Bros I think I'm unironically a communist now. wtf???

SAMURAI PLOOS + SAMURAI MAXX = ???

the platform is actually communism you dip. they had a set amount of food, like you'd get in a planned economy. Just like communism, in theory there's enough for everyone but human nature is simply not altruistic enough for it to work.

No. Under communism it would be enforced so that everyone gets the same per level. They people are left to their own devices to decide how to share the spoils which signifies a free market. You dip.

>this is not a place for people with books
aka smart book guys like capitalism and get taken advantage of by the dumb, barbaric capitalist animals. What the movie fails to take into account is that in a capitalist society people at the bottom DO have upwards mobility. Statistics show that 57% of families in the bottom quintile experience upward socioeconomic mobility while only 7% move further downwards. This signifies that there are options to climb the ladder for those that choose to, but the film does not even hint at this being a remote possibility for those in the tower. In the film, if you are on a lower floor you are stuck there with zero possible way of moving up except by random chance. It's just dishonest and uses the severity of the imagery to try to make you blindly buy their argument that capitalism is inherently evil. Although, I generally do agree with the idea that a communistic ideal would be great if it weren't for human greed and selfishness which is impossible to remove from our nature.

Except for all the commisars who take a nice chunk off the top. Communist countries have zero corruption though.

What was his fucking problem?

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Because the movie is unique and theres stuff to discuss

Whats samurai max?

>aspirational black man gets poo poo blasted in the face for trying to climb above his station
damn...

Nothing. He was just trying to survive until they let him out

Designated shitting hole

DUDE IT TOOK ME 60 DAYS TO BECOME JESUS

Are there any good spanish movies? Everytime I see one it tries to be 'I'm 12 and this is deep'. Also Why are they always talking so fast and so much?

Garbage movie ngl

obviously

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You think all Almodovar films are 'I'm 12 and this is deep?'

It's weird. What do we even mean by "work" at this point? Those are the two most common economic forms after the industrial revolution. How can they possibly not be working?

>No. Under communism it would be enforced
And the enforcers usually feel like they deserve a little reward for enforcing. You really think people no longer desire to have more than others if you change the rules they have to play by?

Social mobility is a myth lmao dude.

surface level retard thinking is people getting pissed on at different levels

big brain thinking is that communism wont work cause human nature stops people from redistributing wealth equally no matter what
and besides, it's random, people at the top DONT always stay at the top and as someone at the bottom you get yours when you get on a higher level, its just how nature works

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But in Platform the enforcers arent part of the consumers at all.

Damn that kid is going to grow up to be a real narcissist, you can just tell

just like communism!

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>american education
those at the top will always shit on those that are below them, the system doesn't matter, obviously

why didn't he fuck the cute girl at the end?

>REC, TIMECRIMES (Los Cronocrímenes)
probably more, just the two I remember most

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Is this bait? Are you just playing retard now?
>>in le communism le enforcers take more than the others from the systen!
>in this movie the enforcers are separate from the system itself
>>lol just like le communism

why is it so hard for you to accept that equality is a pipedream

>RICH PEEPO BAD!!! DEY EAT TOO MUCH A DA FOOD!!! WE NO CAN EAT FOOD NOW!!!

Wow, what a staggeringly intelligent piece of "social-commentary". Time to vote a bunch of Socialists into power.

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Why are you trying to get (You)s? April Fools is over.

nothing best boy

But in communism it's never actually been enforced except for on the everyman. That's why they starve and freeze to death in bread lines while the higher ups have anything they want.

>Damn that kid is going to grow up to be a real narcissist, you can just tell
It's a black woman, no shit

Reminder that in that situation eating like a slob is your best chance at survival

>RICH PEEPO BAD
Were you eating crayons when they explicitly show you and tell you that the "rich" and the "poor" are the exact same people?

The Commissars and Politburo are on the top levels. The workers are on the bottom levels. It's the same system!

I just find it interesting that the movie's central theme seems to be that you can't trust people to do the right thing and have to force them to do it through extreme acts of violence.

the movie is ok and when looking at it from the viepwoint of "its about communism vs capitalism", its painfully annoying and way too on the nose
looking at it from a biblical viewpoint with the "hole/prison" being hell and a few other biblical metaphors/symbols in the movie as well

how do you criticize (((them))) in art without commies thinking its "muh evil capitalists"?

i pressed enter by accident
looking at it from the biblical viewpoint its more enjoyable and doesn't seems like it's trying to be some pseudo-intellectual "dude capitalism bad but also communism bad as well" whilst shoving it in your face

>Under communism it would be enforced so that everyone gets the same per level
lol, you really believe this?...

the child was a hallucination

>in this movie the enforcers are separate from the system itself
They aren't.

