Vivarium

Anyone else seen this yet?
Spoilers ahead

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yeah it's pretty good but prepare for a lot of completely retarded theories and opinions in this thread

I thought it was a pretty cool one act short story that didn't need to be a feature length film.
The set up was cool, but then the characters don't do or learn anything, and the rest is just waiting for the film to end.

Super depressing

soi ahead

What were they trying to achieve?

Glorified twilight zone episode

>the characters don't do or learn anything
because they already did everything they could, up to burning down the house. so he just resorted to digging a hole, and she tried to find a way to get something useful out of the kid.

Killing house buyers

A24 style slow burn bone chilling cerebral auteur subversive horror

LITERALLY this, literally. Maybe even figurateviley

>she tried to find a way to get something useful out of the kid
This especially was annoying that it went nowhere. when she got that book I was hoping it would lead to some kind of development. That's a key moment in tons of horror films, the mc flicks through some book they'be found and learns how to do something useful. Instead it just lead to a spooky frog neck scene then more nothing.

>Instead it just lead to a spooky frog neck scene then more nothing.
it made her finally realize that it wasn't just a weird child, and scared her shitless. next scene is the thing having grown and things moving on. not sure what your problem is there

>Instead it just lead to a spooky frog neck scene
that was a pretty good scene btw.

Would have brought it up from a 6 to a 9 if the pacing was slowed down in the beginning and there was an extra 30 minutes of runtime.

Somebody answer me. Why did the bad people do the bad stuff?

i watched it after i saw the last thread and i thought it was okay. it was great up until the kid became a man, then it felt oddly slow and rushed at the same time. the 2 seconds of graphic sex was pointless and jarring. also the not so subtle messaging of how family life sucks was a bit much. the mysterious lore behind the cuckoo thing was fairly fascinating, but like i said before, towards the end it almost seemed like the filmmakers were running out of time and they had to just get it done; maybe they were forced to edit it down or something idk. either way, i wish the third act was more fleshed out and paced better.

Jesse Eisenberg is relentlessly handsome.

the humans were literally cucks. the scene at the beginning with the cuckoo birds should have made it clear.

you are a relentless faggot

>settling down bad
>buying house bad
>suburban life bad
>having children bad

Really made me think

>also the not so subtle messaging of how family life sucks was a bit much
I actually don't think they were going for that in this one. It's perfectly dull and tasteless because that's how the aliens see it, not us or the writers

>he thought it was an actual child
cucked

>the "child" is not supposed to be a grotesque caricature designed to add to the current anti-child propaganda directed at White people

>no going to school montage
what a fucking waste of time

the kid screaming making their life miserable. it strains their relationship. the dad literally digging a hole (working 9 to 5) till he dies. it all seemed pretty on the nose to me

waht?

why didn't they fuck the kid

maybe he didnt have butthole?

>it led to her being scared shitless
That's it. that's my problem: no development or expansion of an idea, just a spooky scene to make you scared. Compare it with the "riches to the conjuror" book scene in hereditary

Not even the writers can answer that one

Jesse Eisenberg leaving poots alone with the kid to go dig a hole really reminded me of the spongebob episode in which he and Patrick raise a clam, which honestly handled the same idea better.

why does the cuckoo kill the other birds? did you even watch the movie?

it definitely could have been like 10 minutes longer. some scenes just had no time to breath

>it's like a cuckoo
That's not interesting or satisfying. The point being to replicate the same system once again without even growing or expanding is a cop out plan. At least cuckoos multiply and occupy a niche in the ecosystem. The villains in vivarium seem to have no actual objective.

What do the martins even do besides grow up, kill their parents, and then become real estate agents for a year or whatever before they die. And who was the frog man? And what was the book? What was the television?

It could have been an hour shorter.

they do cuckoo things because they're cuckoos, that's it
they're not sapient, they only imitate

They were snared into an alien experiement. The book was in alien language. When she asked the boy to imitate the person he met, thats why he started growing neck sacks, cause he met an alien.

what else do animals do really? their goal is to reproduce.

>who was the frog man? And what was the book? What was the television?
i'm guessing the frogman is one of the adult things checking in on the kid and the book and tv were for some sort of learning purposes

>they do what they do because its what they do
Yeah, that's an incredibly dull villain and ignores some basic principles of interesting storytelling

that explains why the movie was dull

>who was the frog man? And what was the book? What was the television?
Mystery boxes. That's all.

>What do the humans even do besides grow up, leave their parents, and then become real estate agents for 50 years or whatever before they die.

dance like no one is watching

>I need as much exposition as possible or else I won't like it
They didn't spell anything out really, which was great. So many movies have great build-ups and disappointing pay-offs, it's great to not have this shit for once. I really liked Get Out and Us, at least the first half of both, but they turn to complete garbage once they start explaining things.

Them meeting the mother alien or something at the end and having everything explained would have sucked

Movie concept and everything was good, but one of the characters literally just dug a hole and died for 2/3rds of the movie, and it felt like the death scene was supposed to make us feel something for him and it dragged on forever. Maybe if he hadnt spent the whole movie digging a hole and there had been some more character development his death wouldve actually had the strength they wanted it to have.

I don't think anyone's able to feel anything for Eisenberg dying in a movie, I think it was more about feeling something for Poots. You know, being alone and everything.

I'm glad I got to watch it while working because whew, I can't imagine wasting my actual free time on this.
Thinking back to it, I even felt robbed while just semi-watching it while working.
An absolute slog to sit through, no wonder it was partly filmed in Belgium.
Glad it made shit all money.

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Who the fuck ate you quoting? I don't want an explanation, I want any kind of goal or objective to drive the sorry forward.

It wouldn't have hurt to give the audience some explanation as to where they really are or who were behind everything they've been going through.

but it was part of the whole theme that they themselves didn't have an objective or goal and were completely help- and cluelessly confronted with a terrifying scenario

Genuinely unsettling scene, not because of what you see but because of what it implies.

It was a great anti-immigration movie.

Yeah, it felt like it could of been a short story. I went in expecting a black comedy. Did not expect it to just be a miserable existence for the couple.

WOOF! WOOF-WOOF!

fplrrrrrghrrrr CROOOAAAK AK AK AK AK AK!!!!

Yeah I get it, it makes for a shit story. After you've been introduced to the cool, spooky premise you're just watching the characters sit around waiting to die.
Compare this to the cube. that's a perplexing and terrifying situation that's never explained, but the characters have a goal which they gradually work towards which makes it a compelling film.

>yeah it's pretty good

>and it felt like the death scene was supposed to make us feel something for him and it dragged on forever
i literally said out loud "i dont give a shit, hurry the fuck up" during that scene lol

>because they already did everything they could
They could have killed the child. Cuckoos only work because the parent doesn't know their baby was replaced.

It was so unearned. Talking about when they first met as he dies in her arms, like we knew a single thing about this couple.

>they already did everything they could
They are fictional. the writers can write something else for them to do, and they don't.

Eisenberg tried to kill it, Poots still thought of it as a child and stopped him. When it got older, they talk about it and she says she's sorry she didn't let him kill it

this is one of those movies where i would have rather read it instead of watching

Brianlet

what else could they have done then