destroyers, next one light and three heavy cruisers, then the four battleships.
>To the east appeared three other cruisers and several destroyers. As soon as range closed to within ten miles, Johnston fired on the heavy cruiser Kumano—the nearest ship—and scored several damaging hits.
>During her five-minute sprint into torpedo range, Johnston fired over 200 rounds at the enemy, then under the direction of torpedo officer Lieutenant Jack K. Bechdel, made her torpedo attack.
>She got off all 10 torpedoes, and turned to retire behind a heavy smoke screen. When she came out of the smoke a minute later, the Kumano could be seen burning furiously from a torpedo hit.
>Her bow had been blown completely off, and she was forced to withdraw. Around this time, Johnston took three 14 in (356 mm) shell hits from Kongō, followed closely by three 6 in (152 mm) shells—either from a light cruiser or Yamato—which hit the bridge.
>The shells resulted in the loss of all power to the steering engine and all power to the three 5 in (127 mm) guns in the aft of the ship, and rendered the gyrocompass useless. A low-lying squall came up, and Johnston "ducked into it" for a few minutes of rapid repairs and salvage work.
>The bridge was abandoned and Commander Evans, who had lost two fingers on his left hand, went to the aft steering column to conn the ship.

>At 07:50, Admiral Sprague ordered destroyers to make a torpedo attack: "small boys attack". Johnston, unable to keep position with her damaged engine, and with her torpedoes already expended, nonetheless moved to provide fire support for the other destroyers. As she emerged from a smoke screen, she nearly collided with the destroyer Heermann. At 08:20, Johnston sighted a Kongō-class battleship—only 7,000 yards (6,400 m) away—emerging through the smoke. The destroyer opened fire, scoring multiple hits on the superstructure of the much larger ship. The return fire from the battleship missed clearly.[1]
>Johnston soon observed Gambier Bay under fire from an enemy cruiser, and engaged the cruiser in an effort to draw her fire away from the carrier. Johnston scored four hits on the heavy cruiser, then broke off as the Japanese destroyer squadron was seen closing rapidly on the American escort carriers. The Johnston engaged the lead ship until it quit, then the second until the remaining enemy units broke off to get out of effective gun range before launching torpedoes, all of which missed.[1]
>Then, Johnston's luck ran out; she came under heavy fire from multiple enemy ships, and right when it was most needed, the damaged remaining engine quit, leaving her dead in the water. Some time into the battle, a Japanese battleship, Kongō, fired two rounds from her main cannons. One round punched through the thin side armor ofJohnston and cut a hole through the engine room. Her speed was cut in half. The enemy ships closed in for an easy kill, pouring fire into the crippled destroyer.

Battle of Sluys needs more popular attention. Without it Britain would never have been able to adopt the wooden wall strategy that became so iconic.

>Johnston took a hit that knocked out one forward gun and damaged another, and her bridge was rendered untenable by fires and explosions resulting from a hit in her 40 mm (2 in) ready ammunition locker. Evans, who had shifted his command to Johnston's fantail, was yelling orders through an open hatch to men turning her rudder by hand. At one of her batteries, a crewman kept calling "More shells! More shells!" Still the destroyer battled to keep the Japanese destroyers and cruisers from reaching the five surviving American carriers. "We were now in a position where all the gallantry and guts in the world couldn't save us, but we figured that help for the carrier must be on the way, and every minute's delay might count.... By 9:30 we were going dead in the water; even the Japanese couldn't miss us. They made a sort of running semicircle around our ship, shooting at us like a bunch of Indians attacking a prairie schooner. Our lone engine and fire room was knocked out; we lost all power, and even the indomitable skipper knew we were finished. At 9:45 he gave the saddest order a captain can give: 'Abandon Ship.'... At 10:10 Johnston rolled over and began to sink. The Japanese destroyer Yukikaze came up to 1,000 yards (910 m) and pumped a final shot into her to make sure she went down. A survivor saw the Japanese captain salute her as she went down, considering her an honorable enemy. That was the end of Johnston. Crewmen from the destroyer escort Samuel B. Roberts spotted Evans at the fantail, asking "isn't that their captain", waving to them with what they did not realize was his only good hand.

Das Boot is unadulterated kino

>whole ship literally asplode
>there was 3 survivors
people watching would say its unrealistic

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What the fuck's a Very pistol?

That’s why you follow the story all the way through to Bismarck’s sinking by Ark Royal

There's already a Yamato movie
youtu.be/bowAxj4cMZc
16 min of pure Jap carnage
youtu.be/xKROConWAHE
Considering its other "big" battle was against the Taffy3 and it technically lost, I think it's sinking as a tragic end best suits it. Or just rebuild it 250 years later as a spaceship...

Why? HMS Hood for unlucky and then Bismark got yeeted by a swarm of obsolete aircraft that were so slow that it was actually a bonus because every Bismark AA weapon was calibrated and trained to much faster aircraft and all the crew panicked.

its a flaregun lol

so the sub lost its entire crew, but how many from the borie was killed? its says on the niggapedia article that the u405 had a bunch of mg42s on its deck. I imagine they would have been of little use considering how exposed they were.

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Even at the time the Yamato was basically a meme and never saw real combat until its suicide mission

Space Battleship Yamato is kino though

Why does it say 1992

HMS Hood was practically outdated by the time she rolled out

Learn me on this battle please.

youtu.be/Wmm9OlNoIsc
I used to watch this series all the time but this ep and the bismarc one where my favorites.

>jap light AA guns were the real meme all along though
>worse in every way from their western counterparts
>her final battle even with its 6 million AA guns only caused the loss of a few airplanes

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Do not bait me with this silly shit user. I shall provide only one warning.

