"You didnt get into college, son? What have you done? You've thrown your whole life away!!!"

that redhead was way overreacting about getting rejected from an ivy league school

Isn't this actually a smart thing to do since interest rates are practically nil

Thats her problem. She took a temp job rather than immediately building on her career. Thats why I ditched the idea of teaching in Japan my first year out because that would be valuable time wasted building a reputation in the field of your choice. They sucker in college kids only to kick them to the curb a couple years later. Its fucked up. Not to mention you only make like, 20k a year doing that kinda work. Its a rip off.

>study politics in school, like the ideals of the field
>do summer internships
>realize i hate how politics actually function
>graduate with degree anyway, 50k in debt
>get pt job in retail while figuring stuff out
>too capable/charismatic
>bleeding heart who just wants to make things better for my coworkers
>take on ft role, minor promotion/raise, way more responsibility
>still having to deal with retarded fucking store politics and retail managers are the fucking worst people
i just wanted to stock shelves bros, its fun desu :(

What the fuck did you major in? Im a senior but Ill drop that shit immediatly to do what you do.

You do know you can consolidate your loans and literally pay like, 5 bucks a month if you want? Youre looking it at face value, retard.

Yes.

Yeah but at least you get to fuck gook kids. They won't even know how small your dick is cause they are smaller

Just ate 20+ chicken nuggets and decided to live another day

Aw jeez dude, I don’t know...can I pay three dollas?

>get a shit degree
>waste 2 years of your life in Africa
>surprised you can’t find a decent job

The biggest lie is that college automatically gets you a good job, but if you believe this you’re also delusional . The reality is that you need a good major, with good grades, from a good university, with good internships and good networking. Then you’ll land a decent job after you graduate, and still have to grind your ass off for another 5 years until you’re established in your field.

Coomer. We're talking about big-boy adult stuff in this thread. Shoo.

>"Well, okay. As long as you PROMISE to pay it all back before you die!"
Thats literally how the exchange goes. How anyone complains about "college debt" is beyond me.

I guess ill fuck big boys too. I don't want to cum in a shoe

The crime is that this becomes blatenly obvious around your junior year, yet no one bothers to tell you until youre too far deep and in the thick of the shit. Its annoying. Im a senior and busting my ass to make sure Im not homeless after I graduate.

This only applies to people who got useless meme degrees. Almost everyone I know who got real degrees ended up with comfy office jobs.

Outside of the HR and marketing department at the firm at which I work, there's only 1 guy who's got meme degrees. But he's the exception to the rule, because he's got 2 master's degrees in two separate meme fields (political science and social anthropology). If he only had 1 he'd never get hired.

Nevermind, user. You made me kek. You can stay.

good luck telling any decent institution “lmao college is for fags, no I don’t have any working experience but at least I’m not stupid enough to go to college! Uh, so when can I start?”

>tfw as soon as I got out of a psych ward my boomer parents forced me to go into college for compy science
>no programming experience at all
>just go along with it for the money

oh boy mom and pop this really gives me something to live for thanks

>tfw the easy days of going to college to earn a degree and get a stable job are over and now the future of the job market is completely uncertain to say the least

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Is english a meme degree? I have a minor in film as well. My professors swear up and down that its not, but people tell me it is. I just wanna work as a script-reader or some office job in the television or film industry. Im not shooting high, here. I just want something to pay the bills. 60-70 a year at the least. Better than most of the other kids in my degree that swear theyre going to be an author and be the next James Patterson or some shit. Am I fucked?

I want to take an interview at a job I give 2 fucks less about and quote this just for the laughes.

>Institution
Working at an institution isn't the only option there is.

I've got a M.Sc in finance and I've got 4 years working at PwC. Yet a ton of people I grew up with who never went to college ended up starting their own businesses within the trades or shit like transportation and logistics. And they're happy, and they're making more money than I am. I don't like working with my hands, so that shit isn't for me, but I can understand why people choose to go that route.

Connections > work experience >>> degrees

in my experience

>Is english a meme degree?
Absolutely. No employer is going to look at your resume, see "degree in English" and think "damn, this degree is really going to help out operations and be an asset to this company".

