Is it worth watching? Sell it to me
Is it worth watching? Sell it to me
it's not the most cerebral show you're going to watch but it is non stop entertaining with a legitimately interesting story.
What fucking gay service do I need to watch this, again?
The pirate bay
yes but keep going as it dips a bit in season 2 IIRC then becomes kino again then the last season was a bit mediocre because that just happened to be the most mediocre book in the series. Should really start picking up again next season and then on.
Good mix of interplanetary politics and a first contact scenario.
>Sell it to me
idk i watched like 2-3 episodes and it didn't grab me at all
Same here. Did intrest me enough to get the book though. Haven't read it yet, but damn that thing is a doorstop. And theres 7 or so of the fuckers.
Does Miller come back? I miss him
its relative boring and gets worse with every season, desu i wouldnt bother
It's basically space civil war. It starts out with the main characters characters getting involved in a ITS HAPPENING type scenario, then it escalates from there. Watch it if you are intrigued by government conspiracies, villains that make sense, terrorism, faction dynamics and mystery plots.
>2-3 episodes
Watch up to season 2 episode 5, "Home". The first 2-3 episodes is barely goes into the story. It's a show that doesn't reveal its true potential until a good portion into the story.
It's ok although they miscast Naomi and Holden.
The books are very readable - if you like the story you'll finish it in no time.
I’ve heard it described as Game of Thrones in space. Do you think that’s an apt comparison?
If you think that many black people will be in space some day then ya, watch it.
Science fiction show with really good production and cgi especially considering it came from syfy.
It's retarded but people literally can't describe a show with politics, multiple POV scattered in the world and important characters dying without calling it Game of Thrones in X.
The show was fine until the last season
not really, people just like to slap the "game of thrones" comparison on things
anyway it's pretty fun. unfortunately the main character is dull as shit and can't act, but the rest of the cast is entertaining and the show manages multiple plot threads pretty well
Is she asian or white?
I generally agree about the stupidity of the comparison, but this series was literally written by two guys who worked as RR Martin's assistant and collaborator.
It's based and full of characters that did nothing wrong.
Every videogame is Dark Souls, every show is Game Of Thrones
She's a snownigger and my wife.
>Gee is Ojibway. She was born in Calgary, Alberta, and raised in Bobcaygeon, Ontario.
Oh, so she is like a native canadian or something
To put it in normie terms, yes. Think season 1-3 Game of Thrones. There are various factions who have point of view characters, and they are all tangled up in a squabble for power and relevance. And just like GoT, there is also a mysterious element to this show that presents a threat to the whole power balance. However, unlike GoT, this mysterious element actually shows up by the third season and the characters are forced to deal with it. And it doesn't turn into Avengers style "team up" vs the Big Bad, either. The factions still have their grievances and conflicts while all this is happening. I hope that's not too spoilery.
Season 4? It was a set up season and it's the second act of the story and it was based on the book that was the most different from the others. All things considered, the show version was an improvement of that arc compared to the books, because the show introduced some book 5 elements to set up the next season. Season 5 will bring us back to the Earth/Mars/Belt conflict if that's what you're looking for.
I really struggled to get through the first season, but it was worth it as seasons 2 and 3 are really something special. In retrospect you need that slow burn first season for the world building.
I feel like this guy could've gotten exactly what he wanted if he just calmed the fuck down
>big popular show in the cultural zeitgeist for years is not a good thing to compare against
If they don't go full ribbit moment and just stick to the books: No, never.
He wanted to die.
syfy hasn't really failed in spaceship cgi, have they? only creatures and the like
Naomi i get, but Holden is exactly the unlikeable retard he is in the books. Even has that gormless look on his face i always pictured him with.
>I really struggled to get through the first season
Same. The first season is really only half of the first book. When I watched it for the first time, I didn't really see what so special until I got to season 2. The worldbuilding and set up was cool, but there was no climax. That's because the ending of season one had to be done in the beginning of season 2 because they couldn't fit in the entire first book in the 10 episodes. Funny how that was actually the structure for the first 2 or so seasons. The book 2 adaptation ends in the first half of season 3. And the second half of season 3 is one entire book by itself. In season 4 the structure changes, and they actually wrapped up book 4 within season 4 itself, and used the rest to tease book 5. And season 5 is said to adapt book 5 with some elements of book 6, and I'm predicting season 6 will end book 6 and go into book 7 which will be interesting because book 7 is where the time jump is, which I have no idea how they are going to pull off in the show.
Yeah, I remember BSG spaceships cg actually looked pretty gud if it weren't for the grainy film look, shaky cam and snyder zooms. But a lot of those shots were reused as establishing shots, so I guess they didn't have to work on those much except for the battles. The cylon robot cg was terrible though.
Fuck belters seriously.
They basically pushed this poor guy into an unwinnable situation against moral high-ground space Jesus and his autismo killing machine.
>Leviathan Wakes is 577 pages
>Doorstop
Lmao
I think the longest is maybe under 700 pages? That’s a weekend read pal
I'm a filthy ESL and they're easy as fuck to read, what are you on about.
glad I wasn't the only one that laughed at that.
It's piss easy to read too since every 9-11 pages it switches POV and after chapter 6 or 7 it's basically nothing but full throttle the entire way. I finished the first three books in a week and got through the other 5 in about two weeks. It's a fantastic series.
It doesn't pander to the viewer the way GoT did, that's for sure.
Based and Murtrypilled
How so?