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>Thread theme
youtube.com/watch?v=oVWEb-At8yc

The Cruel Sea.

Most of the British fleet was outdated. HMS Vanguard was the most advanced battleship ever created tho (and the last). People meme about Yamato being great; sure it had massive firepower, but they literally reloaded with a bucket on a rope and guys in a turret. HMS Vanguard and upgraded Iowa used better reloading systems and HMS Vanguard had advanced targetting systems. Iowa and Vanguard, competently commanded, would probably have beaten Yamato.

The British, despite being amazing innovators of naval ships, really fucked themselves up in the early 20th century. They created the Dreadnought class ship, which was supremely powerful, but it made 90% of their fleet obsolete; which main power was its numbers. You could argue they had no choice as USA and Germany were experimenting themselves, but bit of a problem.

Yamato, had it managed to beach itself on Okinawa, would have been insanely difficult to shift. No USA naval forces would be able to fire on it without being fired back, but by then the US Airforce was so good they'd have just bombed it (like they did). Then again I dunno how good the AA cover on Okinawa was, perhaps it would have protected it and cost a lot of lives to destroy (and even then is essentially a giant fucking bunker). The Yamato was a meme because everybody knew the range of its guns; its targetting and reloading was shit, but nobody was gonna risk attacking it with naval forces. It was a good area of denial weapon.

I long for the return of battleships; railguns are the only hope for such a return. Need huge generators to power larger railguns... but the issue is nobody likes the size and target, especially since hypersonic anti-ship missiles are a thing.

Japanes AA was laughable. US AA used to be aswell but the moment they slapped radar on almost anything on deck and replaced all small arms with Bofors it became quite formidable. Japanese kept using the same guns with the same iron sights that had to be reloaded every 20 rounds and where handcranked all the way to the end.

As outdated as it was, she sunk due to the captain being a moron and having all haches open in the ammo storage for "ease of movement"

What a great story

This is the thing people forget. The Japanese had really shitty weapons and only managed to 'expand' because they attacked basically colonial garrisons. The British, who surrendered in Singapore thinking a massive Japanese force was coming that they'd easily have beaten, was down to one act. A German U-Boat in the Indian Ocean committed a war crime; sinking the civilian ship that had the orders telling the Singaporean garrison (recently reinforced) that the Japanese had basically nothing to offer in terms of a fight. Sadly it never got there and the British, thinking they'd be treated as honourable as they treated others, lead 90,000 PoW's into captivity, with only 4,000 returning. Most embarrassing event in British military history.

According to the after action report, none. The whole thing was basically a shooting gallery. A sub's deck guns are only meant to be used on unsuspecting or unarmed ships. There's no cover for them and they're fucked if they receive enfilading fire, which would almost never happen unless another ship fucking parks on top of theirs.

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Yeah iirc they started shooting water with main guns and the giant splashes took down some planes better than their "too advanced" aa.

Even beached, the US would just have used fire bombs on it and let it burn since japanese fire control was notoriously bad. Look up Fort Drum, they did just that.

Thanks for the links user I dont think I've seen these somehow.

i was thinking of wave turbine generators to power them, having the ship stay stationary and charge up by the power of the current would be pretty awesome

Night action of guadalcanal would be an unholy shitfest but god I'd love to see it

They are from the same movue but I figured some would like just the action bits.

Yamato fucked up white plains and some destroyers. It did better in action than that meme ship Missouri.

>this chump never read "As the World Wonder'd"
The frightening thing is that how confident you are in your delusional text.

>I long for the return of battleships
Same here user.

Battle of Savo Island
Java Sea
Destruction of Force Z
Santa Cruz
All would be naval kino.

the brits had every opportunity to stop the japs at Malaya but they literally lost because the japs were good at cycling

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>700 war elephants
Lel

>he thinks jap land based mgs were a joke
Ian would like a word with you. really though you are mostly right, jap rifles came in all sorts of random calibers instead of just settling on one universally used caliber for their machine guns and rifles. Also the land based mgs were fed with feed strip which actually was probably rather shit.

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I still can't find reliable sources that give insight into Ney's haphazard assault on the iceberg fortress at the peak of this battle.

Bicycle infantry sounds and seems so silly but it was a good idea. Imagine if they had nice bike tech like today.

>really fucked themselves up in the early 20th century. They created the Dreadnought class ship, which was supremely powerful, but it made 90% of their fleet obsolete

It was actually a pretty good move: They pressed the reset button by launching HMS Dreadnought as the proof of concept and then devoted all their effort to making more. Germany on the other hand had just poured a huge amount of treasure and effort into trying to match the British pre-dread fleet only to have the goalposts moved out in front of them. It left them with their shipyards filled with half-finished Deutschland-class pre-dreads that they had to move out the way before they could build the Nassau's. It was a necessary choice because most navies were moving towards dreadnoughts, but Britain took the lead to ensure they could quickly gain the numbers advantage and keep it. If someone else built a Dreadnought first, the Royal Navy's numbers advantage in pre-dreads was pointless, and delaying the inevitable wouldn't have changed that.

Cope
The oxygen torpedo was op.
Saying those victories were easy also cheapens the allied sacrafices.
Sounds like sour grapes on your part. Ryujo alone cut a path of destruction throughout the Indian Ocean while Nagumo kicked the Brits back to east africa.

That was Gambier Bay. All Yamato did to White Plains was straddle it once and the damage was effectively fixed in 3 minutes.

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Shaka Zulu lol

Rekt

bikes should have a place nowadays,or maybe even motorcycles
modern infantrymen are fucking pack mules

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BATTLESHIP DRIFTING!

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