Unless you apply for retarded shit like writing English subtitles for TV and movies, which Indians and stay-at-home moms already do for like $3 an hour.

They only make more money than you temporarily. Once you hit around 40 doing manual labor, your body begins to break down and you're forced into retirement. If you play the long game and put money back, you could retire well into your 60s and live on an island or some shit. People are very instinctual and dont think about the future. Youre actually in a good position and have time to move up in the company. Just keep your nose on your work and you just might get a promotion, man.

I’m not saying there aren’t other admirable options, but for all the shit that the 4 year college degree route gets, most everyone I know that didn’t go is a categorical loser

I have a BA in English Lit, didn't help me get my current job at all. But I didn't go for this degree with the intent to get a job. I come from a well off upper middle class family and there was no pressing need for me to find work, so I studied what interested me and what I could excel at, rather than going for anything marketable.

If you are relying on just your degree to find work then I have some bad news for you: the job market is heavily saturated with degree holders. Jobs that require a college education have their pick of educated applicants, so unless you have other advantages your degree isn't enough.

So I need to really get going on internships. Thank you.

I know youre trying to be helpful, but thats an ignorant post. Its all about selling your degree at the end of the day. If you connect your degree to an expertise in analysing, research, and the ability to express reason, theres plenty of companies that would find those qualities to be an asset. Im not applying to be a damn code-monkey accountant, user.

>They only make more money than you temporarily.
This only applies to the ones who didn't start their own business. Obviously I make more than a salaried employee who's fixing toilets at a high school. But those who started their businesses in their mid-20s are likely to continue to stay above me as their businesses grow.

Just to pull an example out of my ass. I'm 32 and my younger brother is 30. Last year I made roughly $148k. My brother, who started his own electricians company at 28 years old and now has 5 employees, took out a salary of roughly $190k. On top of this he injected $300k back into the company, which increased its value and allows for exponential growth. So my younger brother is likely to continue to make more money than me throughout our lives, unless I strike gold and make partner.

What should I do as a senior to make myself a valuable asset? I want to take an internship this summer, even if unpaid. Is that a step on the right direction?

Internships, and networking any way you can. If there's any kind of fair or expo where industry people are present, go to them and meet people. Forge personal connections with people who work where you want to work. Having a friend inside to vouch for you is worth the same as a degree.

>Forge personal connections with people
How?

is that Jonah the jew?

>jonahs five dollar footlong face

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Thank you so much. Ive been looking into an intern job for studio producers this summer. Im going to apply to as many studios as I can and hope one takes me. From there just be my charismatic self and do what Im told. Hopefully thatll help me get going.

>I know youre trying to be helpful, but thats an ignorant post.
Just giving you the truth, which you asked for. English is about as helpful as Women's studies, but if you connect both of those to an expertise in analysing, research or whatever the fuck else, certain employers could be willing to look past the meme degrees. But just because some employers are willing to look past it doesn't make it any less of a meme degree.

When it comes to most industries, there are going to be a lot of applicants who have relevant non-meme degrees, and they are more likely to than not going to get the job before you do.

Yes, internships are a good idea. Without connections you have to demonstrate competence however you can. Just having a degree isn't enough anymore. It's a baseline. Get whatever kind of experience you can.

Also, research the places you want to work pretty thoroughly. Ask questions about what they do and how they do it.

Maybe also set your sights broader than you initially considered. It depends on your field, but there's usually a surprisingly varied amount of work for any given discipline.

I guess I better apply to a lot of jobs then, huh? Who knows. Like another user said. Experiance speaks more anyway.

From what I understand the american education system is such that colleges try their hardest to give you a degree since you paid for it. And people get debt to pay for meme degrees even though the whole point of the debt system is to get a high paying job that can pay off said debt. In my country on the other hand higher education is free, but a lot of it is made to be a meat grinder. You aren't given a degree, you have to earn it. A second benefit of free education is that it's supervised by the government and the government doesn't want useless degrees, there was a scandal one time when a whole class of people graduated some course and were unable to find a job afterwards. This was considered big news.

Yeah, obviously you're not doomed. Like I said previously, I work with a guy who has meme degrees in both political science and social anthroplogy. He didn't get the job because of those degrees, but in spite of them, because he had other qualities which combination made him an asset to the company.

