>it normally takes 5 to 10 years to come up with a vaccine for a new disease
are we fucked? are the current generations absolutely fucked? the world is going to go insane if this goes on for another 5 months max
It normally takes 5 to 10 years to come up with a vaccine for a new disease
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Apparently some biotech company is already fast tracking human trials on a potential vaccine, but skipping animal trials altogether could pose a whole new and deadly threat with this virus (potential mutation and acceleration)
The plan is to get everyone sick slowly so it isnt that bad. Once we have a generation of people with immunity corona will just be the new flu.
man i just want this to be over soon, it's starting to give me severe paranoia
If we get to June/July and things aren't back to normal then that will probably be it for American capitalism. Landlords, stores, restaurants, and eventually banks will all start going under. Might have to accept 3 million dead boomers as a business expense.
Just be your self bro
Where can I sign up? I don't see anything wrong with anything you said lol
SARS antibodies only lasted 2 years before you lose the immunological response.
You won't get your commie utopia. Stop dreaming. Just defect to to China or North Korea if you love communism so much.
haha, remember SARS? that other corona virus?
haha, guess what? we still don't have a vaccine for that yet
This. It was a good run, Capitalist bros. This flu is just too much. We Communism now, baybee!
>vaccines
Yea that's a no from me Mr lizard man
stupid thot
how is it possible to be this afraid of needles, fucking retards
Wrong. They've found antibodies in people that recovered from SARS 15 years later. Corona's mutation rate is also much lower than that of influenza, so you wouldn't even need a vaccine every year.
>omg vaccines are bad
>posts a video from a heroin safe injection site
Measles reset your immune system
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
>Our results provide strong evidence that SARS-CoV antibodies are reduced >3 years after the symptom onset. Because antibodies play an important role in protective immunity against SARS-CoV (15), the findings from this study will have important implications with regard to assessing risk for reinfection among previously exposed populations (e.g., hospital staff) and evaluating the duration of antibody-mediated immunity that any candidate vaccine could provide.
Spread in the northern hemisphere is going to slow down by the summer due to weather changes and by then we'll hopefully have figured out which anti-virals are effective in treating it. Social distancing won't last beyond the end of April, they're gonna slowly start moving to a policy of aggressive testing+mandatory mask use in public like they're doing in the Orient. Things probably won't fully be back to normal for a while but we won't be forced to stay cramped inside for too much longer.
Not possible
Every single biotech, pharmaceutical, and science lab is redlining development on therapeutics, treatments, and vaccines for this thing.
5 years under normal circumstances. 1 year during this all-out race
>Implying communism is some fairy that magically solves the issue of millions of people being unable to work for months on end
>Things probably won't fully be back to normal for a while but we won't be forced to stay cramped inside for too much longer.
people in my country are not gonna start going out by end of april. i suspect nobody is gonna start going our normally until june and that is only if an anti viral is on the market. ameriturds can do whatever they want since they seem to have a problem with staying inside and not constantly feeding businesses money, but my country actually cares about boomers
5-10 years, oh yeah, like that SARS thing from 2 decades ago, we already have a vaccine for tha... oh wait
>1 year
I can't imagine this lunacy going on for another year. I will literally develop schizophrenia if I have to mentally drain myself every day for a year worrying my parents are going to be okay.
the funniest part to me is how normies are going insane
>reeeeeee I haven't gone out to take drugs and party for an entire 2 weekends already
>2007 study saying antibody levels drop after 2 years
You said antibodies last only 2 years. That's wrong. They begin to drop after 2 years but still remain much longer. If you get it again, even after 2 years, the symptoms will be much less aggressive.
>the symptoms will be much less aggressive
neat so it'll only permanently kill 10% of your lung capacity instead of 20%?
oh wow sorry i said 2 instead of 3 years. actually you don't know if the symptoms will be less aggressive, there are too many factors that can affect this. the fact is, there is strong evidence to say that after 3 years your bodies ability to fight off SARS again is reduced and there is the possibility of being reinfected. so being immune forever to SARS after one infection is not a sure thing.
By the end of April people everywhere are going to be sick of staying indoors. At least the young people will. Let the healthy zoomers isolate and the boomers and sick people can stay inside. Mass quarantine to this degree is literally unsustainable. Besides, the only reason we're stuck inside is because western governments and NGOs slacked off for too long and couldn't develop a better plan in time.
