I know about Lovecraftian movies but are there any Lovecraftian TV shows?
I know about Lovecraftian movies but are there any Lovecraftian TV shows?
I remember a very, very bad TV show involving Cthulu, yes
What even is the criteria to qualify for lovecraftian?
>protagonist is confronted by supernatural thing that makes him almost or completely lose his mind
is that all?
does that mean basically every haunted house story ever is lovecraftian?
Is "the woman in black" lovecraftian?
Is "house on haunted hill"?
If not, is the deciding factor that it's somehow something more than just a ghost?
I couldn't define it because it's the feeling I get from the works of Lovecraft
But this guy explains it pretty well
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watching that now
> the feeling I get from the works of Lovecraft
can you try to articulate them?
True Detective season 1 duh.
Twin Peaks maybe?
Star Trek TNG seasons 1 and 2 are fairly lovecraftian in the first few acts.
>Lovecraftian movies
There a few. The most recent is The Color Out Of Space. Imho it captures quite good the lovecraftian kind of "horror".
Others are cult classics like Reanimator, From Beyond, and Dagon.
For me, it's an eerie vibe that the whole world doesn't feel right. There's something below the surface that was not meant to be seen and there's no turning back now. That certain something is indifferent to your presence and it's not like anything you have ever seen, greater than anything you could have ever imagined.
so literally any ghost horror movie
Yeah, I know there are great Lovecraftian movies, my favorite is John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness
That movie perfectly encapsulates the Lovecraftian vibe for me
Off the top of my head no, maybe the closest I can think of is stranger things but still that's just with the thinnest of connections.
Granted things like Doctor Who, Supernatural, and other long running science fiction/horror shows have all dipped their toes into it at some point
Twin Peaks is one of my favorite shows of all time and now that I'm thinking about it, it does have a certain Lovecraftian quality.
I haven't seen True Detective yet though, I'll probably watch it soon
Not the one you replied. Lovecraftian "horror" is different from what most american movies call horror. In the latter, horror is about loud sounds coupled with sudden camera movements, sadism, killing, and supernatural phenomena from folklore. Lovecraft's horror is produced from the realization that man is an insignificant pebble in an unknowable universe where elder entities do whatever they want. The protagonists of Lovecraft's novels never "win" like in other horror movies, because they can't. At most they survive by losing a part of their sanity.
The monster episodes of xfiles.
Ghostbusters
Goosebumps
Cats
Elaborating on Supernatural the entire season revolving around the leviathans is the main bit even if it mostly falls flat and overkilled with Dick jokes, plus Lovecraft opened a door to Purgatory and seen what he called the old ones which could be literally any monster to exist in that universe.
Also a season 13 episode where a tentacle god from another dimension was summoned then trapped in a girls body and locked up and wants to summon its mate.
>the realization that man is an insignificant pebble in an unknowable universe where elder entities do whatever they want
Is alien lovecraftian? i think so
But then so would be the woman in black or similar ghost stories.
Having watched that youtube video about what makes things lovecraftian:
>red pill on underlying but overwhelming horror of reality
>feeling of insignificance
>degradation of man (i.e. turning into a fishcreature, giving birth to great one children etc.)
I dont know, you could argue that ghost stories fit all three of those.
It would certainly be a redpill to know for sure ghosts /afterlife exists.
It would probably also make you feel pretty insignificant.
And depending on the ghost it might qualify as degradation.
There is another thing he mentions about not being able escape from lovecratian horror (where are you going to run to from yoggsototh?) so maybe that can be made the deciding factor because in ghost stories usually they just leave the house and everything is normal again.
Which is kind of bullshit.
>a tentacle god from another dimension was summoned then trapped in a girls body and locked up and wants to summon its mate
it's not as hot as user makes it sound.
I don't think the realization that ghost exist makes the human existence insignificant. You can boo people after you're dead and that's it.
>Is alien lovecraftian?
No, because you can kill an alien using your skills. You can't kill the things HPL describes.
>ghosts
Ghosts imply afterlife, imply theological discussions, imply divine rules that can be used against them. There is no single god in HPL's universe and most of them don't care about humans.
What about the implications to all religions?
If shadow over innsmouth and similar stories qualify on account of divergent genetics producing that sense of insignificance I'm not convinced that the proof of an afterlife wouldn't produce a similar effect.