People with meme degrees aren't necessarily doomed. They just can't expect the meme degree to be the primary focus during an application process. It's basically just a certificate that says "I'm not retarded", but so many people have those now that it doesn't mean shit.

I was trying to get an internship for this summer. Had an interview but it was cancelled do to corona virus. Not just my interview but they canceled the listing. My friend got laid off from his internship.
I don't think i'll be able to get one for summer with all this shit. Fuck this quarantine shit, just let people die.

Thank you for your honesty, user. Actually gives me hope that I wont be a nobody.

The only problem is, I was gonna show you an example of the internship I was gonna apply to, but I guess a lot of internships are now...cancelled...? Jesus fuck. Im screwed.

Id say 10% work their way up (muh dream job tier), and another 10% get a degree and have connections through parents to get a great job. The remaining 80% aimlessly entered college because of social pressure and got a job in a field they don’t care or attributed to their major.

Talk to them. Find things in common. It's hard for a lot of jaded loners, but basically my whole success in life is built on having friends and being able to make friends.

And I don't just mean being chatty in interviews. You need to go to fairs, expos, and other events. Or you would ordinarily, but right now all those things are cancelled cause of corona-chan. Even a medium-sized business is going to attend whatever publicity events it can. These can be industry events, which can be hard to get into if you're a regular joe shmo, or like a fair or charity event.

If you're wondering how to approach people, curiosity is the best way to go in. Ask them who they are and what they do. People at these events are trained to respond to these questions, they expect to get asked about the company and their mission etc. You should probably have an idea of who they are and what they do before you ask though, and have some follow up questions ready that demonstrate your interest. Get them talking about their company, projects they've done, and how they feel about it, chime in if you can with how you've done similar things or want to do similar things.

The more delicate art is steering the conversation away from the rehearsed brand recital into personal dialogue. You can try doing this by making some analogies to hobbies or entertainment that interests you and see if they latch on, or they might even do it themselves, in which case you should follow up ("Oh you like ____? Me too").

And the goal here is to segue into asking if they have any positions available, or what you can do to join their company. Even if there's nothing available right now, they might have useful, actionable information about how you can apply for a job, and if you hit it off with them, they might give you their name. When you apply, refer to that person.

It makes me wonder how fucked Id be if I had just majored in film. Lol

>be me
>do journalism college degree
>have to go a 10 weeks unpaid placement at news network
>get degree
>''sorry we're looking at someone from uni''
>use college degree to do uni journalism
>2 years pass
>get bachelor
>fill out online application
>the moment i say i have bachelor get reject
>call them
>''most staff here don't have a degree''
>mfw the boomers are afraid of degrees
>decide it's not to late
>do social work
>2 years pass
>''sorry we prefer women for female client safety''
>sorry you're not getting hired memes erywher
>back to uni finally for teaching
>on final placement
>''unfortunately it's going to be hard for you to get hired since they can hire someone younger for cheaper''

AAAAAAAAAAAAaaAAAAA i'm up to my eyeballs in debt and am still in the same retail store since year 9. How is it legal for schools to promote the uni meme!?

>Talk to them.
and then get stared down

>ask me about my weiner!!!!!

Yet most people turn out absolutely fine. So what are these doomers getting at?

By people who are attending an event specifically so they get talked to and asked questions? I have personally helped organize my company's participation in a few local job fairs. We are literally given a script and have to recite it by heart before we're allowed to interact with the public. This script is how to respond to various questions and how to direct interested people to our application portal.

Try applying to multiple networks and shit, dude. Not everyone is a retard like whatever company that is.

Good thing you didn't, user. God fucking damn. I don't mean to be condescending but I feel so fucking bad for people who went down that route. It's like getting a fucking degree in buying lottery tickets.

Retail wouldn't be so bad if you took out the annoying worker drama, retarded and entitled customers, and insane corporate brainwashed store managers and culture

>Normalfags go into debt just so they can wageslave for Mr. Capitalberg later

LOL

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I had a different idea of personal. Sure I can do all that now I need hobbies and viable interests.