Communism as a concept = the experiment
Communism in practice = how people react/facilitate the experiment. which includes the enforcers stepping up to take control.

Communism as a concept and the platform experiment are both flawless systems. In practice, the concepts are flawed. As soon as the top people started taking too much food, the experiment became compromised and flawed. They deviated from the original guidelines of everyone taking equal amounts of food. The experiment as a concept was still perfect, at any time people could decide to take equal shares and the problems would be solved. But people's greed prevented that from happening. It's the same thing that happens when communism is put into practice. Enforcers/organizers deviate from communism as a concept because their greed takes over.

Did Yas Forums miss the part where when they tried to enforce their policy of "everyone takes what they need", they had to start killing half the people they met?

Obvio.......

>333 levels
they were out of food by 200 and there were a lot of empty floors in between

This is a incredible cynical movie, but you guys are all wrong about it.

Obviously the hole represents capitalism, people on top and bottom of the capitalism society.

An interesting point is how people get in random positions, and they act accordingly. If you're on top you're gonna look out for yourself, bottom just are desperate so you end up killing each other. The system is what pushes you and human nature does the rest

So for you idiots who say "is human nature that's why communism doesn't work" you're just missing the point. The system is the problem, human nature is just there. You have to fight the system and the structure, if not you're just doom.

THe protagonists choose to participate in the system being ignorant of what it is. Even the women who worked for the hole believed in the system after all the time.

Is similar to parasite, talk about the morality of the person actions is wrong, that's just a representation of what a system does to people

Just a reminder that any faggot that thinks "how the kid could survive in the 300th floor", "how the platform move?" is a plothole should tie a noose and neck all your relatives before your gene spreads. The movie is an allegory not realistic.

It's a revolution, of course, there will be blood. You can't just tell people to do, you need to shit on their plate.
When "something is not subtle = bad became" this meme? It's not like they are enforcing exposition and literally spoonfeed you.

Using shocking stuff to tell messages are a thing since the greeks with their tragedies.
>oh no Oedipus Rex is so shitty, does he really needed to blind himself in the end, If they had been a bit more subtle I could see this cult classic in 2000 years

First, it wasn't her child.
Second, just like the kitchen and the food was symbolism for wealth and classism, the child was symbolism for hope.

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there were 333 levels with 2 people per level
that's 666

Something that's been missed. During the interview everyone is asked what their favourite food is. The MC chooses snails. A dish of snails is present on the platform. Presumably this means that one plate of everyone's favourite dish is also present on the platform. Nobody just takes what's theirs, they help themselves to everyone else's food as well. There would be no need for everyone to take what they needed if they only took what they ordered, but people don't think about necessity, they think about luxury. They're stupid and make bad choices.

Secondly, how the fuck does the platform represent capitalism? Do commies really think wealth descends from above in finite amounts, landing in the laps of those luckiest to be at the top? If there was some kind of contest as to who sat at the top and whoever was there had to continually defend their position it would be a much better allegory. Any kind of critique could be from people rigging the system or the cutthroat methods they used to get there.

There's this weird thing with spanish movies, where the story and arc structure are always fucking shit and worthless, but the characters are always interesting.

We do seem to love these quirky, stand out personalities and we can back them up with generally good, down-to-earth looking actors, and dialog always ends up being funny and memorable.
But we can't write a fucking meaningful story for the life of us.

I thought it was pretty fun honestly.
Didn't understand the """message""" in the ending but eh I didn't consider the movie to be that deep anyways. It's a Netflix production. It was pretty entertaining but it did contradict itself aplenty.

the communism critique is valid, the capitalism one is more roundabout. Plenty of people are born into their station through no special skill or effort of their own and so think themselves more deserving than those beneath them. I think the movie is only political in the sense that it tackles questions of human nature that are core to our political issues. There can be no perfect political system as long as humans aren't perfect. "The Authority" isn't expanded upon at all and is just a plot device

If you arent rich you got no place defending them.
Kill the rich and kill the bootlickers that defend them

>I think the movie is only political in the sense that it tackles questions of human nature that are core to our political issues.
I will agree with this.

compared to a homeless bum, i'm rich and don't want to be dragged down to his level

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>literally portrays the left eating its own