What?

Private zoos are unilaterally shit. Even reputable, well-funded places like the National Zoo have trouble with moronic zookeepers, keeping the animals healthy enough to breed, maintaining conditions that approximate an animal’s natural habitat, etc. Oklahoma or Florida white trash won’t be able to get close to even that.
I’m inclined to be more sympathetic to Baskins because her rescue is basically just a box for old, fucked-up former pets to stay until they die, but none of the zoos in the show were any good. And she definitely murdered her husband

they are both nuts and manipulative desu
And Joe's workers were paid and fed even if it was shit.

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YOU CANT FUCK CONSENTING 18YO ADULT WOMEN THEY ARE CHILDREN!

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>better environment
oh for sure bro a 6x4 cage full of mud is the ideal environment for a fucking tiger

I've had fringe contact with the 'animal preserve" people - they're all batshit insane. They create very elaborate fantasies of how they're "helping the poor animals!", when the whole thing is just hoarding exotic animals. They dupe a LOT of people into their fantasy. They take advantage of moon-child types who think they can "commune" with a wild predator, because "they're so beautiful and I'm such a special snowflake of course they'll love and respect me!"
It's a really fucked up world. It's why I didn't go deeper into it. I saw enough suffering animals at the hands of a mentally ill woman hoarding them for one life time. My only shock is that this tiger story took this long to get noticed.

>sucking some redneck gun nut two decades older than you's dick every night for meth
Do methheads really?

Friendly reminder that Australia Zoo is the only good zoo. They had an 8 month PETA investigation for animal mistreatment and were found innocent.

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>>they’re so beautiful and I'm such a special snowflake of course they'll love and respect me!
Joe moments before the liger tried to chew his foot off

if you think you should house shit animals like these in cages kill yourself, do you think they are happy?
everyone in this doc is a criminal, and should be investigated. This woman in particular killed her husband with the cooperation with her brother, it's obvious.

that bitch carol baskins put tiger urine on his boots

Unrelated but thats how I feel about museums.
Specifically Computer museums and such.

>Donate your rare shit to me
>2 years later:
>5,000 different computers on their museum ebay account selling everything they got donated for thousands of dollars each item.

Everyone is scum

>Private zoos are unilaterally shit.
No, there's some good one. Tippi Hedron's is well respected, and several zoos and water parks maintain private reserves as sanctuaries for animals owned by these sickos. If a preserve is a member of the American Sanctuary Association, they're pretty much the good guys.

Who gives a shit? Stop watching FOTM netflix trash, 90s born queer.

The only zoos I use to respect were the henry doorly zoo in Omaha and San Diego, Henry Doorly zoo has gone down big time.

Most of the animals like this end up in places like Shambala, because they're dependant on humans for survival. They can't be released into the wild, and they're unfit to keep as pets. The whole thing needs to be made illegal - breeding, selling, keeping. You don't need a fucking tiger pet.

Kill yourself hillbilly

I agree, there are rare exceptions when species are endangered.

Die you gormless 90s born queer NPC

Cool cats & kittens

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Reading comprehension, tardo. Joe's zoo was a better environment for the animals than Carol's, but it was nowhere near the best environment. Both of them treated their animals like shit, but Joe AT LEAST had to put up enough of a facade that looked like his animals were treated well while Carol doesn't even do that. She just spins her bullshit about her zoo being a safe haven for big cats who came from other zoos and she doesn't even have to make her zoo LOOK good because the insane PETA feminists eat her words up like pumpkin spice flavored kale.

Why are Americans allowed to hard as many big cats as they want? Pretty soon those tigers are gonna be the only ones left.

Most of the big zoos are okay. They could be better, but it's a money issue. And, better standards need to exist - like the tiger attack in SF, the public should never be able to make physical contact with the animals, the fuckers that got killed by the tiger were by all accounts throwing batteries at it.

But until we can make their natural habitats safe from poaching, tigers are gonna survive because of zoos, even though it's insanity to put animals who have huntring ranges that are hundreds if not thousands of acres in small cages and enclosures. But that's an issue that...well, we'd need a black plague event in India to solve.

Here's hoping, Coronachan!

orgs that are dedicated to breeding and releasing endangered species into their native habitats typically work with each other and foreign governments. even if a species is severely endangered, breeding it in the middle of buttfuck nowhere to keep as a pet doesn’t help anyone

There's nothing wrong with breeding tigers; it just seems the wrong people are breeding them.

>investigated by a group that regularly kills perfectly healthy animals because they don't want them to be pets

Breeders have also introduced a fuckton of health issues into tigers, from inbreeding. I'm gonna stop here, this is a rabbit hole I don't want to go down, tonight. Go down it though - these people NEED to be hated as much as humanly possible. They're all sick in the head. All of them. Especially those faggots in las Vegas, Sigfried and Roy.

...

