This was not a bad Hulk film. I thought the CGI was fine...

This was not a bad Hulk film. I thought the CGI was fine. My main complaint was the storyline was just a little too deep for a Hulk movie.

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Peak Connelly imho

More like Eric Banana lol

I still like the "comic book" panel shots. Maybe the first and last time someone tried something new in capeshit

ang lee's hulk was unironically 2deep for its era, but it was pure kino

Still better than the MCU Onions Hulk

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well that's what you get when you hire the director and writers of the Joy Luck Club for your hulk movie. the only problem i see is the horrendous comic panel transitions which were apparently ang lee's idea. they don't fit the subject material and take you completely out of the movie

>Still better than the MCU Onions Hulk
The problem with the Incredible Hulk it felt like it had just mindless action.. But it's funny because that's what we exactly wanted. If we had a balance of good character and not overblown story arcs with good action it would have been great.

>ang lee's hulk was unironically 2deep for its era, but it was pure kino
I agree. Just for a first entry Hollywood movie it was just boring at the time. Now that I'm older I appreciate it more.

Yeah I really like how visually ambitious the movie is, the cloud fight is incredible and the military base montage was great too.

>well that's what you get when you hire the director and writers of the Joy Luck Club for your hulk movie. the only problem i see is the horrendous comic panel transitions which were apparently ang lee's idea. they don't fit the subject material and take you completely out of the movie

It wasn't that distracting just a little gimmicky

>the storyline was just a little too deep for a Hulk movie.
Unironically, the mistake that Ang Lee made was actually READING the comics.

The best Hulk comics are incredibly cerebral. Not because the writers are more sophisticated than Batman or Spider Man writers, but because you have to approach a Hulk comic differently. In a team up or cameo appearance, sure, Hulk can show up and smash, but typically once the Hulk is there in his own comics, the fight is over. So the best comics have to play it like that. They have to play with tension and focus on other areas. The Hulk comics have been peeling away at Banners psychology for decades, and a most of it has been pretty good.

What Ang Lee does in HULK is actually show a comic accurate(or at least pretty close) origin of the character, not the big green monster, but of the angry, childish Hulk personality. The character of the Hulk is intensely focused on his relationship with his father and THAT'S exactly what Lee focuses on.

Unfortunately, back in 2003 when HULK released, comic book movies were still "kid's movies" and Baby Boomers only knew the character from the cheesy 70's TV show. No joke, their biggest complaint was the that the Hulk was too big and too fucking green?! Seriously. They didn't want a CGI Hulk, they wanted a dude painted green. Google it.

I've always enjoyed it.

I liked that it wasn't your average super hero film. Eric doesn't have too much agency when shit hits the fan, and his father being a downright piece of shit and the villain was nice.

>Unfortunately, back in 2003 when HULK released, comic book movies were still "kid's movies" and Baby Boomers only knew the character from the cheesy 70's TV show. No joke, their biggest complaint was the that the Hulk was too big and too fucking green?! Seriously. They didn't want a CGI Hulk, they wanted a dude painted green. Google it.

Fucking this. These same boomers were the ones shitting all over the Prequels too. Makes you think.

>Now that I'm older I appreciate it more.
I watched it as a 15 year old in theaters and HATED it. Over a decade later, I downloaded it on a whim just to see if I was wrong. It was a totally different experience. I couldn't believe it. It just blew me away.

Did any of you guys loved Eric Bana's performance? I don't know any other movie capturing so much anger and stress as well as him. The entire transformation at the lab was really fucking awesome.

Literal pleb filter right there. Hulk is a Freudian character. Not some quiplord that Kevin Feige and his puppet directors turned him into.

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I'm not joking, Nolan's Batman Trilogy literally transformed public perception of comic book movies. Batman Begins was surprisingly good then The Dark Knight was legitimately a solid movie in its own right. If HULK had released in 2009 it would have been hailed as a masterpiece. That's a hill I'll die on.

Banner being genuinely timid in general was the best part. Maybe the only mistake was casting Bana, as he's a bit tall and muscular in the group shots. His acting itself was fine, just harder for the message to get across easily.

this fucking scene is like a renaissance painting its kino of the highest caliber. you dont see mcu cange anything but the same boring basic camera angles and cgi crap.

The shots of Hulk in the Arizona desert were beautiful ngl

The interesting tidbit about Ang Lee's Hulk is that the angrier he got the bigger he gets.

best marvel movie to date

I heard rumors of Disney buying the Hulk rights back

Movie was way too deep for 5 year old me. Shit some scenes scarred me for life. But that movie made me into a man at 5 years of age

I always assumed that was a bit of a take on inconsistency in art over the decades. But it did work for the finale battle, feeding the idea that the rage just compounded on itself, never really relenting.