It wasn't so much that is was clearly an in-between you're season, it's that it was terribly made. The UN election storyline was flimsy and underdone (the election seemed to consist of one round of hustings to a room of about 20 people in New York), all throat-cancer-fu had to do was swear a bit, amos was reduced to meme-lines to show us how weird he is (again), it pushed Naomi's terrible, sanctimonious "morality" as actually being right and justified (and she dragged Holden down with her), and the Mars scenes looked like the cheapest daytime syfy shows (ironically considering the move to Amazon). Oh, and they decided to just leave out all the important information from the miller storyline, so it legitimately made no sense whatsoever (unless you've read the books, or read up to fill in the blanks).
It was genuinely awful. Maybe the show has always been this badly written, but there was enough storyline to mask it's deficiencies in previous seasons and when things pick up next season it'll be better. I hope so.
Friendly reminder that Murtry did nothing wrong.
>Belters blew up the landing zone which caused 20 some odd people from his ship to die, and a ton of material lost
>he wanted justice, not killing everyone, just the ones that were responsible for the terrorist attack
>Jimmy Holden and his crew of retards step in and cause way more issues than there would have been if Murtry just shot the 3 terrorists and moved on
>Jimmy fucking Holden convinced the Belters to more or less not take Murtrys shit, even though Murtry was the only one that was capable of understanding the ramifications of the lawless society they were very quickly building
Seriously, the dude did everything right up till the very end.
>Belters blew up the landing zone which caused 20 some odd people from his ship to die, and a ton of material lost
The landing zone exploding only caused 20 deaths in the book
In the show they get attacked by spacelocusts before they land.
It's an issue with switching 'networks' and having a new boss and a new budget. Basically Amazon wasn't sure how much of a success The Expanse would be so the budget for season 4 was barebones. However, Amazon tripled the budget for Expanse season 5 compared to season 4, so it should be much better, at least visually, going forward.
>*ruins your kino*
I hate this bitches stupid voice, every scene she is in is a chore to get through.
>the Mars scenes looked like the cheapest daytime syfy shows (ironically considering the move to Amazon).
For their defense, they have a post-ROCK Earth to film in Season 5, so i guess they went for the budget version of Mars.
I haven't read the books, but of those you listed the only part of S4 that really stood out to me as shoddy was the UN stuff. surprisingly flat considering how much care they'd put into that part of the show in earlier seasons, and having a politician character suddenly start saying "fuck" every two minutes didn't fix it
this, but the exact opposite. she was the only redeeming quality in the S4 mars stuff. and I'd rather hear her accent than the weird and often fake american accents the other martians usually have
I find her extremely fuckable and love aussie accents. They could do a better job with her dialogue but eh.
GoT fell for the strong women meme somewhere around late season 4-early season 5. It went against everything GRRM was trying to tell in his books, and it pandered to youtubers who make reaction videos because of the Red Wedding. Ever since then, the show runners thought that if they give ebin spectacle to the audience every season, the audience would look over their bad writing, and it worked up to season 7, but when the same bad writing started to affect fan favourite characters, like the stronk women, then the normies started to turn against it. Also, the first 3-4 season of GoT is very different from the last few. First 3 were heavily based on the books and had dialogue pretty much lifted from the books and there were lots of quality scenes where characters just talked to one another. Those were all gone in the later seasons, where action and character meet-ups mattered more than whether the plot made sense or not. The Expanse has a better chance of not running into this problem because 1) the authors of the book are also writers on the show, (not just the only writers, there are others too, but they do write entire episodes from time to time) and 2) unlike GoT, the books are almost done save for one which is due this year. So, as long the showrunners with the help of the book authors, don't stray too much from the plot beats of the book and adapt things in a way that make sense, then they have a fairly good chance of not fucking it up towards the end. Of course, this is just speculation, shows can very easily go bad. GoT is the perfect example. Absolute kino from season 1-4, then absolute trash post-season 4. The difference was extremely jarring, it was like it wasn't even made by the same people, but they were. But as far as tv adaptations go, Expanse is doing well so far for the first 4 books of the series.
He must be over the top angry evil man, otherwise how we, the silly viewers, will see that he is the bad guy?
That's a shame, I really liked him
>tripled the budget
holy shit. Seeing as how many CGI space battles and Earth getting bombed next season it might actually be done well now
Khamal's "texan" accent never fails to make me want to punch a litter of kittens
Klaes, Drummer, Avaransala and Draper make up for it tho
Is she actually 'big' like they say in the series? Need a side by side IRL with naomi and russian cyborg woman
>Khamal's "texan" accent
jesus christ i thought he was doing it for an in-show joke but there was no punchline
Fair enough, I see your point. Everything outside of Ilus was show-only. The election stuff, I assume is just a set up to get Avasarala off Earth and onto Luna. They didn't want to have another season where she goes off screen again, so they came up with that subplot to make her involved in the main storyline. I agree that wasn't the strong part of season 4. The Ashford stuff however was excellent. Bringing Marco Inaros early into season 4 and having him interact with the other Belters was fantastic, easily the best part of the season, even better than the Ilus stuff. Though, given the ending of Season 4, I wonder how book 5 will be adapted, considering that now the secret is out and Earth has been targeted for a terrorist plot.
she's like 1.8m and Yas Forums as fuck
his accent is supposed to be hokey...
god i love that bloated tummy. females look so fucking good when they wear tight clothing with their shape of their tummy showing
>Sell it to me
Drummer.