There is literally nothing wrong with running a tiger sex cult

>There's nothing wrong with breeding tigers
so breed them in their natural habitat and let them roam free fucktards, oh wait, you can't exploit the "exotic" money
I think they will find a way to breed on their own, it's a money grab, also kys

Joe lived in Oklahoma. She lives in Tampa.

we should make a carole joe hybrid just for tourists to see how stupidity breeds

I'm a heartbeat. Go to your local tweaker den in the closest metropolitan center and just jiggle around a baggie filled with literally nothing with your dick out. You'll get three blowjobs before they even realize you don't have shit. Except for the clap they just gave you.

>lol what the fuck are poachers?
God you're stupid. Tigers bred privately in America OUTNUMBER tigers in the wild. Tiger breeding WORKS; it's just the wrong people doing it and for the wrong reasons. The best way to save an endangered species is to start breeding them. Yes in a perfect world we wouldn't need to do that and there would be no endangered animals at all, but until China accepts the fact that chewing on a dried tiger penis won't give them sexual superpowers the best way to make sure these animals don't go extinct is to breed them.

now we're going to see some russian bear doc, I guarantee it, and a proooooooo just cause netflix jews see use talk about these animals, we need to stop
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>Tiger breeding WORKS
what? you are a meth head?

Are you a retard? Did you not bother reading the rest of my post? Like a retard?

tigers aren't endangered, also they are solitary animals which you wouldn't know, cause you keep them in cages.

it’s not as simple as finding the “right people.” breeding endangered species in such a way where you can eventually release them or make them useful to long-term conservation efforts requires resources, expertise, and ties abroad that no single individual is going to have access to. you could find the kindest-hearted dipshit in the state of oklahoma and he’d still fuck it up.
i mean these people are keeping ligers for fucks sake. breeding programs are a necessity but they have to be actual breeding programs

caging animals and then wondering why they can't go back in the wild is slavery on the highest lvl

Pleb Brainlet Normie Takes:
>Carole Baskin killed her husband and hid the body under the septic tank
>Doc Antle was just as bad as the rest and only avoided going down in the raid because he was tipped off

Superior Big-Brained Takes:
>Carole Baskin's husband was playing 4D chess and the suspicious evidence and all the shit pointing to murder by Carole was an intentional red herring so he could erase his identity and make a clean getaway to Costa Rica
>Doc Antle was based and /ourguy/. He didn't get charged with anything because he did nothing wrong and treated his animals objectively better than either Carole or Joe.

looks like the blue shirts are in full force today

>so breed them in their natural habitat and let them roam free fucktards,
lmao where is this habitat? whats going to keep chineese poachers from killing them? its like the retards who keep trying to reintroduce rhinos only for them to get shot a month after

We got us a real bull goose retard here, guys. A real smelly one, too.

>They had an 8 month PETA investigation for animal mistreatment and were found innocent.
as if PETA is a credible organiztion and not a bunch of schizos with an agenda

If i caged you for a year, and you only got food from me you'd submit to me too, retards
spay, neuter, let them die off in america there's no need for big cats in america

>Tiger breeding WORKS
Not unless you're doing it in an actual game preserve that lets the tigers you breed live the wild so they don't end up dependent on humans.

I never said Carole was good. Her husband probably fled to get away from her crazy ass.

Private breeders don't have a big enough healthy gene pool to produce healthy animals. Known issue. No solution.

I'm not from PETA, you don't treat wild animals like pets, i hope they eat you soon

>THEY
>DO
>IT
>FOR
>FREE?

You had me until this part OP. No one in their right mind would work for absolutely free, I refuse to believe it.

Any particular reason why this samefag is ignoring the fact that tigers face the real threat of going extinct IN THE WILD?

This. There are a lot of people in this thread that are falling for the documentary's particular bias. All the main players were all assholes, but at least Carole cared about the animals

>lmao where is this habitat? whats going to keep chineese poachers from killing them?
Have you never seen how fucking militant those African game wardens are? They constantly get into shoot-outs with poachers.

Go hang out with animal hoarders. They do a LOT of shit for free, to get close to exotic animals. That's why the real preserves don't let volunteers get near the animals, ever. If you're volunteering, you REALLY want to help.

>Not unless you're doing it in an actual game preserve that lets the tigers you breed live the wild so they don't end up dependent on humans.
We got another retard that didn't bother reading past those 3 words.

thats what they say in the show dude

even the bison aren't extinct in america, we gave them yellowstone, but they are native to america, want me to post articles now?

>They can't be released into the wild, and they're unfit to keep as pets. The whole thing needs to be made illegal - breeding, selling, keeping.
No what needs to be done is regulation so that people who keep said animals give them best care possible otherwise they are just going to go elsewhere and do the same thing. Even as it currently is having rednecks own tigers is ironically the only thing keeping them from going extinct because some weirdo putting his whole life into the hobby is going to produce way more results than a government funded org with limited budgets and a shit load of bureaucracy.

"Caring" about animals doesn't mean shit. Stop thinking it does. She's just as fucked in the head as the rest of them. I know these people, I had contact on a personal level with these circles, Carol is like all of them - "good" intentions - fucked up head.

