He's a protagonist in the graphic novel and movie, why was he the face of an evil alt-right movement in the hbo show?

Lol he was never the hero.

Easy answer, his "teachings" were misunderstood and misappropriated by a group of aggrieved folk with an axe to grind. Rorschach himself would likely hate the 7th calvary.

>Rorschach has always been a bad guy
>is literally a 100% right about everything
Really made me think.

He was the bad guy yet he saved the world?

Based but not the topic of discussion, the discussion was why they made him a right wing figure, and the reason is because he is one

I thought Ozymandius saved the world.

He was not the bad guy he was a massive dick and sis not sve the world he ruined the future of peace and union it would have had

completely misread the book. His strict unflinching morality gets him killed, pointlessly so, at the end. There was no honor in getting splattered and forgotten like that.

none of the protagonists in the movie or show were good people
that was the point of the graphic novel

>our principles meant nothing at all, they were always just fair weather notions you entertained with it was convenient for you, at best nice sounding flowery words that were ultimately full of hot air. But then, I don't expect liberals to get that, they're total hypocrites whenever it suits them. They're completely okay with looking the other way when someone on their side goes against their supposed principles.
Kind of like when Rorshach defended the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki because it ultimately saved lives? He was a hypocrite through and through, like every libertarian.

nothing ends, adrian

The honor was sticking to his guns. He knew the truth, that millions died due to the trickery of the world's smartest man. No matter the reason for this event occuring, he didn't want to live in a world where a man can get away with killing millions scot-free.

>none of the protagonists in the movie or show were good people
Name just one(1) thing the Comedian did wrong.

>Comparing being in active warfare with another nation for years after they bombed the shit out of one of your military bases to being on the brink of ware with another nation.

Crack open a book in these dire times.

>another retard who read watchmen and thought rorschach was ''badass'' and cries that they should keep politics out of watchmen

i wish alan moore could see these posts, just to see his reaction

There's this magic thing when you're writing for adults user, where characters can be right about somethings and wrong about others.

Comedian was a rapist my dude. He also shot a vietnamese woman who was pregnant with his child.

high noon. I still don't get the "no one will help the communist sympathizer" they were going for in that...

>hurr if the author says you should feel a certain way about a character than you must feel that way!

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Alan Moore is a retarded boomer who wrecked his brain doing drugs. He larp a as fucking Gandalf. Nothing he says should be taken seriously.

>Comedian was a rapist my dude.
She liked it.
>He also shot a vietnamese woman who was pregnant with his child.
Better for everyone.

>Nothing he says should be taken seriously

yeah dont take the fucking author seriously when talking about the story. god conservatives are so fucking retarded holy shit no wonder they like rorschach so much

name one bad thing he did
>Alan Moore himself says that was his intention
well he failed

>The ends justify the means but only when it's filthy foreigners getting nuked
Hypocrite.

>yeah dont take the fucking author seriously when talking about the story
There is literally a concept in literature studies based on this very concept.

lol go back to pol

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Unpoz me pls

>Rorschach is the hero of angry scared boys
>B...But Alan Moore celebrated author is just an evil hippy who shouldn't be listened to despite being the creator of said character.
The pathology, you could write a book.

>Alan Moore himself says that was his intention
There in lies the issue though because Moore couldn't fathom someone sticking to their convictions existing without having a mental disorder. He's literally in capable of imagining that idea.

Never ever said they should keep politics out of Watchmen just far left, tumblr, "everything is racist/sexist, sjw type politics.

he reads dm's intention like he was already thinking it then when he removes his mask he's crying. was it because justice couldn't be administered or because he knew he was wrong?

based third grade reading level user

>There is literally a concept in literature studies based on this very concept.

death of the author? bullshit for crybabies that cant stand a story where the characters don't do what happens on his own mind fanfics.

They were trying to make a Nazi parallel with 7th Kavalry misappropriating Roschach's words and views for hate he never intended. Rorschach likely would have hated 7K.

>didn't read the comic
>this gets pointed out
>g-go back to Yas Forums
Sad

Alan Moore is druggie retard who should have been shot decades ago Rorschach is his one good character.

Well this is the debate. The way the cold war was in Watchmen, blood was eventually going to be spilled but how much god only knows. Thing is, none had been spilled yet. Ozymandias basically did a preemptive strike to avoid further problems. What he did was like if America just decided to nuke north vietnam when it seemed like they were going to start invading the south. Honestly, there is no right answer imo. America was at war with Japan for years at that point and saw it as an opportunity to test the bombs and end the war. Ozymandias stopped a war, no question about it. The odds of peace being achieved before bloodshed was so god damn small. It's something to think about.