Fuck you and your loved boomers
I work in biotech (though not vaccines, that's a niche field commercially) and am wfh currently in San Diego. The issue with skipping animal trials is mostly about safety, what you said isn't really a concern. We do animal trials because it's the next step from in vitro testing, which is like petri dish testing on human cells. But we don't go straight to humans because there's unexpected side effects and toxicity all the time (all the clinical trial failures means that with the loser drugs, it takes $1-2 billion on average to take a new viable drug to market). So we test on animals first so we if they die or suffer severe complications before testing in humans.
This actually leads to plenty of probably viable drugs never being developed because it may not work right in the animal model chosen when it could in humans, but there's really no better alternative until we know a lot more about human biology and can model it accurately in a computer. In a time of crisis like this though, the math changes and clinical trials can be accelerated. In theory this could mean the vaccine has some unforeseen side effect (no, not autism) when taken to the whole human race beyond a few dozen or hundred test candidates, but this is still preferable to the ongoing situation with COVID-19.
We don't know currently how long the immune response will last. Comparing to other viruses (especially coronaviruses like SARS-CoV) is useful for estimates, but ultimately not predictive.
More boomers would die proportionally, but plenty of young and middle aged people would still die, especially those with preexisting medical conditions like hypertension, obesity, compromised immune systems, smoking habits, etc. Hospitals being overloaded also means you may die if you have a "normal" reason to go to the hospital.
No one is saying that, retard. You just need to be prepared for the collapse.
What's the big deal, is that going to inhibit your chance to be an Olympic swimmer?
I never said anything about communism in my post. If anything, I think we'll get anarchy in the form of roving mobs of homeless preventing the government from enforcing any laws. Won't want to be in the city and unarmed when that starts.
>oh wow sorry i said 2 instead of 3 years
*at least 15 years
I'm mostly worried about my ability to breathe since it's kind of required to live a normal life unassisted by a breathing apparatus, as well as the ability to live past 50
So after losing 20-30 of your lung capacity your body shuts down?
based
working from home is the biggest scam and I'm genuinely shocked this is a valid method of work. I maybe do an hour of actual work a day.
lets forget that the media and governments lie constantly. lets forget everything we learned from the auto industry bailouts to wallstreet bailouts to the 2016 election. let's ignore the fact that most of the deaths involve the elderly with a comorbidity. lets completely blank that world governments can and do lie, inflate, conflate and distort issues much bigger than this in conjunction with each other CONSTANTLY and that, if we thought about it for a minute, even the most non-conspiratorial among us could probably list 2 or 3 such instances. even if we trash all of these factors and
1. ignore the convenient market manipulation
2. ignore the vast amount of fresh fiat and profitable loans being flung all over the place (backed by and ultimately paid for by the taxpayer in the west through inflation)
3. ignore the recent merger of the fed and the treasury and the resulting expansion of the banks ability to shape monetary policy in the west
4. ignore that this playbook can be seen going back to bailing out the penn railroad in the 70s or whenever
5. ignore the huge opportunity for tasty, profitable international aid from, say, italy with this "pandemic"
6. ignore that governments always seek further control over their citizenry, and in the west they're getting a free compliance test without having to sick the police on anybody in any meaningful way
7. ignore that no official orders have been passed regarding isolation, it's completely voluntary from the citizens due to fear. check with your local county sheriff and public health org, they can't legally enforce this, it's "advising", "strongly urging" and "heeding".
we still are left with, what, a 40k death toll? even with the extremely likely lying, inflating of figures etc, you HAVE to confront that this is pointless media hysteria. who the fuck is falling for this shit? how do we share a planet?
For the average American, cardiovascular health is going to do them in, and compromised lungs exacerbate that issue.
>The average OD readings dropped from 0.94 at 6 months to 0.64 at 1 year, which represents a reduction of 33.33%. The OD further dropped to 0.52 (45.83% reduction) by 2 years and to 0.25 by 3 years.
not 15 years.
Tell your parents to:
>stay inside unless its essential they go out
>wash their hands after touching any surface they havent personally disinfected
>stay 6ft from people in public
>do not under any fucking circumstances touch their face
If they do all of that they will be fine
Pretty much yeah, especially with age
based schizo poster
>being at all educated about what's happening
>schizo
we're fucked, but im at peace with it
based media follower
just let natural selection do it's work bro
point five should read
>to*, say, italy
they won't be bailing anyone out rofl
Why live?
these people are the super spreaders by the way
if your parents die, these posters are likely responsible
how is it educated when he's claiming "pointless media hysteria"? the threat of contracting this thing is very real. if you wanna be a retard and put that theory to the test, by all means, just make sure you suck-start a shotgun after that.
also, after 2 years the antibodies needed to fight off SARS is reduced by 50%, so yeah, you do lose effectiveness to fight off reinfection after only 2 years.