>Carole Baskin's husband's get away plan was to sneak away to Coata Rica while leaving his entire self-made fortune to his soon to be ex-wife, whom he had already hated for spending all his money
Truly a big brained take

I bet he squirrled away a bunch more than she got and now he's down there living it up on that John McAfee steez.

>I'm not from PETA, you don't treat wild animals like pets, i hope they eat you soon
no what you shouldnt be doing is projecting human emotions and feelings onto any kind animals. people who claim that animals have some sense of freedom are the same type of retards that think pitbulls are loyal to them. Just different ends of the political spectrum.

There are no tigers in Africa, retard.

BECAUSE NO ONE IS POACHING BISON. Jesus Christ. How stupid are you assholes?

you can't even determine the amount of Siberian tigers without pretty much hunting them, but yet determine they are endangered, kek, same with polar baren

If you regulate the breeding and selling of tigers and exotics, that's essentially shutting the whole thing down, none of them could afford a single bit of that. So go for it.

yes, the native americans use to run them of cliffs, now we found a place they couldn't do it anymore.

You should realize that big fauna that's not equpped to cohabitate with humans is just going to die out eventually.

>people who claim that animals have some sense of freedom are the same type of retards that think pitbulls are loyal to them.
Except there's tons of demonstrable evidence of animals getting neurotic and completely breaking down when they're confined in an unnatural habitat.

Bears will survive longer than tigers

There have been extensive tagging and tracking programs in Siberia on the tiger populations. They may not have a concrete number, but they know the breeding population is around 500 adults, and dropping. There's this thing called 'science' they invented, where they can look at ALL factors, not just going 'One tiger, two tigers, three tigers..."
But you're probably just trolling, so whatever. But i know people this stupid DO post on Yas Forums.

>the fuckers that got killed by the tiger were by all accounts throwing batteries at it.
They was gubboiz. Jus got a lil confussed is all.

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I'm gay FYI

Joe was a fag and had married three separate men, two of who died.

I say was because he has HIV and just got Romance of the Three Coughdoms.

>some weirdo putting his whole life into the hobby is going to produce way more results than a government funded org with limited budgets and a shit load of bureaucracy
Holy fuck you people are stupid. How much contact is some guy in Oklahoma going to have with the Bangladeshi government? Does he know enough about the genetic diversity of the tiger population to maintain it rather than damage it? Does he know how to care for a tiger so it remains self-sufficient? How well can he replicate its habitat in wherever he lives? What’s his background in zoology? Ecology?
If you genuinely believe that rednecks are the only thing standing between endangered species and total extinction you’re a self-centered moron. I wish larger orgs had more funding, exposure, and a more streamlined process, but the people you’re talking about do more harm than good.

Well then why don't these zoos that have them release lots back in the wild? the key is no human reliance within the first 12 weeks?

So will wild hogs because they're adaptalbe as fuck and will eat literally anything.

It's why both are actively being culled in large parts of the US. They're overbreeding and wrecking the environment.

Everyone get the FUCK out of the way, the most based person on the show is here to mog the fuck out of everyone

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lol user, either you're a fucking idiot or wonderfully ignorant about bison. Bison are bred in America no differently from cows. Bison are still slaughtered and their meat is eaten. You are using bison as an example of how we should treat tigers while ignoring that the reason why bison are still around is BECAUSE OF BREEDING THEM.

>lol what the fuck is poaching?

I know joe, and they grow tusks. Jaime pull that up.
It's not a bad thing, when has anyone been fucked up by a wild pig lately, the arkansas razor backs football team has sucked since that horndog fell off a motorcycle with a college slut.

Based drug Chad knew he was being set up to look bad and get charged so he told the filmmakers to fuck off.

reading comprehension much? I said natives drove them to the point of extinction and then with buffalo rifles we almost wiped them the fuck out, and moved them to yellowstone.

you fuckers are retarded
the difference between carols sanctuary and joe's zoo is that carol doesn't breed tigers for captivity, she houses tigers that can't be rereleased into the wild. carol exists to take in tigers from abusers like joe who kill tigers when they age out of being useful for profit

They attack people all the time and will absolutely wreck even an armed adult. They're extremely tough to kill quickly. It's why most hog hunters do it from as long range and with as high a caliber as possible.

Because zoo animals are generally incapable of surviving in the wild, and breeds like the Siberian tiger are being hunted to death by bugmen for their bullshit "medicine", like the shit that caused the coof.
There have been programs run by zoos to introduce young tigers to the wild, but it's hard to keep the program successful when every new tiger is a target for a bugman to sell it's bones for tea to make some 70 year old bugman get a boner, or because poos...well, they're poos. Don't get your hopes up, there.

>and moved them to yellowstone.
BISON
BREEDING
WE BREED BISON HERE JUST LIKE COWS

Well hellooooooooo new friends. How is your first day/week on 4channel treating you? Christ this is cringe

and killed or missed her husband lololol