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Nigger I don’t give a shit. Alan more is a fucking hack. Rorschach was right. Alan Moore literally thinks he’s a wizard and his redundant politics belong in the 1970s. If he can’t write a story consistently that reflects actual sense he shouldn’t make a story at all. Close your mouth before you say anything else retarded.

schachpill me, daddy

liberals dont read

It was because he knew there was nothing he could do, Dr. Manhattan was gonna stop him he knew that so he would rather die than continue living and not do anything.

It was because he knew not telling the truth was for the best but he couldn't live with Ozy getting away with it. He couldn't stop himself from telling everyone what happened, so he tells Doc to kill him.

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I read the comic lol. Sally was a whore who forgave and fucked her rapist after her rape. They had a weird-ass relationship. I meant moreso your thing about comedian killing the mother of his unborn son because he couldn't be fucked to deal with it and she cut his face.

>his "teachings" were misunderstood and misappropriated by a group of aggrieved folk with an axe to grind.

This is similar to what the Nazi's did, appropriating symbols and prose they didn't make to sell their bullshit to an angry and vulnerable people. The show was hoping to parallel this.

Ultimately Moore is right though. Ideals, principles and ethics are all instruments to further the goals and function of the tribe. The jews understand this which is why they are successful.
You need to grow up.

because he exposes lies

Rorschach was right though, even if he was a crazy asshole. He's quite obviously correct to anyone who isn't a moral relativist cuck.

>This is similar to what the Nazi's did, appropriating symbols and prose they didn't make to sell their bullshit to an angry and vulnerable people. The show was hoping to parallel this.

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because Orange man.... he is bad

Okay nihilist. Some people aren’t fucking savages and have actual beliefs. Not everything is Machiavellian chess. No surprise Moore said that though, leftists like him are amoral savages. Liberty for me but not for thee.

his ancestors smiled at him, can you say the same?

i feel he's been through worse personal suffering and the tears don't relate to his powerless in that moment. he's always felt powerless, which he rejects no matter the odds. look at the prison scene. in reality he gives up and hates himself i think. or he realizes it wasn't worth it. because he doesn't even argue with dm, he just does what dm always does: act like the future's certain. he reasons over his own life as god would, the way he's been reasoning over others' lives and that's why he's fucked and he cries because he hates his own flawed thinking. its a moment of clarity.

The show was written by a Jew who is terrified that non Jews voted in natural self interest for trump after being mocked by the leftist owners media for years. People like him always hide behind minorities not because they care but they’re useful idiots who serve the diasporas purpose.

This thread is seriously low quality

Rorschach in the original comic is not someone you're supposed either completely like or completely disagree with, that is the whole point of his character. No you're not supposed to think he did everything perfectly and also no Rorschach was not a racist.

In the HBO sequel a militaristic group of white supremacists with political ties use Rorschach's writings as the basis for of their ideology. The show never tries to paint Rorschach himself in a negative light, they just depict how his writings could have easily been adopted by a supremacist group given his paranoid and conspiratorial outlook. Even if this wasn't really addressed directly in the show I'm pretty sure they stated this was the case in one of those supplementary materials they released between episodes.

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There is nothing hypocritical about supporting openly killing millions of your enemy to save the world, but opposing letting someone get away with secretly killing millions of your people to build a lie, you autistic commie faggot.

He was never racist

Cmon man... Moore is a fucking hippy idiot, but he is NO hack.

there's canonical basis for the racist label. its not stuck on perfectly, but veidt calls blake a nazi which rorschach then applies to himself. nazis are racist, etc.

Infect me baby

Wrong he was a hack moron who contributed nothing to his chosen genre. He will be in hell soon with all the rest of the hippies.

Not nihilist. Tribalist.
The only sincere position is the survival and power of between 11 and 99 individuals in the in-group that can actually be empathized with as kin. Everything else, from racism to individualism to liberalism to communism, are lies meant to spook you into being used.

Gradually I began to hate them.

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His works have potential but the internal logic is destroyed by Moore’s retarded beliefs. Any artistic merit he has is corrupted by his relativistic outlook. It’s such a waste. I hate Moore because he has potential for great things but he squanders it in being a retard. He’s a high school kid who thinks he’s saving the world.

It's blatantly obvious the squealing Yas Forumstards have no media comprehension and don't understand he's supposed to be a mixed complex character (like the entire work).

you don't like watchmen at all?

This. It's like you guys never learned how to read fiction

Moore is a commie, from his point of view Rorschach was a villain protagonist

Moore himself was always salty over the popularity of the character because he was supposed to be a fascist extremist.
Of course he fucked up by making him right about everything.

Only liked Rorschach the rest is forgettable trash.