>The interesting tidbit about Ang Lee's Hulk is that the angrier he got the bigger he gets.
Interesting fact here, the Baby Boomer audience was confused by this and hated it. I'm dead serious. They thought it was something Ang Lee just invented.

>Interesting fact here, the Baby Boomer audience was confused by this and hated it. I'm dead serious. They thought it was something Ang Lee just invented.

So Baby Boomer's ruined Hulk and Star Wars. What else did they fuck up with their whiney shit about CGI and wanting everything practical?

Hulk's size scaling with his rage has been a thing since the 70's.

Man I was a dumbas 12-year-old kid. I remember the initial hate and thinking walking out the theater, "How did people not like this?"

The first few MCU movies were more in the $150 million range. Not $180 - 200 million. Also, Hulk (2003) bombed so Universal was probably right to make those cuts.

Honestly to this day it's a movie I can always look back to. And I think that is cinema

Danny Elfman's music in this film was so good. The built up anger and tension as the music goes along with it. Truly amazing.

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>I still like the "comic book" panel shots. Maybe the first and last time someone tried something new in capeshit

I felt like it was a little too artsy for a Hulk film too especially a first entry hulk film

>Hulk (2003) bombed so Universal was probably right to make those cuts.
This is a tough one. The BIGGEST complaint that the movie got was that there just wasn't enough action. That's why the next Hulk movie was nothing but action. There's an argument that more people would have seen the movie if it had delivered on some bigger fights.

What people wanted was a big CGI smash up between Hulk and another beefy monster.

>it was a little too artsy for a Hulk film
Sadly, that was the general consensus about the film as a whole...for everyone but Hulk comic fans.

That Atlas shot is so good goddammit.

The Incredible Hulk was also considered a financial disappointment. Audiences just don't give a fuck about the character.

That just doesn't make sense though. Hulk is the perfect IP to transition from comics to movies because he just bashes and smashes shit.

Funny thing about that, if you're only told that the actors got replaced, it might as well be a sequel. Betty's house is the same. He's still in South America. He's still on the run.

I really hated the design of it. He looked like a green skeleton and looked like a skinny ape.

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My only complaint is that retarded "comic book panel" editing they did. Really robbed the movie of the "emotional depth" they were going for.

To be fair the Theatrical Cut of The Incredible Hulk is pretty bad. It's a real mess. The unofficial Extended Edition/Directors Cut is much MUCH better, if unfinished.
>he just bashes and smashes shit.
That's true of the character, but not the IP. Most Hulk comics focus on the part before the smashing. It's always about building tension and trying to defuse it before the genie gets out of the bottle.

Why is this Hulk the only one that looks out of control angry?

>That just doesn't make sense though
No, it does. Superman has the same problem. These characters are so powerful that there aren't any stakes, so why should we care? Hulk has it a little better because you can play with the "blind rage" aspect and build up the tension when he hurts the people he loves. They've tried to do this in some of the movies, but never really commit to it.

The Superman movies have had the same arc as Hulk post-Reeves. Returns was considered too "boring" and "heavy" so they went the complete opposite with MoS and jettisoned character development for action. It still didn't work.

Let’s be real here, it’s a terrible and offputting *action* movie and was criticized justly for it, but on rewatch the “fulfilling a father’s mercy” scene and ending argument between Bruce and David are incredible.

>supes

If they wanted to catch up to Marvel, they should've just made almost the same movie with Mongol and War World, and done zero intro. Just a world where he already was. But no one at WB wants to acknowledge anyone not named Lexx or Zod

this fight scene was so fucking kino and powerful

>it’s a terrible and offputting *action* movie and was criticized justly for it

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Best Hulk movie by far. Bit long though

I SAID LOCKDOWN!

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I think the movie would have been better if Universal just let them add in more action scenes. There were simply not enough of it..

Way better than any of the disney marvel shit.

>the peak of human condition
>wears glasses

Without a doubt it would have been better without the studio massive cutting the budget mid production with no warning.

I don't think it was too deep. I think it was artificially deep. It was okay, but I don't think it was as thoughtful as they thought ir was.

Plus Ang Lee didn't really get comics with the split screen. Comic panels are more sequential, like storyboards. You can't read two panels at he same time. You read one then the next.

Similar to Ang Lee's Hulk, Nolan's Batman is overly pretentious and not realistic like people claim. I like them all, but they aren't all that more mature or realistic than Marvel capeshit. It is a thin layer of pseudo-realism Nolan puts on. It is waste deep analysis of superheroes.