It would be interesting to see a lovecraft ghost story, see how one of his protagonists would react to that.
Really if you went through some house on haunted hill type shit would you ever feel safe again ever? Maybe spoopy ghosts dont just exist there but everywhere and we cant see them?etc.
The new Netflix Locke and key. But it’s woke shit, and they scrubbed lovecrafts name from the original
The first season of The Terror is the definition of Lovecraftian. Unsettling, period-piece, about exploration and other 20th century virtues, unknown horrors that befall mortal men, colonialist depiction of other cultures and mysticism.
That looked good, but the second season looked like shit so I never start3d it.
Never saw the second season, it's an anthology though so no need to worry about watching beyond season one.
>*Ahem*
But I feel like it's not the same thing because in these movies the ghosts were humans and can be explained easily.
They can even be banished or exterminated through religious practises.
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Yeah I'm coming around to the not lovecraft side regarding ghost stories.
I mean depending on the ghost story you can argue that some of them are a bit "how could any god let this happen" which leads into the whole uncaring universe/god aspect of it but it think the deciding factor is that ghosts and their implications are ultimately fairly familiar, something that people have been thinking about forever while lovecraft usually tackles something completely unknown.
Still not convinced on alien though, you can kill willbur waitely and various other lovecraft antagonists with human means, and the lovecraft aspect of the alien is as much where it comes from and the realisation that there are spaceelephants (dont @ me prometheusfags) and stuff.
Sorry I meant to reply to you
Alien really does have a strong atmosphere throughout the movie and I love it but the xenomorph is just a new creature and not some kind of entity out of this reality.
>the xenomorph is just a new creature and not some kind of entity out of this reality
Can't agree to that.
The way it looks, the way it reproduces, if you had never seen the movie alien and saw that shit there's a good chance you'd just lose your mind.
Also it isn't just the alien, it's implication of the whole thing, not just isnt mankind not alone and unique in the universe there's all sorts of shit we cant even imagine.
If you don't think alien is lovecraftian, how can you argue that shadow over innsmouth is?
Based thread. Any recommendations for lovecraftian movies and TV shows?
Yeah, putting it that way, I can definitely see what you're saying. Maybe Alien really is a Lovecraftian movie.
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Not the one you replied, but alien isn't lovecraftian because it exists within what you call reasonable. Yeah, aliens can exist. Different biologies can also exist. However, how can something that isn't even corporeal exist? How can something that can't be detected by your senses or by any scientific method exist? That's what HPL is about. Something that logic can't explain but it still exists. In addition, the realization that "humanity fuck yeah!" can't do anything if you look at a greater view of the universe.
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>how can something that isn't even corporeal exist? How can something that can't be detected by your senses or by any scientific method exist?
>That's what HPL is about
There are plenty of hpl stories that have tangible antagonists, shadow over innsmouth, rats in the walls etc.
too bad it goes to shit after like episode 2
True. But usually if it's tangible, it's a low level lackey.
the ironborn in game of thrones are lovecraftian
the alienist?
Well same for the alium.
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
The real horror is knowing that you've uncovered 0,000001% of the real horrible shit that goes on in the universe.
I'll just leave this here...
What's the best way to get into Lovecraftian stories?
By reading them.
when i saw alien i just thought that he looks like just another animal/monster. not really lovecratian as in the shape of it/the way it acts but your point about the whole implication does feels lovecraftian
You could read his stories chronologically (but skip the first ones because they're really badly written) hplovecraft.com
Or if you're only interested in the Cthulhu mythos stories, you can read these
hplovecraft.com
I have to rewatch x files, haven't watched it since it was aired.
I was scared out of my tiny mind when I first saw it but i was like 13 or 14.
I've probably seen it 100 times since then and now I just admire the sleek look of it.
Overexposure literally took all the spookyness out of it.
Which kind of goes with the whole the oldest and strongest fear is fear of the unkown.
Riverdale is lovecraftian.
betty is fish people
i guess it's because of my dad keeps telling me those monsters are just guy in a suit "look they only have two hands and two legs just like human" to keep me shut up, it does makes me sleep better though
Agree, the knowledge of the Great Old Ones seem to have driven the writers mad
My dad threw stones at my window from outside when he knew i was watching it to freak me out more. I miss him.