Cause I'd rather have one bad year where i have to be extremely careful over choking to death on my own lung juice?
Jokes on them, my parents have been dead for years lol
they'll go back to normal and absorb the death toll as soon as western governments can no longer handle the debts . that won't be for a while though because those governments are the foundation of the global economy and the only place where trust lies because other countries are shit
then they'll spread it to you, you'll lose the ability to breathe, and become infertile too in the process
They can touch surfaces and their face if they're in their own home. If you visit your parents though I would have them disinfect whatever surfaces you touched after you leave though if you are truly concerned. You want to make the instructions easy enough for them to comply with, because otherwise they won't bother with any of it.
because the fact that you have a much stronger chance of dropping dead from a heart attack or car crash than dying from this thing unless you're 70 and have a comorbidity and because this is less deadly than the flu
yeah you have a chance of contracting it i suppose. but it's ultimately really small and the odds of dying from it are smaller. might as well lock everything down for mass fear of strokes. that was made clear in the post and you. don't have a real rebuttle because the numbers are so simple a child could come to the same conclusion
>western governments and NGOs slacked off for too long
No it's because chinks did not stop flights from Wuhan and spread their bioweapon across the world only liberal niggers think it was our fault.
Hey jim it's your dad here
just calling up from the grave to tell you you're gay
also take the trash out
thanks
-dad
>but it's ultimately really small
yes, if people actually follow CDC guidelines. pro-tip, they don't, because it keeps spreading. I'm genuinely glad you're in no position of power because I'm sure we'd be even more fucked lmao
The incel neet shall inherit the Eearth
imagine being mentally ill yourself but having no empathy for other mentally ill people
how do you want people to talk about your suicide user?
>less deadly than the flu
hahahahaha
Rockefeller Foundation envisioned Lockdown in 2010 publication
In 2010, globalist-oriented foundation Rockefeller Foundation simulated a global pandemic in a document titled “Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development.” The document reads:
The United States’s initial policy of “strongly discouraging” citizens from flying proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the spread of the virus not just within the US but across borders. However, a few countries did fare better — China in particular. The Chinese government’s quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post-pandemic recovery.
they won't know about it
>roastie has more courage than all the bugbmen that post about being sad here
what the fuck happened
LOCK STEP
Scenario
Narratives
A world of tighter top-down government control and more
authoritarian leadership, with limited innovation and growing
citizen pushback
In 2012, the pandemic that the world had been
anticipating for years finally hit. Unlike 2009’s
H1N1, this new influenza strain—originating
from wild geese—was extremely virulent and
deadly. Even the most pandemic-prepared
nations were quickly overwhelmed when the
virus streaked around the world, infecting nearly
20 percent of the global population and killing
8 million in just seven months, the majority of
them healthy young adults. The pandemic also
had a deadly effect on economies: international
mobility of both people and goods screeched to
a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and
breaking global supply chains. Even locally,
normally bustling shops and office buildings sat
empty for months, devoid of both employees
and customers.
Sure thing faggot, she was so """autistic""" that she went out every day and hung out with normies and killed herself when she had to stay in for a week
God I hope she see's these comments bros
>want to stock up on ammo for the upcoming apocalypse
>faggots raised prices on everything
fucking reeeeee. 300 9mm rounds and a few shells won't do shit
Official sources 18 months. That said I'm worried that bill gates is going to be a fuck and force you to get a microchip if you want a vaccine
The cure already exists. This thing is such a fucking scam. If you haven't already realized the media is overhyping this virus to take away our rights and tank global economy, you're a moron.
Do you know a single person with covid-19? No, but every celebrity conveniently has it.
empathy means being able to remember they have a whole life beyond however it's summarized in their death
you honestly have no clue about her. Sane people don't kill themselves in these circumstances. Something else was going on with her or had happened to her in the past.
I have it faggot.
>posts advice that will legitimately get people killed or maimed
>lol it's just irony bro! I don't actually mean it!
I have it, user. You don't really want me to die, do you friend?
You just have AIDS, nigger
Smallpox wrecked fags for like 1300 years
>posts advice that will legitimately get people killed or maimed
back 2 reddit, kike